Lamannia Update 66 Preview 2 - Epic Destiny Refresh

DBZ

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Fatesinger might be great but there still aren't any many sonic sorcs at cap ice is just stronger
 

PraetorPlato

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Fatesinger might be great but there still aren't any many sonic sorcs at cap ice is just stronger
The fate singer comment was narrowly about the Hunt's End strike, which I'd be very surprised to hear ice sorcs enjoyed using before the patch. Ice sorcs should probably consider magus strike.
 

Fisto Mk I

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We must be playing different games

Seems so, yea.

If we are talking about single target boss DPS or red named reapers it literally doesn't matter.

Oh, seriously? Cool story, bro... cool story...

prepared group of players

Prepared group, yea? Prepared group have trash cleanser SS/IK PM who do it mush better and faster than you new ranged with lame AoE. 🤣

Single real purpose have ranged in such group - massive single target boss/doom DPS. And now it seems much much weaker and useless, at least clearly not so useful as before.
 

karthunk

Dooooooom
<veiled insults>

Use the entire quote next time:

If we are talking about single target boss DPS or red named reapers it literally doesn't matter. There are so many stacking debuffs that are applied by a prepared group of players that everything, including raid bosses on reaper, melt like butter.

Or better yet, just don't reply to me anymore.
 

Lazuli

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Well, yes, I'm suggesting using fatesinger strike on your ranged toons, not on your wizard! I'm not saying that it won't result in a net-DPS loss from hunt's end, but fate singer strike is much stronger on lam.
Not only is the loss of dps the strike, it would also be the loss of the benefits that the ED gives me that I would have to abandon. I don't like Fatersinger for ranged, and I like my current configuration a lot.

Honestly, I'm tired of the devs trying to force us to play the way they want.
 

Mystra

Goddess of Magic
Not only is the loss of dps the strike, it would also be the loss of the benefits that the ED gives me that I would have to abandon. I don't like Fatersinger for ranged, and I like my current configuration a lot.

Honestly, I'm tired of the devs trying to force us to play the way they want.
Devs are doing what they believe is best for the game. They kinda have a slightly higher level of incentive than most players since it's their literal paychecks on the line.
 

Oliphant

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Not only is the loss of dps the strike, it would also be the loss of the benefits that the ED gives me that I would have to abandon. I don't like Fatesinger for ranged, and I like my current configuration a lot.

Honestly, I'm tired of the devs trying to force us to play the way they want.
Agree, not only in terms of forcing playstyles but also just messin with Sasquatch making me do a bunch of work on build stuff when I'm not the mood for messing with settled build stuff. Don't like the game being periodically made into a job, but having to pay for a bunch of kits and whatnot instead of getting paid. Especially don't like anticipating a dejected server every time this happens. This kind of disruption makes people turn inward, not helpful for the PUG scene. Ultimately my bottom line is if everyone else is happy and playing I'm fine, but I know how this goes over and over.

In terms of personal preferences, I actually love Fatesinger on bow for the threat reduction but usually go Shiradi, SD and LD to max out the DPS. Lately I've been using Epic Purifying Quiver over Epic Alacrity, skipping FS and suffering from lower threat reduction than I'm used to. Starting to really look forward to threat reduction in Shiradi. I'll be tempted to go Shiradi, SD, FS, use the FS epic strike, nab 100% threat reduction.

Still feel like they are blowing it completely eliminating the HE boost playstyle. Even a much smaller boost would still feel good in terms of having that thing that is resistant to their whiffy game engine vis a vis ranged shots landing (perhaps subjectively).
 

Fisto Mk I

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Next time, playing the victim card, try to be more creative and act more carefully, without violating the current rules of the forum and without attributing to me in a direct quote words that do not belong to me. It's punishable.;)

Use the entire quote next time:
If we are talking about single target boss DPS or red named reapers it literally doesn't matter. There are so many stacking debuffs that are applied by a prepared group of players that everything, including raid bosses on reaper, melt like butter.

Mmm, why? What does the full quote add to what I used in the citation? I just removed the empty, meaningless additions from your quote, highlighting the point. ;)

You say, literally, that single target boss DPS or red named reapers is not important, and it is obvious to anyone who plays DDO for more than a day that this is complete nonsense. Next, you try to justify this by the fact that the prepared group, using debuffs, does enough damage without it. Group. The group cleans the trash, the group apply debuffs, the group inflicts damage... What are you doing? Pike and just leech rXp and loot?

What do you do if there is no prepared group and you play solo? Or do you come to write deliberate nonsense at the forum at this time? 🤣

Or better yet, just don't reply to me anymore.
Yea, seriously? And why? Is it not because you cannot provide valid arguments and conduct a civilized conversation and, aware of this fact, experience frustration? But this is exclusively your choice and your difficulties! 🤣
This is an open forum, guy, and I discuss where and with whom I consider it necessary and useful! ;)
 

karthunk

Dooooooom
If you have an issue with his responses, you can ignore the member, too. I have done it for Elminster and recommend ignoring players that you don't want to contribute to.
I already did, he has responded to me before with a passive, aggressive attitude and it's just not worth my time. I appreciate the advise.
 

VinoeWhines

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If Shadow Dancer's Wand and Scroll mastery is going to stay in this tree, at least make it stack with it's Heroic Lvl 2 Feat counterpart:


Tier Two[edit]​

Requires Level 2, 5 APs spent in tree

Icon Enhancement Wand and Scroll Mastery.png Wand and Scroll Mastery: +25%/+50%/+75% damage and healing of your wands, scrolls, and other items that cast spells(Especially item clickes). Adds +1/+2/+3 to the save DC's of your offensive wands. Taking Wand and Scroll Mastery in one enhancement tree will block its availability in other enhancement trees.

Shadow Dancer still has no:
CC ( -Shadow Manipulation)
Stealth Executioner type strike
AOE kill attack (oh ya, Weird but not)
No Pass through enemies
 

VinoeWhines

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Meld Into Darkness shouldn't be tied to an Epic Strike but a strategic option as in From the Shadows, and should add Pass Through Enemies as you Dissolve in a puff of Smoke.
Even Tier adding a Stun or Sap effect as you pass through enemies and Steal their Shadows in Disbelief.
 
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