New 64-bit Game Worlds Arrive July 15th!

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Urklore

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You are giving us less than 2 months to transfer 8 servers of character before they shut down? And you seriously think two US servers are going to squeeze 8 servers of names and think people will not be upset about losing their character name?
 

Solarpower

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You are giving us less than 2 months to transfer 8 servers of character before they shut down? And you seriously think two US servers are going to squeeze 8 servers of names and think people will not be upset about losing their character name?
Who cares about the names when you can lose most of you characters itself ? You can't fit 432 characters in one server. Even all 4 new servers won't be enough !
 

Urklore

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Who cares about the names when you can lose most of you characters itself ? You can't fit 432 characters in one server. Even all 4 new servers won't be enough !
My poor characters, I do not want to count how many chars I have. I am such an altholic, what is like 20-50 chars on 8 servers, lol
 

Xaerxiessia

Lost in Translation
No servers on US East?

That.. kind of screws over the east coast, I think? 60-90 ping to Las Vegas, or 100-120 ms to Amsterdam
From near Amsterdam :
to current location : 86 ~ 90ms (max 98ms, Marketplace)
to Las Vegas : 150 ~ 155ms (max 215ms, Marketplace)
 

rabidfox

The People's Champion
For those who wonder what happens when you transfer more characters than you have character slots; you have choose which characters to use.

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Solarpower

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I can imagine how much work needs to be done by someone who has several bank characters on different servers. 😏
Well, nobody (probably) needs 8 copies of the same gear set, but what if you don't have copleted sets on each of the servers ? You'll need to go through all of you characters, sort out the gear and decide who needs to be transferred !
In the end you'll get all the gear, that you didn't have before, on 1 server without farming, but for what cost ? With the current storage system, yeah. It'll be a huge pain in the neck.

From the other hand, I can also see someone might abuse the system to level up sentient gems. Literally, transfer 1 bank alt from 1 server - feed the gem, transfer 2nd bank alt with the same gear from the 2nd server - feed the gem and so on.

Looks like this whole transferring system has a lot of holes and flaws. 😄
 

Anurakh

Little Nixie
It is true that guilds will lose renown from members who are no longer active and who never transfer over.
But I don't understand how guild renown works in this context.

I'm the leader. If I transfer first and unpack the guild, does the guild lose all the renown from the guildies I haven't yet transferred? Do I have to be the last to transfer? It's quite a hassle if that's the case.

And how many guild levels can be lost due to untransferred toons? Or is there a loss of renown, but not levels? I wouldn't be happy if my level 200 guild dropped to less than 150 due to late transfers.
 

Finngon

8500+ Hour Veteran
It screws EU people more who want to keep Aussie/American friends. I now have access to better ping... but very few people I'd know beforehand for almost all my comrades are not EU-based.
Yeah this is the current problem I have. I'm Finnish, and most of the people I play with are USE. If I try to go to Las Vegas servers, I'm facing 180-200'ish ping, which is very bad. But if my american friends go to Amsterdam, they're facing 100-120 ms ping, which isn't fun for them when they've gottne used to 40'ish ping themselves. It's playable though (given I'm playhing with 120-130 ms ping atm), but just annoying there isn't USE server option anymore for a good middle ground
 
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Erofen

Keeper of Hades' Secrets
I can imagine how much work needs to be done by someone who has several bank characters on different servers. 😏
Well, nobody (probably) needs 8 copies of the same gear set, but what if you don't have copleted sets on each of the servers ? You'll need to go through all of you characters, sort out the gear and decide who needs to be transferred !
In the end you'll get all the gear, that you didn't have before, on 1 server without farming, but for what cost ? With the current storage system, yeah. It'll be a huge pain in the neck.

From the other hand, I can also see someone might abuse the system to level up sentient gems. Literally, transfer 1 bank alt from 1 server - feed the gem, transfer 2nd bank alt with the same gear from the 2nd server - feed the gem and so on.

Looks like this whole transferring system has a lot of holes and flaws. 😄
What would be getting abused? How would you be acquiring a duplicate that you wouldn't have before? You'd still have all the xp you had earned before, whether or not it is now being consolidated.
 

Cyran

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Currently the Transfer tool will not let you choose a char that is a guild leader. Since the only way to transfer Guilds is to transfer Guild leader I assuming that limitation will be removed from the transfer tool on July 9th when the new servers open?
 

Erofen

Keeper of Hades' Secrets
But I don't understand how guild renown works in this context.

I'm the leader. If I transfer first and unpack the guild, does the guild lose all the renown from the guildies I haven't yet transferred? Do I have to be the last to transfer? It's quite a hassle if that's the case.

And how many guild levels can be lost due to untransferred toons? Or is there a loss of renown, but not levels? I wouldn't be happy if my level 200 guild dropped to less than 150 due to late transfers.
This is a very important question. Because for instance, the kicking players that are inactive type of thing doesn't make you lose that reknown, so how would that reknown that is currently only attached to the guild or w/e transfer? Would it? Do we need to kick people to be able to keep their level contributions on the new servers?
 

Solarpower

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What would be getting abused? How would you be acquiring a duplicate that you wouldn't have before?
The point is, you had duplicates before. But they were spread through 8 different servers.
Now, you can have them all in 1 server. For free.
 

Mindos

CHAOTIC EVIL
Guild leaders can't transfer currently, you have to pass leadership. But guild leaders need to pack and transfer to set up the new server guild. Have you guys tested this stuff?
 

Br4d

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Yeah this is the current problem I have. I'm Finnish, and most of the people I play with are USE. If I try to go to Las Vegas servers, I'm facing 180-200'ish ping, which is very bad. But if my american friends go to Amsterdam, they're facing 100-120 ms ping, which isn't fun for them when they've gottne used to 40'ish ping themselves. It's playable though (given I'm playhing with 120-130 ms ping atm), but just annoying there isn't USE server option anymore for a good middle ground

Assuming I get the same ping to Moonsea that I get to Amsterdam my latency will be in the vicinity of 100ms, likely a little bit lower. I *think* this will be playable as long as packet loss is not happening also.

My latency to LV is 78-81 w/no packet loss and Cormyr is 100% playable and good performance at this point. from ECUSA. I think Midwestern players will have to go to LV though. They're likely to get 120-125ms to Amsterdam while seeing 50-60 to LV and that's not much of a choice.

I'm currently planning to move my Wayfinder characters to Moonsea for the ability to stay in touch with a few Euro friends and maybe a couple of standard build cap players to Thrane to hangout and see how that server develops while most of my characters and stash go to Cormyr. I expect that from the East Coast I will have similar and satisfactory access to all my toons at that point.
 

Matuse

Join Date: February 2006
Anyone else going to be sad that they cannot get free gold goodies every week on 8 servers?
You can continue to get gold (and silver) goodies on all the servers, and then merge them into one location so you don't stare longingly at the +2 Racial Tome that was sitting in a different universe than the character who needs it.
 
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