Leveling XP is an absolute mess in epics

Sarlona Raiding

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This doesn't match my experience. Epic leveling is easy and fast and you don't need to repeat anything to level up.

With no xp bonus other than ship buffs you can easily level 20 to 30 with just first time bonus for each quest and slayers/explorers you get on the way to quests.

With challenges and joining slayer groups with no xp potions and slayer pots you can easily get 2 epic lifes per life. And running legendary slayers with a high epic character is no problem and is another easy source of xp.
 

Vertigo

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This doesn't match my experience. Epic leveling is easy and fast and you don't need to repeat anything to level up.

With no xp bonus other than ship buffs you can easily level 20 to 30 with just first time bonus for each quest and slayers/explorers you get on the way to quests.

With challenges and joining slayer groups with no xp potions and slayer pots you can easily get 2 epic lifes per life. And running legendary slayers with a high epic character is no problem and is another easy source of xp.
I think OP isn´t running it like you or me or most people tbh... I never run with pots in epics, and once done with ES-sagas, some token quests, and sometimes one of the slayer areas I´ll hit max. I´ll run sagas for cards and sell em on AH for shards that translates into gold rolls and greater/major slayer pots. once u hit 30 or 34, just TR back to 20 and 1 if your toon is low lifer and needs them tasty past lifes. Epic XP is just fine. Not including RXP, Sagas and slayer areas is wild when R1 is default setting for 98% of the servers, and there is always some slayer group to join...
 

Mokune

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So many good points made in this thread. OFC I am a fan of moar xp given or less xp needed. I don't use pots that often. My leveling "system" is dynamic and changes up from life to life. It's very similar to rapidfox's and I like the pace of it.

On lower life, under-geared alts I will do Slayer's from time to time for kicks.

On my main and "main alt" I start doing R4+ Heroic 18s (Vecna, etc) @ or near 20 and continue on to cap where I'll finish out any Legendary Sagas I may have started on the way for Curse Cards.

R4 is just as fast and easy as R1 and added reaper xp is nice. Moving on to R5-R7 in low/mid epics is good game experience for dealing with the Reapers that spawn in those difficulties.
 

Vertigo

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Many comments boil down to "Buy XP/slayer pots and shut up". Which is a messed up response.

they drop fairly often on gold rolls. and instead of being lazy and complaining you can actually just play the game; most sagas gives cards which can be sold, most new content gives various augment and ingredients (sun/moon, cardsm filiegree etc etc) you can sell these, if lucky and your playing the game a curse cleaners will drop for you which is the big bingo. picking up mysterious remnants from now til next year is also recommended.. but hey instead OP choose to write an essay. There are so many guides and tools these days and game is quite easy so no one is complaining if someone is just a warm body in a party....
 

Sarlona Raiding

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Many comments boil down to "Buy XP/slayer pots and shut up". Which is a messed up response.

There is enough xp without purchasing xp/slayer potions. People do this to speed up leveling vs. it being needed to get to 30.

I may have missed the part where someone said to buy pots and shut up, but I don't see that. I will use potions if I am trying to get quick iconic lifes, but in most cases I plan to stay at cap when epic leveling and want the favor rewards and raid flagging so pots don't help as I will just get to cap before I finish the epic quests I want to complete.
 

GrizzlyOso

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I think OP isn´t running it like you or me or most people tbh... I never run with pots in epics, and once done with ES-sagas, some token quests, and sometimes one of the slayer areas I´ll hit max. I´ll run sagas for cards and sell em on AH for shards that translates into gold rolls and greater/major slayer pots. once u hit 30 or 34, just TR back to 20 and 1 if your toon is low lifer and needs them tasty past lifes. Epic XP is just fine. Not including RXP, Sagas and slayer areas is wild when R1 is default setting for 98% of the servers, and there is always some slayer group to join...

I’m pretty sure the OP is pointing out that most lives are exactly like you described, which can be kind of boring, because that’s literally the template for an epic life.

If you hate eveningstar (here) it’s even worse. Or you can abuse slayers, or (challenges lol), or just do legendary (which I normally do) - but that’s not really “epics” I think they’re saying .

Where as heroic feels like you can pick and choose whole swaths of the game to play or not play, so can be perceived as less repetitive.
 

Sarlona Raiding

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I’m pretty sure the OP is pointing out that most lives are exactly like you described, which can be kind of boring, because that’s literally the template for an epic life.

If you hate eveningstar (here) it’s even worse. Or you can abuse slayers, or (challenges lol), or just do legendary (which I normally do) - but that’s not really “epics” I think they’re saying .

Where as heroic feels like you can pick and choose whole swaths of the game to play or not play, so can be perceived as less repetitive.

I think it boils down to personal opinion but I never found epic leveling difficult or time-consuming.
 

Diaari

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they drop fairly often on gold rolls. and instead of being lazy and complaining you can actually just play the game; most sagas gives cards which can be sold, most new content gives various augment and ingredients (sun/moon, cardsm filiegree etc etc) you can sell these, if lucky and your playing the game a curse cleaners will drop for you which is the big bingo. picking up mysterious remnants from now til next year is also recommended.. but hey instead OP choose to write an essay. There are so many guides and tools these days and game is quite easy so no one is complaining if someone is just a warm body in a party....

Putting in long hours at the gaslighting factory, i see.
 

Konsumer

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they drop fairly often on gold rolls. and instead of being lazy and complaining you can actually just play the game; most sagas gives cards which can be sold, most new content gives various augment and ingredients (sun/moon, cardsm filiegree etc etc) you can sell these, if lucky and your playing the game a curse cleaners will drop for you which is the big bingo. picking up mysterious remnants from now til next year is also recommended.. but hey instead OP choose to write an essay. There are so many guides and tools these days and game is quite easy so no one is complaining if someone is just a warm body in a party....
smh... "being lazy and complaining"
This type of insulting response is one of the biggest turn offs to writing or sharing anything on these forums.
 

FaceDancer

Olde Wurm
Which can only be done with xp potions and slayer pots. A lot of us do not want to support rushing through content by paying SSG.
Yeah, I understand and agree. This is actually a new thing for me since I have always been a mostly solo player. I have squirreled away a stack of pots for a few years so now their being dusted off.

This isn't going to work for many peeps and I'm not suggesting this is a fix. It is just an option/choice.
 

Vertigo

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Putting in long hours at the gaslighting factory, i see.
for what? playing the actual game?

you will get all these things when u play the actual game at cap. you will get stuff. you can use this stuff in various ways. I guess, you can take it as critique instead of learning really basic stuff... There are plenty of things to complain about in DDO -- this isn´t it.
 

LunaCee

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Many comments boil down to "Buy XP/slayer pots and shut up". Which is a messed up response.

Many of them are also being hella blind to the fact that most of the suggested slayers and legendary quest bypass suggestions... are expansions. And are a very quick way to lose new players when you dip out to an outside XP source five plus times within the space of eight levels that they cannot reach. Which comes with a price tag of over $120 to acquire.
 
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