Just joined VIP. Is it worth it?

[Sarlona Raiding]

In my opinion it boils down entirely to how you value the xp bonus and to a much lesser extent the 6 bonus character slots and daily dice.

The points portion of the package is worth about $36 if you were buying points with the biggest bundle when double bonus points were available.

So you are effectively buying points and paying $64 for the rest of VIP. If you play the game regularly and can afford it, it seems like a simple answer to me, but everyone values things differently.

 

[Col Kurtz]

10% XP by itself is compelling. Doesn't seem like much, but consider this: All past lives require more than one billion XP. VIP nets you 100 million XP.

Skipping the most annoying quest in an expansion to get your saga reward is amazing. For me, that means skipping Forbidden Temple (Isle of Dread) and Time Long Past (Myth Drannor) because they are the longest quests in that content.

If you're a non-Cleric/Wizard/Alchemist caster, being able to swap spells with no cooldown can be useful.

this is enough reasoning with play time backing up the idea + we get the 500 pts a month ( between those points and TR point accumulation, I pretty much never 'have' to buy points for Qol stuff )

 

[Drunken.dx]

Been VIP since 2006 and the rewards are better than ever.

It really has always been the cheapest MMO around. $99 per year? I don't get the ...hate?

it's mostly nitpicking.
partly I agree because expansions aren't covered, but otherwise DDO is quite low spending friendly...

 

[Lacci]

It really has always been the cheapest MMO around. $99 per year? I don't get the ...hate?

Hm, well ... I wouldn´t call it "hate" in my case, but in my opinion, the quality and type of content you get for this 99$ per year is not worth it.
To compare it to a certain other big MMO with subscription model, you get a full year of gameplay for the same price, but without all the little annoyances like paying for extra bank space, character slots, tomes etc.
For me personally, there is really nothing I deem worth it to pay for VIP. Don´t need any of the content that´s included there, most of the classes/races that used to be VIP are free now, opening on elite is not a thing if you TR twice. Sure, skipping that one annoying quest in a saga is nice, but still something I wouldn´t spend money on.
10% more XP, sure it´s nice, but I play without any end goals, so getting there 10% faster isn´t a thing for me as well.
Now, if the overall quality of the game was just up to par, I would probably be willing to at least consider VIP. But it´s not, so I won´t.

 

[Roper]

Hm, well ... I wouldn´t call it "hate" in my case, but in my opinion, the quality and type of content you get for this 99$ per year is not worth it.
To compare it to a certain other big MMO with subscription model, you get a full year of gameplay for the same price, but without all the little annoyances like paying for extra bank space, character slots, tomes etc.
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Which "certain" one? I mean.. a couple of things..

You didn't point out supposed perks there, for one. Just poo-pooed here for two. Also funny is how some people dance around without saying anything.

...althought I did run into an "intersting situation" here when I tried to bank PLAT after becoming VIP. The bank-bar is so low it's infuriating.

 

[Lacci]

Which "certain" one? I mean.. a couple of things..

You didn't point out supposed perks there, for one. Just poo-pooed here for two. Also funny is how some people dance around without saying anything.

Not sure if it was against the forum rules or something to compare DDO to other games, but anyway. Talking about World of Warcraft.

What perks do you mean ?
I pointed out 6 (content=adventure packs, VIP classes, VIP races, elite opening, saga skipping, XP bonus) and gave my opinion on these.

My point was that a year of WoW costs as much as a year of VIP in DDO, but with WoW, you get a much higher quality product, and even with VIP, you still have to spend on top for certain other perks.

 

[Shear-buckler]

Been VIP since 2006 and the rewards are better than ever.

It really has always been the cheapest MMO around. $99 per year? I don't get the ...hate?

VIP is not better than ever. VIP, or subscription, used to give you full access to the game. Now it only grants minor benefits.

DDO is one of the most expensive MMOs, as the upfront cost is massive. They will also try everything they can do nickle-and-dime you along the way.

 

[Hafeal]

VIP is well worth it to me, especially with 4 plan options, all cost effective. The one month plan @ $14. 99 is, as I recall, is actually the same price than the monthly sub rate it was in 2006, despite 20 years inflation. If you plan to stick, I highly recommend the 12 month sub (which I do) and you are playing for $8.33 / mo, AND you get a monthly reward each consecutive month you are ViP and I find value / enjoyment in most of them.

Point is, there are many, many benefits to VIP and everyone ranks the value of those benefits differently but I think the prior posts emphasize what makes different ones good for different players. You will need to find what you like best, even if you focus on 1 character.

For me? $8.33 is 1 trip to Starbucks and provides way more entertainment all year, with my friends.

Consider, those Bruno Mars tickets for his new tour will likely be going at an amount which will cost you at least 5 years of playing DDO, for a one night concert. Or if you bucked up for Taylor Swift, it was likely the equal of 10 years DDO unless you were super lucky.

 

[Ruark]

I much prefer the premium model to a subscription. I buy the content I want and then I play whenever I want without worrying about wasting money because I didn't play that much on a particular month.

 

[Roper]

VIP is not better than ever. VIP, or subscription, used to give you full access to the game. Now it only grants minor benefits.

DDO is one of the most expensive MMOs, as the upfront cost is massive. They will also try everything they can do nickle-and-dime you along the way.

The cost "up front" is NOT "massive." I guess we can "beg to differ?" It's 99USD. Yeah, if you don't have the means, 99 is a chunk but all other MMO charge more. It's what I don't play Elder Scrolls and Fallout. What other game charges 99USD to play, with benefits, for that YEAR? What other game has FREE-TO-PLAY?

