Item hoarding
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Kessaran
Well-known member
Every ddo session is a naked ddo session.Stop with the kink shaming! I like my naked DDO sessions.
Bobbryan2
Well-known member
I'm amazed that people think posting things like this is a good idea.
There's the presumption of dictating your life experiences to everyone. The moralizing on the adaptiveness of others' behaviors. The arrogance of believing you're in a place to offer advice to everyone.
Really just a trifecta.
I especially love the multiple attempts to reduce your audience to mewling children and putting yourself in the role of the adult telling them to eat their vegetables.
Ying
5000+ hours played
You have too many past lives you haven't used lately, so you need to delete several. Enjoy your Sophie's Choice.
droid327
Hardcore casual soloist
If I'm not using them then delete them all, that's hardly a difficult decision, and kinda illustrates my point...
Eoin-1
Apply the North Wind visual effect...
I'm a recovering hoarder and slowly have been cleaning house. At one point had it in my head to collect every named item like a kid filling out a sticker book. Then one TR cache cleaning and bank mule shuffling, I realized that I don't collect physical objects... so why am I collecting digital objects that can be deleted on a capitalist whim. Leaving me with what? Screenshots?
So I've slowly been feeding gems to get down to 5/15/20/29/cap gear. If I knew for certain legendary resurrection wasn't ever going to be a thing, I would get rid of 29. Also keeping a handful of utility items and bis stuff not at those levels.
Don't need to over think leveling gear with how easy R1 is. Also don't need to farm mythic/reaper gear if you run R10s in a group, maybe they help R10 solo runs? I also don't push raid, so I don't need prefect gearing with perfect curses either.
This has made TR cache clearing and bank mule gear swapping take significantly less time for me, which I value more than stuff.
But that's how I play the game and others... you do you for what makes the game enjoyable.
So I've slowly been feeding gems to get down to 5/15/20/29/cap gear. If I knew for certain legendary resurrection wasn't ever going to be a thing, I would get rid of 29. Also keeping a handful of utility items and bis stuff not at those levels.
Don't need to over think leveling gear with how easy R1 is. Also don't need to farm mythic/reaper gear if you run R10s in a group, maybe they help R10 solo runs? I also don't push raid, so I don't need prefect gearing with perfect curses either.
This has made TR cache clearing and bank mule gear swapping take significantly less time for me, which I value more than stuff.
But that's how I play the game and others... you do you for what makes the game enjoyable.
Epicsoul
Lava Divers Assistant to the Regional Manager
If we're deleting useless things, let's start with these bad takes. You should delete the money in your bank account since it's not being used.
Visengarde
Well-known member
While no one asked for my advice, it doesn't seem to stop people from complaining they don't have enough storage. If someone is complaining about something, it's kinda like asking for some advice/help. And it's just advice, you can evaluate it and ignore it if you want. I'm not preaching or telling folks to do something, just offering advice on the perceived issues being complained about.
I've known folks to clear out hundreds of items, many simple vendor trash stuff they thought they might use one day (and never did). Having gear for L2, L4, L5, L7, L8, L10, L12, L15, L17, L18..... is simply asking for pain. Complaining about self-inflicted pain seems.... well, you should get it by now.
I've known folks to clear out hundreds of items, many simple vendor trash stuff they thought they might use one day (and never did). Having gear for L2, L4, L5, L7, L8, L10, L12, L15, L17, L18..... is simply asking for pain. Complaining about self-inflicted pain seems.... well, you should get it by now.
droid327
Hardcore casual soloist
Speaking of bad takes lol
My money is actually being used, so that's a bad faith argument. 90% of people's hoards will just sit there till the game shuts down or they eventually come to the same conclusion i have and clean it out
You're going to try and find another analogy to prove me wrong, but it won't work either, because I'm not.
If an item isn't bis at its level range for at least one build that's worth playing then it has no practical value. It's Marie Kondo for DDO
I know that's hard for a lot of people who have *emotional* ties to their items, but at this point we have to decide as a community that rational arguments are what should guide the game.
Minako
Well-known member
I have never understood hoarding in game. Having piles and piles of garbage you might, maybe, someday, possably use ten years from now, on an off chance has never made sense to me, but then again I am a minimalist. If I am not using it within a week I don't keep it. I don't care at all if you keep absolutely everything you have ever picked up in a decade, that is your nightmare to manage.
