For sure, thats my point. The goalpost keeps moving. The OP asked for "most effective" bullds and the poster I quoted pulled a sleight of hand and substituted effectiveness with something completely different.
"Adjust difficulty setting relative to whatever that build, gear, and one's skill supports and enjoy." Almost like the quote you copied summed it up. Every build can be nice as long as person is willing to run a difficulty that works with it. The OP asked for "most effective" and that means nothing without context, most effective for what? I gave the response that's most effect for enjoyment of the game, play what sounds fun, adjust the difficulty to what works.
I absolutely agree. But the first reponse was not that, it was that build doesnt matter because you can always just lower the difficulty setting, with the assumption that "effective" refered to "effective of fun and completely unrelated to any game mechanics, interactions, stats, contribution, progression rate etc".
ragonroar strikethru SWF attackspeed Enjoy
Those are all nice ones to play and have in parties. But might as well hate oneself (with any thrower) if the OP's "most effective" is in reference to getting past lives or leveling. I'd love to know what OP actually wants out of gameplay.
you cant say that.
Though you’ve done a lot of talking, and misrepresenting intelligent responses, you’ve been unable to do what you‘ve finally identified as a way forward: issue a list. What a shame we had to read all of that to get nowhere. It looks like the ideas you argued with along the way actually helped you come to the conclusion where the rest of us started.
Since no one actually contributes and theres no beans spilled cuz several peeps have Put up their vids Imma pick up the Job i guess
S tier : Deeps
20 Monk thrower : Monk movespeed Abundant step and Melee hp u shouldnt be able to die while also dealing Nutty dmg
12/6/2 Artificer variants : This thing is less defensive But Holy its even better than Monk dps wise which is absurd (Until u out of fussilade)
15/3/2 Debuffer : whenever a guildy stops playing it i get withdrawal symptoms
RC Splits : trivial
18/1/1 and Pure THF splits : Mow Packs Be giga tanky lives ez have funny button for doomies
15/5 : Bsword/Daxe Pally DL
Honorary Mention : gave Knifepalms Gxbow build a shot a while ago that thing slaps lol but that things even more painful during EF offtime (u need a repeater swap for offtime xd) also Bear/druids? idk man didnt
Frankly Idk about tanking Meta but its not like it ever changed 20 Fighter/DL Barb cant go wrong ehh?
wouldnt call it S tier but 20 Wizzy Deep gnome funny 60% kills kekw
Anyone is able to place that qualifier when posting a build. "This build is S-Tier at..."
Very good, one of the top DPS builds (but handwarps are much much better than stick. Handwraps and thrower are both top-tier at what they do (melee DPS with very good CC and utility, and sustained ranged DPS, respectively).)
OH for sure I usually Ottos or boxed my every thrower Life
The misrepresentation here, as per usual, is coming from you. At no point have I had any issue with the fact that "the most effective build" depends on the goal of the build. That is completely trivial. It is obvious that the best tank build is not the best DPS build. The posts and notion I called out is very different, that notion said that your build does not really matter and the most effective build is the one you enjoy most. The sleight of hand was to refer to "effective at having fun" instead of effectiveness of the character vs content which is what you are refering to now.
I linked 3 builds too. But without knowing the OP's desires, my original post and view stand; one should just have fun and tweak difficulty to make whatever one wants shine. It's silly to me to talk about "most efficient" builds without context of how one wants to use them; top tier in situation A can easily be bottom tier in situation B. Most people are better off just playing the game and figuring out what they want out of it rather than looking at a list of "S-tier" builds that may have zero relationship to the way they play the game. But since you keep bring it up, please post some of your builds. It's very tiresome with you constantly taking my comment like it's the end the of universe or some means of twisting things; having fun is my view on the foundation of gameplay and I regularly share my builds that are both strong and fun (to me). Surely you can too can post 3 or more full builds that hold up in high end content complete with gear sets like I did; and if we're lucky maybe they'll even be builds that people find fun too.
