Lamannia Preview: Quest - Toil and Trouble

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erethizon1

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Sophie The Cat Burglar said:
Level 28???

This is what will happen: Players will try to run this quest Epic Elite or Reaper Mode at level, at which point their characters are level 30. Level 30 characters cannot earn experience from a level 28 quest.

Is this not a very serious problem?
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While I don't personally think we need more epic quests (i.e. those between levels 20 and 29) there have been many requests for more of them. Running quests for no experience because there are way too many quests is just part of the game. This won't be a quest people focus on at legendary levels but otherwise it will be fine. It's a quest to get you from 20 to 30. I usually sit at level 29 for a while so I can get RXP from quests that are below level 30.
 
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Shear-buckler

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erethizon1 said:
Running quests for no experience because there are way too many quests is just part of the game.
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no, for the vast majority of players that is not a part of the game. Very few players autistically confine themselves to run every single quest every life for no meaningful reason. You may in fact be the only one.
 
droid327

droid327

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Yeah banking at 18 to maximize available quests is a fairly ubiquitous and accepted practice in heroic. If it's ok there, then banking at 29 seems to be fairly analogous now that we have a third tier beyond that. Especially since that represents a big spike in gear potential, when you can equip Sharn and RL legendary stuff, and handle L30 content easier
 
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erethizon1

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Shear-buckler said:
no, for the vast majority of players that is not a part of the game. Very few players autistically confine themselves to run every single quest every life for no meaningful reason. You may in fact be the only one.
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The point is, no matter what level they add the quest the experience is useless. We have way too many quests at every level of the game. All more quests do is add variety. While I personally support making all new quests heroic/legendary (as opposed to heroic/epic) since eventually we will have legendary reincarnation and the legendary quests will actually have a point, for now, there is so much experience available at every level that it makes no different what level any quest is.

I know you seem to take a personal affront to the way I play the game and enjoy following me around on the forums nagging me for it, but it doesn't change the fact that we are not playing 2010 DDO where all experience is super valuable and you have to repeat quests to get a 3rd life TR because the game was designed with a number of quests appropriate for a first life and they added TR before they were prepared for the extra experience requirements. Now new quests are useful from a fun perspective, but the experience really doesn't matter since we have way more than we need already.
 
Geezer

Geezer

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I dont understand level 5 and 28 for these quests. Theres a ton of level 5 stuff and as someone stated above, if youre level 30 you dont get xp for a level 28 quest. How about making them something like a level 10 and mid 20's (23-26)?
 
Oliphant

Oliphant

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erethizon1 said:
The point is, no matter what level they add the quest the experience is useless. We have way too many quests at every level of the game. All more quests do is add variety. While I personally support making all new quests heroic/legendary (as opposed to heroic/epic) since eventually we will have legendary reincarnation and the legendary quests will actually have a point, for now, there is so much experience available at every level that it makes no different what level any quest is.

I know you seem to take a personal affront to the way I play the game and enjoy following me around on the forums nagging me for it, but it doesn't change the fact that we are not playing 2010 DDO where all experience is super valuable and you have to repeat quests to get a 3rd life TR because the game was designed with a number of quests appropriate for a first life and they added TR before they were prepared for the extra experience requirements. Now new quests are useful from a fun perspective, but the experience really doesn't matter since we have way more than we need already.
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Agree we're not xp constrained anymore so no particular quests are needed to level but it's still relevant if a quest does not provide XP in some contexts. Maybe they should give Legendary xp if you conform to the usual leveling meta, which for epics is within 4 levels over base quest level. For example, a level 28 quest could be folded into providing XP for levels 30-32 with different (new) rules.
 
Solarpower

Solarpower

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Shear-buckler said:
no, for the vast majority of players that is not a part of the game. Very few players autistically confine themselves to run every single quest every life for no meaningful reason. You may in fact be the only one.
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Your so called "vast majority" are NOT VIPs. And have to run every quest to squeeze those DDO Points out of Favor. 😏
 
Mornyngstar

Mornyngstar

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Oliphant said:
Agree we're not xp constrained anymore so no particular quests are needed to level but it's still relevant if a quest does not provide XP in some contexts. Maybe they should give Legendary xp if you conform to the usual leveling meta, which for epics is within 4 levels over base quest level. For example, a level 28 quest could be folded into providing XP for levels 30-32 with different (new) rules.
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I have seen people playing at 2 levels below base level of quest to help them level to the lv 30 quests for reaper xp runs. You do not have to run quests at base +2.
 
Terranigma

Terranigma

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Decent short quest. Good use of the fog to make misty woods. Nice to be able to smash flowers (as obstacles).

As a Level 5 quest, this will be overshadowed by Feywild quests, but it is still a decent choice to run for EXP and getting some low level solar/lunar augments.

As a Level 28 quest, has high EXP for time yields (~27000 EXP/minute) to run in Epic. Glad to see it drops Epic solar/lunar augments and that it appears the Minimum Level of 20 works correctly.
 
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Oliphant

Oliphant

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Mornyngstar said:
I have seen people playing at 2 levels below base level of quest to help them level to the lv 30 quests for reaper xp runs. You do not have to run quests at base +2.
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We agree, you can do what you want. My point stands. Nitpick: It's base +4.
 
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