Kali's Alchemist Vile Chemist HYBRID Thrower/CC+ Insta-kill Caster build

[Ostwind-Cannith]

I love your formatting in presenting this build. well done - it's very easy to follow. also I've got a 12th level alchemist I'm really struggling with so I might try to work the other classes in just to get through it. cheers.

 

[Kalibano]

I love your formatting in presenting this build. well done - it's very easy to follow. also I've got a 12th level alchemist I'm really struggling with so I might try to work the other classes in just to get through it. cheers.

Hey @Ostwind-Cannith Thanks for the compliments about the layout of the build
Hope multiclassing works for you, it's made the build a lot nicer.

I got another Alchemist build in the works, but melee/caster hybrid. In the event you are doing a melee build, you could consider adding 1 Dark Hunter and 1 Monk level. Dark hunter for traps mostly, perhaps a little extra sneak attack die. Monk is for the ocean stance. You'd need to invest 3 feats into the 'Forms' features, but it really helps boost defences.

Hope the comments were helpful

 

[Kalibano]

This character has been re-specced to a melee/hybrid version of this build.

There were no major flaws with the build per se, but its main abilities (listed below) have far stronger synergy with the melee version, as they all require melee range:
> Mass Frog
> Flash Freeze
> Mass Flesh to Gold
> Wave of Poison
> Fan of Knives

Sure, it was quite possible to throw Glue Bombs from afar, then close the distance and use those abilities, but I found myself in melee range (to take full advantage of those abilities) far more often than I would have liked for a ranged character.

The build will stay in my repository, for anyone who wants to give it a go, but might not be updated as readily as the others, as this is no longer being actively played by one of my alts.

 

[Kalibano]

As several people have requested/suggested this (particularly in Discord), I am working towards sharing the DDOBuilder files for all my builds, since I use that program to do all my planning. Hopefully they will be valuable for using in conjunction with their respective forum threads.

The main thread for this build has been updated to include this, under the main title:
7. Kali's Alchemist Vile Chemist Thrower/ CC+Insta-kill Caster hybrid build
DDOBuilder file for this build. You can find and download Maetrim's DDOBuilder here.

Do let me know is anyone has issues downloading the file from Goggle Drive (fingers crossed I got all the settings right!)

Very hopeful this will be a useful addition to my threads: thanks to everyone who suggested this.

N.B.
I arrange my DDOBuilder screen as per the image below (not this build in the image), as it helps me view the key aspects of my builds far more easily than opening and closing a bunch of windows. Just thought I'd share my experience, in case its useful:

Maetrim's builder is really amazing, I highly recommend it!

 

[Kalibano]

The main post has been edited to include buttons to click and expand info.
I used the spoiler tool, as it provided the effect I desired: there are no spoilers, though

The aim was to reduce potential visual overload, as well as the overall length of the main post. This creates potential to include more breakdowns.

I'd be keen to hear feedback from anyone who frequently visits my threads: do you prefer this layout?
I am working slowly towards doing the same for all other builds: hope this enhances everyone's experience when visiting and exploring!

 

[Scrag]

The main post has been edited to include buttons to click and expand info.
I used the spoiler tool, as it provided the effect I desired: there are no spoilers, though

The aim was to reduce potential visual overload, as well as the overall length of the main post. This creates potential to include more breakdowns.

I'd be keen to hear feedback from anyone who frequently visits my threads: do you prefer this layout?
I am working slowly towards doing the same for all other builds: hope this enhances everyone's experience when visiting and exploring!

The new(ish) format with the buttons is fantastic. Thank you for the upgrade!

 

[Kalibano]

Heroic enhancements updated to reflect the recent changes to the Vile Chemist tree.
Heroic tree image + DDOBuilder file also updated.

More stat breakdowns were added.

Enjoy!

 

[Kalibano]

For hybrid builds like this, I strongly recommend NOT swapping out any investment (e.g. feats, enhancements, etc.) made to increase spell DCs. To expound on my reasoning, I added more specific details in an earlier post in this thread about some of the main differences between pure casters and hybrids ref spell DCs.

Hope this is useful to anyone using this build

 

[Kalibano]

Doubleshot section updated to include:

> breakdown of the total sustainable 100% of the time (194%)​

> breakdown of the buffable total (424%)​

Weapon critical profile section also updated to include:

> breakdowns of the threat range and multiplier​

> average additional base damage %​

- for weapon crit profile (after feats/compentence bonuses applied)​

- for crit profile boosts (e.g. on 19-20 rolls)​

Hope this extra info is helpful.