Kali's Dark Hunter Tempest TWF DEX Melee DPS build

Eltronin

Kobolds don't matter. *Except in Crystal Cove.
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Where are the gloves from? Are those crafted or random drop? I tried looking for them and can't find them.
TIA
 

Kalibano

Build Designer. Having fun since 2006!
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Where are the gloves from? Are those crafted or random drop? I tried looking for them and can't find them.
TIA
They are from Cannith crafting.
When you get a lot of named items with Set bonus slots, cannith crafting becomes less useful in general, except when it comes to some swap items like this.
 

1024kid

Member
Hey Kali, I'm coming up close to TRing my current build and have been trying to figure out something for my next run through. My current build uses longswords and monk with WSS. Im really enjoying my build but it has no trapping which I really miss. I've been trying to hash out something new that uses longswords and incorporates DH so that I can still be able to trap, pick locks, etc. But having trouble finding one that checks off all the boxes. If I went pure DH, I'd assume that STR would probably be the better choice if I stuck with using longswords since they wouldn't get any benefits from DEX to hit. Would staying pure DH be the best choice or could you suggest a better split that might work better? I have another possible build in mind but just thought I'd see what else might be suggested, im sure my choices here aren't optimal but I mostly play solo and really like having the ability to get traps. The longsword part is just because a have a pile already and I'd just rather not farm out a bunch more gear. Anyway if you have any thoughts I'd love to hear them. Thanks.
 

unbongwah

Well-known member
If I went pure DH, I'd assume that STR would probably be the better choice if I stuck with using longswords since they wouldn't get any benefits from DEX to hit.
Check out the Update 76 changes to the Tempest tree, the cores now give DEX to hit and damage with any 1H melee weapons while dual wielding, which opens up all the Knights Training weapons.
 

1024kid

Member
Nice, that opens up a lot more options. Another question concerns the enhancements. I'm not sure what I have for a Wisdom tome, I know I at least have a +2 but would increasing your base Wisdom score and maybe taking Falconry as opposed to DH and Harper be a viable option? I dont remember if there is a Wisdom trace in Falconry or if its just to hit and damage. I know I've read a lot comments that have the DH tree as being a bit lame, wasn't sure if a change to your starting stats and enhancements might net any benefit. My character is also a 36 point build as well which offers 2 more build points to start. Thanks again for the reply.
 

unbongwah

Well-known member
I dont remember if there is a Wisdom trace in Falconry or if its just to hit and damage.
There is (Deadly Instinct), but it's Tier-4, making it the most expensive Battle Trance to unlock. I only use it for WIS-based builds which don't already get a WIS trance, such as Axel's battlecleric. On a melee ranger, though, you can't really afford it, since the crit range and multiplier bonuses are in different trees (DWS and Tempest). So if you're spending e.g. 41 Tempest (capstone) / 21 DWS (+1 crit range), that only leaves 18-20 APs for Falconry; even with a +2 Universal AP tome, that's still not enough for Deadly Instinct without sacrificing DPS from DWS or Tempest instead.

If you wanted a WIS-based ranger, splashing monk 3 for Henshin (or Dragon Disciple) WIS to hit / dmg / Trance is a lot cheaper (13 APs), but would cost you the last two Tempest cores.
I know I've read a lot comments that have the DH tree as being a bit lame, wasn't sure if a change to your starting stats and enhancements might net any benefit.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, Dark Hunter tree is worse than Tempest for dual-wielding and worse than Deepwood Stalker (or Horizon Walker) for archery. So there's not much incentive to go heavy into DH tree on a dual-wielder, apart from Bleed the Weak and maybe some extra sneak attack or Imbue dice.

My solution(?) was to go for THF build with 41 Dark Hunter / 21 DWS - you don't need any points in Tempest if you're not dual-wielding! - though it's definitely a "square peg into round hole" approach. It's not bad, but it's way behind the current meta. Dark Hunter 15 / Dragonlord 5 would make it stronger, but only because DLord makes everything stronger, not because it's a particularly good combo.
 

1024kid

Member
Yeah my current build uses the DL tree and its a blast. The crowd control from Dragon Roar helps big time. Was hoping to somehow incorporate trapping which had me leaning towards using DH. I suppose rogue could work too but ranger gets you so many free feats and tempest is awesome for TWF.
 

Sudimar

New member
Hi Kali! Thank you for posting such a detailed build. I was wondering, if I were to choose Tabaxi instead.. would it be better to go for the Evasion perk in the Tabaxi tree? This would take away from the Dark Hunter tree, too.

Would the benefit of Evasion outweigh it?
 
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