New 64-bit Game Worlds Arrive July 15th!

[rabidfox]

a few questions about character transfer:
1. do you keep all your favor and favor rewards (like Universal trees, veteran status, etc.)? would be awkward if you transfer and then find out you can't continue with the build you are playing...
2. If you do get to keep all the favor, can you still get the first time reaching X favor on the server? for example, if i transfer a character with 900 favor and then get 100 more, do i get the first-time-bonus for 100 favor or for 1000 favor?
3. You said you get the Account Bank Shared Storage. if i transfer 3 characters from the same server, will i get the shared bank 3 times? or the first transfer "steals" the bank and the rest tranfer nothing with them? also, if i transfer from different server do i get the shared bank i had on all of them together?
4. It also doesn't look like a "packed" character will get locked. so can I "pack" a character, move some/all it's inventory to another character to be packed again and eventually get items i want multiple times in the next server?
5. Do you keep the status of your sagas and raid flags, or do you need to reflag everything?

This thread is already 27 pages long so maybe someone have already asked it but there is no way Im reading all of it to find out lol.

1) Character favor (bank/inventory/HP/etc.) unlocks move with the character. I'm not sure if SSG has fully indicated if the account based ones (like harpers/arti) are part of the pack function or not.

2) "for example, if i transfer a character with 900 favor and then get 100 more, do i get the first-time-bonus for 100 favor or for 1000 favor?" Yes. And if you TR (or run a fresh character) you can still earn the 1st time favors for 1 to 900 too; as those haven't been done yet on that server.

3) 1st character to pack takes all those items, it'll empty you shared bank out. So no duping of that stuff.

4) The packing doesn't "pack" your regular invenory/personal bank that's part of the base transfer process, so if you move an item to someone then you moved that item so it won't be on that character any more.

5) Sagas/raid flags/guild buff you have on you/xp pots running/etc. all move with a character, just like they always have.

 

[rabidfox]

From discord this morning:

 

[Matuse]

That's not the kind of important information that should be on Discord. It should be in big bold large font explicitly spelled out wording on the main page. I don't understand why SSG is so awful at basic communication.

 

[mikarddo]

That's not the kind of important information that should be on Discord. It should be in big bold large font explicitly spelled out wording on the main page. I don't understand why SSG is so awful at basic communication.

Cordovon has posted the same on the forum too

 

[erethizon1]

You have a choice to stay with your guild or lower your ping. I am US East so my ping increases regardless, I don't see that as a problem. The only possible compliant I see to this move is the potential loss of character and guild names.

You seem to be forgetting about the people. There is simply no way I see all the people I like to play with moving to the same server. No matter what, the population is going to get split up. Perhaps the new population will be better, but it doesn't surprise me that people are upset that they have been playing with people for 10 years or more and in a couple of months some of those people will be gone because of this change.

 

[rabidfox]

That's not the kind of important information that should be on Discord. It should be in big bold large font explicitly spelled out wording on the main page. I don't understand why SSG is so awful at basic communication.

He's posted that multiple times in multiple locations including the forums (see quote below). I just copied/pasted that latest discord post since it keeps coming up again. I'm sure it'll get posted a bunch more times here and on other discords too as people will miss reading posts in multi-paged threads like this one.

You will need to run the Pack command on any character you wish to transfer. Once packed, you can transfer that character to a destination world, then log that character in and unpack. The transfer function will continue to allow you to make a selection of characters to transfer, and as long as those characters have run the Pack function, they should be able to transfer as a group.

 

[Cordovan]

But how are we supposed to know how to do this process correctly. And if we don't do it correctly, what items, past lives, RXP etc will we lose?

We will have full instructions prior to July 9th including things like screenshots and video, but there should be little room for error since all you will need to do in most cases is just engage with the command/button/whatever it ends up being as option(s). Nothing other then the things already listed should be lost.

I think you are right Jack if you don’t have anything you care about to pack then you can just transfer. At least that is how I read it.

This is incorrect. All characters are required to run the Pack function prior to transfer, and the transfer system will not permit transfer unless a Pack function is run on that character. The reason for this is because the Pack function packs your character in addition to account data.

a few questions about character transfer:
1. do you keep all your favor and favor rewards (like Universal trees, veteran status, etc.)? would be awkward if you transfer and then find out you can't continue with the build you are playing...
2. If you do get to keep all the favor, can you still get the first time reaching X favor on the server? for example, if i transfer a character with 900 favor and then get 100 more, do i get the first-time-bonus for 100 favor or for 1000 favor?
3. You said you get the Account Bank Shared Storage. if i transfer 3 characters from the same server, will i get the shared bank 3 times? or the first transfer "steals" the bank and the rest tranfer nothing with them? also, if i transfer from different server do i get the shared bank i had on all of them together?
4. It also doesn't look like a "packed" character will get locked. so can I "pack" a character, move some/all it's inventory to another character to be packed again and eventually get items i want multiple times in the next server?
5. Do you keep the status of your sagas and raid flags, or do you need to reflag everything?

