New (forced) 64 bit servers a monumental let down...

[magnus2882]

Pretty soon people are going to tell you to give up your answering machine and try call waiting.

this has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

 

[Sylvado]

Overhead is irrelevant, I GUARANTEE you all that the lag won't be 'better'. The poor coding is to blame for that - not the lack of overhead. Mark my words, said here, and now - you all will owe me a profound apology for drinking the SSG kool-aid.. the lag will be the same - or worse.

Like I said; 64 bit servers are going to do nothing to fix the lag.

I am sure that being wrong will not be a novel experience for you.

 

[rabidfox]

Overhead is irrelevant, I GUARANTEE you all that the lag won't be 'better'. The poor coding is to blame for that - not the lack of overhead. Mark my words, said here, and now - you all will owe me a profound apology for drinking the SSG kool-aid.. the lag will be the same - or worse.

Like I said; 64 bit servers are going to do nothing to fix the lag.

My comment is based directly how things play out on the 32-bit worlds vs Cormyr; there's an observable difference for some stuff for me. Pop onto Cormyr and try things for yourself, maybe it'll do nothing for you or maybe you'll notice it's better (just better, it's an old game, don't expect perfection, just attempts to make things better bit by bit).

 

[HunterRayder93]

It's splitting Orien up and that sucks.
The community will be split between US and EU.
I don't want to play on a pure EU server.
The people suck. I'm speaking from experience 28 years of MMORPG experience.
US people are more collegial and also US servers are more international.
Of course that rule doesn't fit all, but EU servers are usually closed, walled off gardens and you're not part of the gang, ever.
US people are more talkative and social, EU you could die, no one would give a ****.

BUT, US servers are too far away from Europe, which means bad latency, 200+ms is not a fun game experience.

So now I have to decide, and what if I don't want to, all my chars and the guild and amenities get deleted?
No ******* way. Prepare for multiple lawsuits if that's the case.
There has to be a fallback option.
What about people who didn't play this game in a longer while and will return in a year or three?
Same happened with Rift, they simply closed the server without notifying anyone.
All the money spent, all the time and effort spent over the years, gone.
Do you believe anyone who had their stuff deleted will ever spend a single cent or even a nanosecond with any of this company's services?

@OP lag will be better, because it's better hardware which can handle more resources used.
Cormyr has shown that.

I think I'll move to Cormyr, simply because population already exists and I have chars there already and if I wasn't kicked from Death Smile for inactivity also a guild.

This do or die ******** needs to go, the worst possible choice to do things.

This is my fear... Lately I'm having a lot of anxiety and indecision about where to choose where to go, on one hand I want to play in a server where I feel good and I'm not treated like a garbage bag, on the other hand I would like to play in a server where I don't have to stay up late at night until 8 in the morning to be able to play and find efficient groups for the content I have to do... Monsea and Cormyr 1-2 days ago after this "big announcement" seem to be the 2 servers that many will move to... I could be wrong but many are thinking of going to Cormyr (which I initially thought of doing too) but I have no idea if it's worth the risk... the reality is that in 10 years that I've been playing this game I've never been in a fixed guild... I've gone here and there to different guilds and I've always played alone with my forces and joined pug groups (like a beggar who begs) to be able to try to level up as quickly as possible, lately I've done one I'm wrong to invest in DDO again but like LOTRO, DDO has a space in my heart and it's a game that I love very much and I never want to forget it... that's why before making this transfer I want to understand what is best for me to do... whether to go to Cormyr or Monsea... I want to make the right choice... because losing 10 years of progress is not something I want to happen.

 

[Loromir]

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Will the 64 bit servers fix the giant lag monster that has been plaguing this game for nearly two decades? NO.
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Exactly how do you know this is the case?

I personally have run many hours on Cormyr. While there was the lag the first couple of weeks. Lag has since become almost non existent.

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

As an aside, is the Cormyr server already located in Las Vegas, or will it be moved there along with Eric and Thrane when the switch happens?

 

[rabidfox]

As an aside, is the Cormyr server already located in Las Vegas, or will it be moved there along with Eric and Thrane when the switch happens?

It's been there the whole time. You can log onto it if you want to see how your ping will be.

 

[Lopnel]

We are getting brand new servers to play this game. There will be less lag, bugs and better overall performance. Prepare to build your friends lists by 3 fold. This event is brought to you by the player base. Trust the process and prepare to be excited about the new heavier zones for game play and meeting new friends along the way.

 

[FaceDancer]

There's no point upgrading a game that doesn't have a good foundation. The shift to these servers is just that.
To me these are an investment in DDO's future. There are different teams that handle different aspects of the game. The UI peeps are not the server peeps. This doesn't detract from other work going forward. This is a move in the right direction and sometimes change is painful, but a necessary evil.

