Legendary Reincarnation could actually be pretty chill

[Tyrande]

Running out of things to do, OP? Why not have a personal quest to have a character wear all Demogorgon Catalyst upgraded items as a challenge?

No, don't bog the rest of us who are tired of reincarnations mechanics to do another one. We're running out of bank space, and the servers are slow as it is.

 

[Kyloz]

Not opposed to it at all and wouldnt even mind if they started doing it now, but they would need to triple the amount of XP legendary quests give before they even think about adding it.

 

[Geezer]

I have little doubt that Legendary will happen. Its the easiest thing they could do to keep us busy at cap (if there is such a thing as level cap then). And I agree, the latest expansions dont have enough xp per quest, not when you need over 2 mil to the next level.

 

[Oliphant]

Feel like with rare loot, they sailed the ship where folks ever catch up anyway. They pretty much crystalized the top with the rare loot. If they ever do implement LR, they could kill the current status quo where we can bank our legendary levels, or they could do as I suggest and not kill our ability to bank if we want to. I'm not advocating per se for LTRs. My main point is they can perfectly implement a system that does not affect anyone that does not want to participate and if they screw up our ability to bank legendary levels, it will be an unforced error on their part.

 

[Chacka]

Ostensibly it would just be 3 in total? I'm kinda on the fence about it. If it's just same old TRs, what more can they give us? More destiny points? I'd rather we got free universal points per reincarnation - 3 or 4 per LTR. So you can always use them for your toon.

Doubt that would happen, so maybe a 4th ED tree on your first one? It'll be over 110 points with full fate & destiny tomes, level 40, and all EPLs (especially if SSG remembers to add a Warlock ED) which is probably overkill for 3 trees.

I'd be loathe to recommend a different system. We have enhancements, reaper, EDs, our own feats, "soft" progression/power systems like Dark Gift and Sentience - would be annoying to have a Legendary/Champion Levels sort of thing with yet more abilities to pick through.

Actually, yeah, that's what is gonna happen. It'll be a new tree and each LTR gives you a single point and you need 75 points in total to take the final core and T5.

I'm optimistic they'll give us something fun and special for a legendary past life. I'm just worried I'll have to store tons of items to cover levels 30–40 – on top of the storage problems we already have.

 

[Chacka]

Feel like with rare loot, they sailed the ship where folks ever catch up anyway. They pretty much crystalized the top with the rare loot. If they ever do implement LTR, they could kill the current status quo where we can bank our legendary levels, or they could do as I suggest and not kill our ability to bank if we want to. I'm not advocating per se for LTRs. My main point is they can perfectly implement a system that does not affect anyone that does not want to participate and if they screw up our ability to bank legendary levels, it will be an unforced error on their part.

I doubt the legendary reincarnation will be any kind of true reincarnation – most likely it'll just be a reset back to level 30 and then levelling up again to 38 or 40.

 

[Oliphant]

Yeah, I would think it would be similar to Epic Reincarnation but would set you back to 30. I'm just saying they could make it totally optional and not make everyone reset their legendary levels unless they actually do an LR.

 

[Chacka]

Yeah, I would think it would be similar to Epic Reincarnation but would set you back to 30. I'm just saying they could make it totally optional and not make everyone reset their legendary levels unless they actually do an LTR.

I just wonder what the T in your "LTR" stands for, because I believe it can't be "True". A True Reincarnation means you can choose a new class, race and gender; you lose all your favor and can earn it again, including the rewards; all first-time bonuses reset; all items in your inventory – and for most players from the character bank as well – move into the reincarnation cache, and so on. None of that happens with an ER (Epic Reincarnation), which is exactly why there's no T for "True" in it. And I'd assume a legendary reincarnation will work similarly to an ER.

Of course it's possible that you'd lose all your experience with a legendary reincarnation – heroic, epic and legendary alike – and would have to get all of it back before you could do your next one, and that you could choose your race, class, gender etc. again. Then you could call it an LTR. But I doubt that's what will happen.

 

[somenewnoob]

The Acronym Police have arrived mam.

 

[Oliphant]

Can see your point, more chance of confusing it with a full wipe style reincarnation, which I hope they do not do. In some ways, it rings true as redoing 10 of those legendary levels is going to put you through it like a TR. I would probably make a level 30 gear setup and do endgame stuff until it gets boring and do ER and TR and then repeat and level up legendaries in multiple passes, not stress it.

 

[Chacka]

The Acronym Police have arrived mam.

Sure, you can have the opinion that this is nitpicky, and I have no problem with spelling or grammar mistakes – not to mention that I'm personally bad at both. But if you use the wrong acronym, it actually carries the wrong meaning, and that's a problem in my opinion, because it leads to confusion.

And by the way, you'd be right to object if I told you that ER, TR, LR etc. aren't acronyms but "initialisms" – because I'd know perfectly well what you meant, so it would be wrong of me to make use of that small technicality.

 

[Lotoc]

Legendary reincarnations are kind of going to be needed to keep early legendary content relevant as the level cap reaches 40, the big thing in regard to legendary exp however is we currently lack a Legendary Tome of Learning and legendary quest base EXP isn't any higher than epic quest base EXP has been, so those quests without the tome modifier are winding up less exp than comparable quests from lower levels.

 

[Oliphant]

For my completionistesque toon, will be lamer doing the multi-pass approach but everything about progress quest sucks more for reaper maxed completionist, this is the crumble.

 

[f1b041b3]

I kind of think Legendary TR should be a way to provide a catch up mechanism. Also giving heroic and epic past lives.

I'd cash in my legendary experience for an epl. I'd also be interested even if all legendary reincarnation did was allow character respecs and reset first time xp bonuses. Add me into the camp of those not wanting a new category of past lives, though.

 

[Mnemor]

No more reincarnation systems, please.

And please make the next grind system alt-friendly. More account-bound stuff; we already have too much per character.

 

[Darksteel]

/not signed

We need a new endgame system, not the same treadmill. I love Diablo 4's Tower/Pit system where you can see how you/your character performs at top levels and compare to other players, something like that would be super cool. Or even a arena (like we had BG2 expansion) battling waves of mobs and see how many waves you can go through. Loads of ideas are there to pick from other games.

 

[songswrath]

9 years after reaper was implemented and supposedly majority of players dont have one toon reaper capped. Wow I am shocked......

Legendary reincarnation won't be bad.

there a lot of ppl with still just 50-60 points. there is way more weekend warriors. than end game players in this game

Alts? You say "alts"? What's that word mean? It seems to me that I once remembered this, but forgot it as unnecessary. The meaning of this word has long rusted and crumbled to dust... 8)

alts them trains of toons that all have near the same name ? is that them lol.
For real last thing we need is another hamster wheel. This will drive even more newer players away. if it so is deemed needed. just let it be a one time thing not more stacking past lifes. We do not need any more power creep