Lag on the new 64 bit servers should, in theory, be better because insteady of SSG giving a Cyan abd Maganta flashing screen screaming LAAAGGGG!!!!!!!! at them every time there's a lag spike, apparently on the 64 bit servers they get a cyan and magenta pulsing banner saying "lag spike possibly caused by some idiot flogging his dead horse one too many times" This enables the dev's to immediately send a fritz bug out targeting the dead horse beaters monster manual and thus distracting them from their lag enducing behaviour.
New (forced) 64 bit servers a monumental let down...
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I'm glad someone else sees this for what it is. I'm not even sure why they didn't just come out and say we are going to do a server merge. It makes the mind wander around for hidden agendas.
magnus2882
Well-known member
nope.. absolute Rubbish.. we don't 'need' 64 bit servers.. we need to be able to run stuff how we want. and this isn't 2008, i'm not running windows XP, and I don't need to be running games at 1080p!
Feels like youre missing the point. Given its not 2008 we should be on 64 bit servers. Fearing change is weird at the best of times. Fearing a move to a technology which is already over a decade old is baffling.
rabidfox
The People's Champion
The answer is yes to both of these. The 64-bit servers have more overhead than the 32-bit and run smoother. Thus less lag/other issues, it's not 100% perfect or completely gone but it is better.
And there's been long standing bugs that were found after Cormyr rolled out; not ladder bugs but other performance related issues. As someone who bug reports a lot of stuff, including some things at a very basic "effects everyone" level, I'm itching for the 64-bit mass rollout.
Graceana
Stealer of Souls
Pretty soon people are going to tell you to give up your answering machine and try call waiting.
Weaponalpha
Well-known member
OMG I miss windows XP! It is comforting to still read about how the game is dying so thanks folks! DDO "We've been dying since 2006!" DDO will be around long after we have passed bcuz it's DnD. Like LotR or Star Wars it is bigger than life and so people will keep it going. But do carry on you have been absolutely wrong this entire time but maybe keep wishing and see if it comes true.
LeslieWest_GuitarGod
Well-known member
I would love to ADD to this DOOM thread with a splash of GLEE.
Tyrs Paladium will have growing pains moving over without a doubt (we have many that haven't played in YEARS that don't play any longer -- that renown will be lost). BUT... we are VERY MUCH UP to the challenge and we can not WAIT to play on 64 bit services as a guild and as an alliance. We will be helping our less tech savvy guildies with packing & unpacking. And we will be moving with our Alliance as well. And as far as that renown which we will lose... we WILL get every. point. back!
The upgrade is overall very positive for the long-term health of DDO, giving it the potential to support larger content updates and smoother play (especially at the highest graphics settings). It should eliminate many memory limitation bugs (e.g., crashes due to out-of-memory errors during large-scale fights or certain memory intensive spells like Otto's Dancing Ball).
32-bit systems are becoming obsolete. Moving to 64-bit ensures compatibility with future software and hardware. More efficient multi-threading and processing for background tasks, events, AI, etc. This will help our Devs to make DDO even better.
The game is not dying. No need for doom. We had doom in 2006, 2008 and 2009. Its 2025!!! And the game is still alive and being SUPPORTED.
LETS GO!!
Tyrs Paladium will have growing pains moving over without a doubt (we have many that haven't played in YEARS that don't play any longer -- that renown will be lost). BUT... we are VERY MUCH UP to the challenge and we can not WAIT to play on 64 bit services as a guild and as an alliance. We will be helping our less tech savvy guildies with packing & unpacking. And we will be moving with our Alliance as well. And as far as that renown which we will lose... we WILL get every. point. back!
The upgrade is overall very positive for the long-term health of DDO, giving it the potential to support larger content updates and smoother play (especially at the highest graphics settings). It should eliminate many memory limitation bugs (e.g., crashes due to out-of-memory errors during large-scale fights or certain memory intensive spells like Otto's Dancing Ball).
32-bit systems are becoming obsolete. Moving to 64-bit ensures compatibility with future software and hardware. More efficient multi-threading and processing for background tasks, events, AI, etc. This will help our Devs to make DDO even better.
The game is not dying. No need for doom. We had doom in 2006, 2008 and 2009. Its 2025!!! And the game is still alive and being SUPPORTED.
LETS GO!!
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Can you name a provider that's cheap? Because I'm looking to lower my infra cost
AbyssalMage
Well-known member
But the 64 bit server allows all of the bugs to run smoother. Now the current developers can create more bugs before the next set of developers need to fix them! And the cycle of bugs continues.
TedSandyman
Well-known member
Faster stronger bugs is the most likely outcome.
SirShen Time Bandit Hero
Active member
No one else worried that its going from 9 to just 4 servers? I was like WOW thats worring.
8 to 4 but what is the concern in that?
Greyhawk5
Was Amorais
I've a couple of takes on this:
* Moving to 64 bit servers might be necessary to upgrade needed backend support apps and networking. Especially since Win 10 is going in October. Merging the servers is an obvious benefit.
* Less servers to maintain is an across the board saving for the company.
* The move underlines a commitment to continue. They could have just closed it and walked away
* Keeping the 32 bit servers in a kind of admin limbo for two years reinforces this move
* They have put in dev and testing time to do this. Again, this also reinforces a game commitment.
* Merging the servers may give some headroom for specialised servers such as Hardcore or Original game rules from 2006 style servers
After re-reading the notes I think its less work for us than I first thought. Which is also good.
So, not seeing "DOOOOM" here. Rather the opposite in all honesty.
* Moving to 64 bit servers might be necessary to upgrade needed backend support apps and networking. Especially since Win 10 is going in October. Merging the servers is an obvious benefit.
* Less servers to maintain is an across the board saving for the company.
* The move underlines a commitment to continue. They could have just closed it and walked away
* Keeping the 32 bit servers in a kind of admin limbo for two years reinforces this move
* They have put in dev and testing time to do this. Again, this also reinforces a game commitment.
* Merging the servers may give some headroom for specialised servers such as Hardcore or Original game rules from 2006 style servers
After re-reading the notes I think its less work for us than I first thought. Which is also good.
So, not seeing "DOOOOM" here. Rather the opposite in all honesty.
magnus2882
Well-known member
Overhead is irrelevant, I GUARANTEE you all that the lag won't be 'better'. The poor coding is to blame for that - not the lack of overhead. Mark my words, said here, and now - you all will owe me a profound apology for drinking the SSG kool-aid.. the lag will be the same - or worse.
Like I said; 64 bit servers are going to do nothing to fix the lag.