The problem here is both sides. People keeping vast amounts of garbage over multiple bank alts might lag the servers as it has to process their vast amounts of garbage. Maybe the new servers will help that. The game is just old, it does not have the structure do deal with hundreds of thousands of items spread over thousands of bank chars.
The problem from the company side is hoarding is encouraged. 99.97% of the stuff you get is rng vendor trash that is not only useless to whatever you're playing but is useless to everyone. So when a person gets something even remotely decent into the bank it goes in case you need it for a future life. Platinum is useless in this game. So no one sells anything to vendors or the platinum auction house. Anything decent or even useable goes on the astral shard one.
A way to fix the hoarding a bit is perhaps to make the mcguffin of the week, ferro crystals, vistani talismans, etc buyable with platinum. Also allow people to buy more then just weapons of the expansion set with said mcguffins. If you just can't get that piece of armor from farming you can eventually earn enough mcguffins for it and get it that way. This will never happen as people will start selling stuff on the platinum auction house to buy mcguffins and won't reroll on chests causting the devs AS money, but hey it would fix a few things.
The problem here is both sides. People keeping vast amounts of garbage over multiple bank alts might lag the servers as it has to process their vast amounts of garbage. Maybe the new servers will help that. The game is just old, it does not have the structure do deal with hundreds of thousands of items spread over thousands of bank chars.
The problem from the company side is hoarding is encouraged. 99.97% of the stuff you get is rng vendor trash that is not only useless to whatever you're playing but is useless to everyone. So when a person gets something even remotely decent into the bank it goes in case you need it for a future life. Platinum is useless in this game. So no one sells anything to vendors or the platinum auction house. Anything decent or even useable goes on the astral shard one.
A way to fix the hoarding a bit is perhaps to make the mcguffin of the week, ferro crystals, vistani talismans, etc buyable with platinum. Also allow people to buy more then just weapons of the expansion set with said mcguffins. If you just can't get that piece of armor from farming you can eventually earn enough mcguffins for it and get it that way. This will never happen as people will start selling stuff on the platinum auction house to buy mcguffins and won't reroll on chests causting the devs AS money, but hey it would fix a few things.
Fhrek
One Badge of Honor achieved
One year ago I could agree with it, but since SSG (re)introduced (they did it in Sharn as well) rare loot to boost shard reroll on chests and updates to legacy itens, keeping rare to find loot is encouraged, since re-farming them as people suggested is a PITA and time consuming in content we're not engaged.
They literally crippled the organic fator of doing a quest and get the loot the quest has to offer.
Epicsoul
Lava Divers Assistant to the Regional Manager
I mean wow. I was going for humor, but you sucked that right out of this discussion. Fine, you get a serious response:
We’re talking about how people enjoy a video game, not solving a math problem. There’s no absolute “rational,” “correct,” or “provable” way to value virtual items or decide how much stuff someone wants to keep. I find your search for objectivity here completely silly and unserious. This is about personal preference in a hobby that’s supposed to be fun. Demanding everyone approach this like a debate team exercise takes the joy out of the discussion and the game.
The only absolute here is that this is SSG’s problem to fix, not something that should be pinned on players or how they choose to manage their inventories.
Bobbryan2
Well-known member
Lol... You're playing a game, where even if you win, you're losing.
That is stupid. It certainly does support the game play loop and part of that loop is making hard choices about what you need to save.
The max number you can currently have in your bank. Plus maybe a few more you keep on your character at all time that are bound to character. That's the game design pretty Fin clearly. Not sure why you don't get it.
droid327
Hardcore casual soloist
You highlight the core of the problem here, as i think i pointed out elsewhere too
If you want to be a hoarder, then go ahead and hoard. That's not a problem. If collecting and building a museum for yourself is enjoyable, then enjoy it. But just understand that's your personal meta game, not the actual game, and expect to reach limits sometimes.
The problem is when hoarders feel an *entitlement* to hoard, and demand that devs start taking time and effort away from other things to better facilitate hoarding. That's what i think we're seeing now with the transfer issues.
So no, there is no "problem" here that ssg should have to fix. The problem is on the other side of the keyboard, and it's yours to solve, not theirs.
Bobbryan2
Well-known member
Well, that's obviously false... as it's invalidated that your idea of the game design was pretty clearly SUPPLANTED by the addition of a TR cache, now wasn't it.
Bobbryan2
Well-known member
When it's time to TR... not on a random Tuesday, 13 levels and 4 months before I'm ready to TR, Cildar.
Stop being a bad-faith putz.