Manyshot - Plenty of Time Now

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EinarMal

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Marshal_Lannes said:
Yes. Because you could give every longbow in the game an across the board extra +1 critical multiplier, and the high-end players would still call them trash compared to Inquisitive because the rate of fire is so much lower. This has, in a crystal clear way, shown how out of balance Inquisitive combat DPS is compared to other ranged styles. Giving Longbows a permanent manyshot would be a way to close the gap with two-gun builds and repeating xbows.
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They should let my caster cast two spells at once as well, I have two hands. I think that would be the only way casters could also compete with inquisitive DPS (but only until you run out of spell points).

Bows/Casters are literally 1/2 the DPS or less of crossbows right now.
 
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toaf

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EinarMal said:
They should let my caster cast two spells at once as well, I have two hands. I think that would be the only way casters could also compete with inquisitive DPS (but only until you run out of spell points).

Bows/Casters are literally 1/2 the DPS or less of crossbows right now.
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im up for dual wand :D
 
Teh_Troll

Teh_Troll

Master of Baiting
EinarMal said:
They should let my caster cast two spells at once as well, I have two hands. I think that would be the only way casters could also compete with inquisitive DPS (but only until you run out of spell points).

Bows/Casters are literally 1/2 the DPS or less of crossbows right now.
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Why not fire two fireballs at once? Makes more sense than firing a crossbow in each hand that you load with your nipples because fireballs are at least magic.
 
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Fizban

Fizban

Founder, Feb. 2006
danzig138 said:
Okay, we've now had MORE than enough time to evaluate the changes to Manyshot that turned it into a charged garbage mess to realize now that it should be a toggle, like Power Attack and/or Heavy Draw, right?

So, you know, fix it. Thanks.
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/Not Signed

I like the change to Manyshot. Leave it as is, no changes needed.
 
Kritikal

Kritikal

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Manyshot works fine, just lower the recharge timer.

As for Casters, allow them to equip an Orb in the off-hand along with a staff.
 
Fizban

Fizban

Founder, Feb. 2006
Jasparius said:
What is your suggestion to boost the DPS, given bow builds are massively behind?
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Hmmmm,
  • To open, builds are not massively behind. Most player characters do way more damage than any NPC ever does.
  • Ranged builds (I prefer longbows) do a lot of damage and I'm happy with them.
  • The goal should not be to continually push SSG for instance or one-shot kills. Mobs go down pretty fast already.
My Story:
I play a Dark Hunter (Wood-elf) tier 4 Dark Hunter w/longbow, tier 5 Horizon Walker and my damage is pretty good. In general, I normally finish in the top 1 to 3 in kills and overall damage. With only about 40 plus past lives and good gear that I have collected over time.

Not every class is meant to be the APLHA KILLERs. For instance, a very good player with a solid Sorcerer build will always put out insane damage. This is also a D&D thing as well.
 
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Jasparius

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Fizban said:
Hmmmm,
  • To open, builds are not massively behind. Most player characters do way more damage than any NPC ever does.
  • Ranged builds (I prefer longbows) do a lot of damage and I'm happy with them.
  • The goal should not be to continually push SSG for instance or one-shot kills. Mobs go down pretty fast already.
My Story:
I play a Dark Hunter (Wood-elf) tier 4 Dark Hunter w/longbow, tier 5 Horizon Walker and my damage is pretty good. In general, I normally finish in the top 1 to 3 in kills and overall damage. With only about 40 plus past lives and good gear that I have collected over time.

Not every class is meant to be the APLHA KILLERs. For instance, a very good player with a solid Sorcerer build will always put out insane damage. This is also a D&D thing as well.
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Why not? Why cant I want my favourite build to be as powerful as any other build? Why is it okay that it is nowhere near as good meaning I am gimping myself when I play what I want to play?

Also, someone posted a video of their arty doing 10m dpm damage. Could you do 5m dpm?

No-one who plays a lot of builds would agree with you about bows not being massively behind unless they were trolling, lying, or simply dont know how to play the game.
 
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EinarMal

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Jasparius said:
Why not? Why cant I want my favourite build to be as powerful as any other build? Why is it okay that it is nowhere near as good meaning I am gimping myself when I play what I want to play?

Also, someone posted a video of their arty doing 10m dpm damage. Could you do 5m dpm?

No-one who plays a lot of builds would agree with you about bows not being massively behind unless they were trolling, lying, or simply dont know how to play the game.
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I agree at least at cap.

I don't think most people test builds, so they think they are good because kill counts are such a bad metric. The reality is if they actually tested their DPS they are probably 20-50% of a good inquisitive build with a bow build.

I don't think any caster could do more than 50% of the damage of a top inquisitive right now. You could take a pure sorc, swap a few feats around, and do more damage as an inquisitive than you can with spells easily on a class with zero native support for ranged.
 
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