This thread is already 27 pages long so maybe someone have already asked it but there is no way Im reading all of it to find out lol.

1. Yes.
2. This is still in testing, but probably based on how I'd expect it to work.
3. When you run the Pack function on the first character, your associated account level data will be Packed with that character. Further characters that run the Pack function will bring in any additional Account stuff done since the last time the Pack function was run.
4. Things that are packed shouldn't be accessible, and things that aren't packed like character inventory will retain whatever state they were in when you actually transfer. So, you can't do this to duplicate items, nor should you be able to of course.
5. I don't personally know as I'm writing this.

 

[erethizon1]

If ping is of no issue for yourself you are free to come to Moonsea and enjoy playing with people from dozens of EU countries!

True, but then the population will be low during American prime time instead. The best situation is what we have now where people from all time zones are mixed together so there is always someone to play with no matter when you are on.

 

[Rosze]

I do hope they do look into some options to improve character naming. I fear it's going to be a sea of -1 -2... characters. Surely there's a way to allow for more names.

 

[Solarpower]

I do hope they do look into some options to improve character naming. I fear it's going to be a sea of -1 -2... characters. Surely there's a way to allow for more names.

They've already said you'll be able to free rename a character to get rid of -1 etc.

 

[Rosze]

They've already said you'll be able to free rename a character to get rid of -1 etc.

That won't help though since coming up with names is hard enough. I already have same name across few servers meaning ill have to rename them and I can't use the same name

 

[rabidfox]

5. I don't personally know as I'm writing this.

That one should work ("Do you keep the status of your sagas and raid flags, or do you need to reflag everything?") based off prior characters I've moved from HC and when I moved characters from Khyber to Argo (unless something changed with the new work on transfers). My flags stuck around just fine.

 

[Matuse]

Cordovon has posted the same on the forum too

Still not good enough. Everyone is being directed by the launcher to the main page. The main page does not have this information. Most people don't really read the forums at all, and an even smaller subset of those will be regularly checking the staff tracker and and even smaller number of those people will be checking each individual post to see if there is something new they haven't seen before.

Communication on this transfer is the second most important thing SSG can be doing (the first being making sure that everything functions like it is supposed to from an engineering standpoint), and they are bungling it horribly. The day 1 post about the new servers should have included an exhaustive FAQ covering numerous circumstances and all conceivable questions. This thread is approaching 30 pages, and a huge amount of the posts are people asking "What about X" when X is a very forseeable circumstance and no answer had already been given.

 

[Solarpower]

unless something changed with the new work on transfers

Guess, we'll know that in 9th of July, right ?
Some people here are already waiting for some lab fox to do all the testing for them.

 

[mikarddo]

True, but then the population will be low during American prime time instead. The best situation is what we have now where people from all time zones are mixed together so there is always someone to play with no matter when you are on.

In my experience its more that nomatter when I log on there is hardly anyone to play with. If there were plenty of people and loads of lfm around the clock we likely would not see these mergers.

 

[Garix]

Any idea whether we'll need to move the guild leader first or last? Or won't it matter?

 

[Orbry]

True, but then the population will be low during American prime time instead. The best situation is what we have now where people from all time zones are mixed together so there is always someone to play with no matter when you are on.

Yet it's the same right now - during US prime time server is alive and you get 10+ public lfms open at any moment but outside that period you got 1-2 at most and often just 0 lfms. At least thats how it is on Ghallanda, don't play on other servers maybe things are different there but I assume EU players are stretched over all servers and it's the same "barely alive" state everywhere.

With Moonsea EU players will gather together into healthy population and experience responsive game (hopefully )

 

[Sylvado]

Still not good enough. Everyone is being directed by the launcher to the main page. The main page does not have this information. Most people don't really read the forums at all, and an even smaller subset of those will be regularly checking the staff tracker and and even smaller number of those people will be checking each individual post to see if there is something new they haven't seen before.

Communication on this transfer is the second most important thing SSG can be doing (the first being making sure that everything functions like it is supposed to from an engineering standpoint), and they are bungling it horribly. The day 1 post about the new servers should have included an exhaustive FAQ covering numerous circumstances and all conceivable questions. This thread is approaching 30 pages, and a huge amount of the posts are people asking "What about X" when X is a very forseeable circumstance and no answer had already been given.

"We will have full instructions prior to July 9th including things like screenshots and video, but there should be little room for error since all you will need to do in most cases is just engage with the command/button/whatever it ends up being as option(s). Nothing other then the things already listed should be lost."

 

[Sylvado]

Any idea whether we'll need to move the guild leader first or last? Or won't it matter?

Guild goes with the guild leader pack

 

[Owlbear]

Any idea whether we'll need to move the guild leader first or last? Or won't it matter?

I think guild leader first. So when you transfer the others they join the guild after unpack and transfer the renown. Might get messy if there is no guild to transfer it to.