Jellytelly
Active member
I can't believe how this thread seems to be have devolved into attacking Rabid. He is one of (if not the most) helpful person on this forum (and no, I am not in LD -- I am just a casual player).
List of Current S-tier builds...
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Epicsoul
Lava Divers Assistant to the Regional Manager
Here's what I'm playing right now:
- 20 Favored Soul Healer: S-tier for getting spots in raids and reaper groups. If you get really good at it, you can also pike a lot
- 20 Artificer Repeater: S-tier for fun and good damage. The build I play maximized past lives and gear, but you can still do well with far less. You can find the build here: Cyborg
- 20 Fey Pact Warlock: S-tier crowd control and a racial past life build. It's a lot of fun and will get you through reaper content if that's your goal. You can find the build here: Feylock
I dont Like gimps
Well-known member
cant wait for the write up <3 loved your Thrower and 20 Arti
So you'd solo level a Pally tank in R1? I mean you wouldnt die, but the quests would be sure taking a while !
Even if you went KOTC with a 2-hander and ignored the shield it would be far slower.
Weaponalpha
Well-known member
Rapid's 1st 3 responses (to an incredibly vague question...): 1)play builds you enjoy 2)i have posted numerous builds 3)here are some examples of those builds. what else would one need to read to know their intent? Clearly just being helpful. and the 1st response is the only one that really matters. being "effective" comes with experience regardless of build.
rabidfox
The People's Champion
I've leveled pure healers before where I just pop into any quest I see in a LFM and heal whomever is running the fastest (it's kind of fun to do for me). They go zoom zoom and I make sure they don't become a soul stone. I suppose one could do the same with a tank. Run fast, group mobs up, let the party deal with them. But I personally wouldn't want to solo with certain builds like that.
Requires being in a popular timezone. I often log in and see no LFMs in my level range and if I put up an LFM Im lucky to get 1 other person joining.
I do check the Who list and there are a few people around, but my guess is they have their own groups they run in. Which I must admit, my friends and I do when we all play together.
vryxnr
Well-known member
Apologies for this post being off topic to the OP, but did you know that the 9th point in the Community Rules is:
Don't bring up old arguments in unrelated threads.
If you feel this is happening, the report option is your friend.
Alas, I do not really follow specific builds nor do I have the inclination to write up my own in a shareable way. I can sometimes give suggestions on how to tweak a build to make it do more of what a person wants (I have meaningfully participated in many r10s and reaper push raids up to r10 raids, though my comfort zone while solo is currently r6-7, so I still have a ways to go to join the solo-r10 crowd), but that seems of little use here, hence the lack of participation. Besides, I still find the question too vague to even attempt a reasonable answer.
Don't bring up old arguments in unrelated threads.
If you feel this is happening, the report option is your friend.
Alas, I do not really follow specific builds nor do I have the inclination to write up my own in a shareable way. I can sometimes give suggestions on how to tweak a build to make it do more of what a person wants (I have meaningfully participated in many r10s and reaper push raids up to r10 raids, though my comfort zone while solo is currently r6-7, so I still have a ways to go to join the solo-r10 crowd), but that seems of little use here, hence the lack of participation. Besides, I still find the question too vague to even attempt a reasonable answer.
Shear-buckler
Well-known member
That is ignoring the meta narrative.
Poster 1: too long past life grind is required for higher difficulties.
Poster 2: no, all that really matters is your build.
Poster 1: ok, what are the most effective builds?
Poster 2: build does not really matter, just lower the difficulty.
The key word being unrelated. The thread I have referenced is very much related.
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vryxnr
Well-known member
Are those the exact words used? Or is this a paraphrase that possibly changed the intent of the original conversations? Because those "quotes" I could see have coming from a conversation that makes more sense even paired together. A slight adjustment in perspective/re-framing of those "arguments" might look like this:
Can any/every build complete high reaper difficulty solo? No. There are garbage builds out there. To solo high reaper, you do need a good build (as well as game knowledge/skill).
Can any/every build play all quests in the game and be enjoyable? Yes, but you'll have to adjust the difficulty to match what you can do.
Those answers are not mutually exclusive. They are actually both true. Each question (even in your version) are asking different things.
rabidfox
The People's Champion
Real friends don't deathblock you.
vryxnr
Well-known member
Isn't your version of those conversations also a strawman, as it's not what was actually said, but a "condensation" (misrepresentation) of the original argument to rephrase it in a way that's easier to defeat than the original argument?
I dont Like gimps
Well-known member
How to get squelched fast
Spook
Ghostly Troll
Well the post was a joke but yes I have actually levelled a Shuri Thrower, a swim cleric, and a Pure fighter intimitank to cap solo on R1 as a personal challenge so yes I would.
I dont recommend though.
Would love to know your usual time to cap vs the time for those above.
Im thinking I want my alt to be a Pally tank next but the idea of mostly solo'ing to 30 doesnt excite me.
Plus, even at cap I wont be able to farm gear anywhere near as easily as I can as a Caster Arty right now.
Weaponalpha
Well-known member
OP post:
"Please describe or link the your vote for the currently most effective build(s). Feel free to list more than one. Bonus if you say how it would change as you move through different stages of the game.
I'll try to compile everyone's suggestions below, or will maybe make a poll of the top several.
Thanks!"
Zero mention of pl grind. zero mention of higher difficulties. You are off topic. Rapid answered the effective build vagueness in their 1st, 2nd and 3rd post. 1st by sharing some wisdom and expressing the fact that playing a build that you enjoy is usually the most fun. then by referring to builds that they found effective.
Cmecu
Well-known member
Correct, and I made it quite clear it was for lower reapers. Nothing higher than R4.
PraetorPlato
Well-known member
It's not great if you don't have a lesser heart, but it's workable. The KOTC imbue does a lot, and once you hit epics, quick makes it easy.
When people put the best builds in a forum, or stream what are good builds, the devs see it, than nerf them. If you create a build that works great, the last thing you need is the Daybreak Games employees see it and than nerf it on you.