The cost of FOMO can be. But SSG still gives freee content to VIP. Granted, there are differences with my OG VIP and the new, but the 500DDO points per month, and shared bank, alone, are worth it for me.

This is the cheapest game around: USD99 PER ANUM (year) It's why I have multiple VIP accounts.

edit: @Hafeal I remember when USD50 was a lot for a concert. No way I'm paying USD200.

 

[Shear-buckler]

The cost "up front" is NOT "massive." I guess we can "beg to differ?" It's 99USD. Yeah, if you don't have the means, 99 is a chunk but all other MMO charge more. It's what I don't play Elder Scrolls and Fallout. What other game charges 99USD to play, with benefits, for that YEAR? What other game has FREE-TO-PLAY?

The cost of FOMO can be. But SSG still gives freee content to VIP. Granted, there are differences with my OG VIP and the new, but the 500DDO points per month, and shared bank, alone, are worth it for me.

This is the cheapest game around: USD99 PER ANUM (year) It's why I have multiple VIP accounts.

edit: @Hafeal I remember when USD50 was a lot for a concert. No way I'm paying USD200.

99USD still leaves you without access to the relevant content. You still have to buy expansions. And you will want to spend a bunch on DP to buy some bare necessities from the store. It is a very expensive game.

 

[Lacci]

But SSG still gives freee content to VIP.

You pay for it, 99$ per year at least. So it´s not "free content".

 

[Hafeal]

99USD still leaves you without access to the relevant content. You still have to buy expansions. And you will want to spend a bunch on DP to buy some bare necessities from the store. It is a very expensive game.

If you factor in your 500 DDO points and the expansions eventually being available for points and on sale, fairly often, it isn't "very" expensive, imo.

It simply requires patience and budgeting if you are tight on finances. If you want to jump in early - in any game - you are going to pay. DDO is certainly in the same price point as other games in that regard, not worse.

 

[GrizzlyOso]

VIP is well worth it to me, especially with 4 plan options, all cost effective. The one month plan @ $14. 99 is, as I recall, is actually the same price than the monthly sub rate it was in 2006, despite 20 years inflation. If you plan to stick, I highly recommend the 12 month sub (which I do) and you are playing for $8.33 / mo, AND you get a monthly reward each consecutive month you are ViP and I find value / enjoyment in most of them.

Point is, there are many, many benefits to VIP and everyone ranks the value of those benefits differently but I think the prior posts emphasize what makes different ones good for different players. You will need to find what you like best, even if you focus on 1 character.

For me? $8.33 is 1 trip to Starbucks and provides way more entertainment all year, with my friends.

Consider, those Bruno Mars tickets for his new tour will likely be going at an amount which will cost you at least 5 years of playing DDO, for a one night concert. Or if you bucked up for Taylor Swift, it was likely the equal of 10 years DDO unless you were super lucky.

Of course you could just pay $0 for Ddo and pay $3.50 for black coffee at Starbucks instead of whatever garbage you are drinking.

** yes I know Starbucks coffee sucks and is burnt but if you are getting something there, don’t buy an $8 sugar filled nightmare

 

[Shear-buckler]

If you factor in your 500 DDO points and the expansions eventually being available for points and on sale, fairly often, it isn't "very" expensive, imo.

It simply requires patience and budgeting if you are tight on finances. If you want to jump in early - in any game - you are going to pay. DDO is certainly in the same price point as other games in that regard, not worse.

Other games offer previous expansions for free when you buy the latest expansion. The upfront cost for DDO, unless you are willing to wait for years to play the relevant content, is much worse than other games. Playing decade old expansions is not to "jump in early".

To get to the same level as you would be at in other games you will have to:
Pay $100 to get "all content". Then pay $200 to actually get all content. Pay another $100 for the nickle-and-dime game design.

 

[Guntango]

VIP is great. I'd pay for a VIP+ to access all content if they ever brought that back.

 

[Sehenry033]

I do ViP and I am happy with it.

Many modern MMO's make you buy new expansions, so not sure why people say the sub should include all new content. ESO makes you buy new content until the next new content drops and then it becomes part of the sub. ESo does let you buy in game bags though easy, although infinite crafting is limited to their version of ViP.

I think WoW makes you buy new content also, until next new content drops and it becomes part of the sub if I remember right, it's been awhile.

I don't buy much with DDO points so I am happy to spend 14.99 a month for unlimited play time for that month. Hell, a single movie ticket is what, $20 now? Not even counting food/drinks which I can do at home super cheap whie playing DDO.

I think people are extremely dramatic on ViP pricing and DDO store pricing. You don't need much from the store, it really comes down to convenience.

 

[Minako]

It is not that we are dramatic it is we find no value in it. Your point on how when new content drops all the old content becomes part of the sub is our main problem. If I had never bought wow at all and came in now I would have up to dragonflight just for the base game price. That is what a lot of us are saying. If I buy the newest Ravenloft expansion I still have to buy ALL the old expansions at full price. They do go on sale yes, but I shouldn't have to pay extra for them at all. I shouldn't have to pay a grand to get started. You are right an ESO sub gives you access to ALL DLC save the very newest chapter, that is our point. Your sub in almost every other mmo gives you access to everything but the newest thing.

 

[Unk]

But the play in all other games are different. In most game it is all about the end game and all that content you get with your sub is not worth as much. It is all about the new content. In DDO it is about TRing and level 3 quest are still just as important as level 34 quests.

Between VIP points and the DDO points you earn through questing by the time you get to really know the game to play high reaper you could buy all the content expansions with ddo points.

Besides expansions there is really nothing you need in the DDO store if you are VIP.

 

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