Melee vs. Caster Single-target DPS Test

Dogbreath68

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I want to know what the ac is for some barrels around Stormreach. I would like armor made from some of these barrels.
 

VinoeWhines

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So a Swash / EK build ?
I want to see what 6 Wizard can get me the most for Spell Casting/Buff/Debuffing/Color Spray(or any CC). The 4 Bard for using Orbs offhand with SWF swash...? Not Mutu but Manageable. The 10x would be to see what gives. (I guess it might/could be a TR template in the future.)
Race would be another can of worms to hook on to.
 

Smokewolf

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I want to see what 6 Wizard can get me the most for Spell Casting/Buff/Debuffing/Color Spray(or any CC). The 4 Bard for using Orbs offhand with SWF swash...? Not Mutu but Manageable. The 10x would be to see what gives. (I guess it might/could be a TR template in the future.)
Race would be another can of worms to hook on to.
Problem will be that most of the spell abilities are all tied to your caster level. Hence unless your playing a Wild Mage (Unstable Sorcery: mixed magics), don't expect any scaling.
 
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Drakmoon

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THF Gaxe Adrenaline Barb
1,747,431——57 sec
1,515,626——33sec
1,757,334——55sec

1,648,421——32 sec(Unbridled Fury)
1,567,412——42sec
1,752,431——32sec

Rxbow int 15art/3dl/2rg
1,455,846——29 sec
1,659,296——23 sec(Inexorable Advance)
 
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Teh_Troll

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THF Gaxe Adrenaline Barb
1,747,431——57 sec
1,515,626——33sec
1,757,334——55sec

1,648,421——32 sec(Unbridled Fury)
1,567,412——42sec
1,752,431——32sec

Rxbow int 15art/3dl/2rg
1,455,846——29 sec
1,659,296——23 sec(Inexorable Advance)
What kind of vulnerabilities are you able to put on the target?

Asking as my TWFing HORC Dragonlord gets him (at about 1.4 Million HP and change) in 20 seconds and my Longbow Archer in 18-19 on average at about the same HP. Epic moments are of course in effect, but my builds are crap.
 
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Lopnel

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I think my thrower build killed that boss in like 20 seconds on reaper 6. However a barbarian can prob do it in 10 seconds. Each build is different and has a role to play. Caster builds IMO are in the realm of moderate dps at best for good reason as they have access to insta kill or use crowd control effects reliably with aoe spells. The only change I would love to see is while in high reapers casters get the same penalties that a physical build would.
 

Drakmoon

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What kind of vulnerabilities are you able to put on the target?

Asking as my TWFing HORC Dragonlord gets him (at about 1.4 Million HP and change) in 20 seconds and my Longbow Archer in 18-19 on average at about the same HP. Epic moments are of course in effect, but my builds are crap.
dust and LD mantle
 

Smokewolf

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I think my thrower build killed that boss in like 20 seconds on reaper 6. However a barbarian can prob do it in 10 seconds. Each build is different and has a role to play. Caster builds IMO are in the realm of moderate dps at best for good reason as they have access to insta kill or use crowd control effects reliably with aoe spells. The only change I would love to see is while in high reapers casters get the same penalties that a physical build would.
Well thats just it... Physical builds dont really have Reaper penalties in the same sense that Casters do. Comparing one to a Caster like you are glosses over the real problem. -The lack of class inter-dependability that made DnD so great no longer exists in DDO. IMHO giving physical DPS heals, CC and insta-kill abilities makes pure casters (Especially DC) pointless to play. Not when the roles Casters exclusively had, can now be done by a Physical DPS better. Without much of the min-maxing and gear Tetris casting is known for.

Further-more, insta-kills and CC are pointless in situations where half the mobs are natrally immune. (R6 and up) Nevermind the fact that DC casters are generally crap at raw DPS due to the extreme min-max'ing required to beat the DC's of stat bloated mobs. Such that, Nuking down high tier mobs, reapers and raid bosses will take longer... Resulting in many groups avoiding casters outright.
 

Bjond

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Yegora in Myth dranor is a much better target.
Yeah, the warehouse is just a quick delete. Yegora takes a couple rotations.

We need a parser or a configurable target dummy: hp, defenses, tanked (ie. you're always flanking), untanked, creature-type (construct, undead, live) etc.. AND, it can't be on the ship. It needs it's own instance so we can test REHN settings.

Considering the effort to create said instance versus dumping the log to a file, I'd pick the latter, but SSG will certainly demur entirely.
 
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