 

[toaf]

 

[LokiFrost]

new 64 bit server is the best thing for DDO and players for many obvious reasons when you stop being toxic for everything devs are saying or doing

Well put, friendo. Well put.

 

[Felsyn]

Eh

 

[Cildar]

Let me preface this by saying that i'm very much in favor of SSG dusting off this 20 year old game and trying to somewhat modernize it - BUT, I think making a 64 bit server and forcing players to migrate to them is a strange and unwanted move.

Why you might ask?

Well let's come at this from a technical aspect.

Will the 64 bit servers improve graphics? No.
Will the 64 bit servers fix the giant lag monster that has been plaguing this game for nearly two decades? NO.
Will the 64 bit servers address the plethora of bugs that have gone ignored for many many years (i.e. the ladder bug). Most definitely NO!.

and now comes time to point out the ONE upgrade that the company refuses to do that would actually improve gameplay, member retention, and attract new players:

UPGRADE THE UI!

Here, almost 20 years later, players are forced to use lower resolutions to be able to SEE icons on their hotbars. Every try running this game @ 4k? You'd need a magnifying glass to read the text or see the icons. The game actually looks decent for a 20 year old game if you run it at 4k, just is not functional.

maybe time/money/resources could've been better spent on fixing the game's UI instead of making a 64 bit version that people won't even notice because most people are running the client at 1920 or 1280 resolution!

/end rant

You are the kind of person that gets free tickets to a game and complains that the seats aren't great.

 

[Jasparius]

You are the kind of person that gets free tickets to a game and complains that the seats aren't great.

And then admits they were never a fan of the game anyway.

 

[Archest]

Then why have servers in Europe? I mean that MUST be expensive to have servers in two different continents much less countries.

I'm going to see what they do with the next xpac (Lamordia) before I make any judgements about the game dying or not. If Lamordia is a bunch of rehashed art assets (basically Barovia with a little "cup swapping/where's the ball?" kinda gimmick) then yeah, maybe they're running out of funds. Note the last TRUE expansion with unique assets, environments, and races was IoD.

low ping to prevent latency or maybe even the payment process as there are issues with the store and such over seas ( I haven't experience them because I'm not over seas.)

 

[Tádhg]

It's splitting Orien up and that sucks.
The community will be split between US and EU.
I don't want to play on a pure EU server.
The people suck. I'm speaking from experience 28 years of MMORPG experience.
US people are more collegial and also US servers are more international.
Of course that rule doesn't fit all, but EU servers are usually closed, walled off gardens and you're not part of the gang, ever.
US people are more talkative and social, EU you could die, no one would give a ****.

BUT, US servers are too far away from Europe, which means bad latency, 200+ms is not a fun game experience.

So now I have to decide, and what if I don't want to, all my chars and the guild and amenities get deleted?
No ******* way. Prepare for multiple lawsuits if that's the case.
There has to be a fallback option.
What about people who didn't play this game in a longer while and will return in a year or three?
Same happened with Rift, they simply closed the server without notifying anyone.
All the money spent, all the time and effort spent over the years, gone.
Do you believe anyone who had their stuff deleted will ever spend a single cent or even a nanosecond with any of this company's services?

@OP lag will be better, because it's better hardware which can handle more resources used.
Cormyr has shown that.

I think I'll move to Cormyr, simply because population already exists and I have chars there already and if I wasn't kicked from Death Smile for inactivity also a guild.

This do or die ******** needs to go, the worst possible choice to do things.

You're not part of the gang probably coz you're on here talking **** about them like you know them all xD

 

[Mindos]

the payment process as there are issues with the store and such over seas

This is a good point. I wonder if there will be any store purchase issues if the server is in Amsterdam. Or store purchase improvements for those who haven't been able to use it.

 

[Sophie The Cat Burglar]

Over the last 7 or 8 years, a very large number of players have asked for server mergers. On many occasions during that period, Darth Severlin stated he wanted to merge servers and consolidate population. This is not something out of the blue.

For quite a few years, a number of computer savvy players have asked for an upgrade to 64 bit servers. These players often claimed that such an upgrade would significantly reduce lag because of how 64 bit servers handle memory. Once again, on many occasions, Darth Severlin stated he wanted to do that upgrade to improve performance of the game.

With the introduction of Cormyr, the people at Standing Stone Games began the process of realizing both of the goals listed above. Very obviously, they consider the Cormyr experiment a significant success and have decided to go ahead with 64 bit servers while simultaneously consolidating the game population. "The 64 bit server upgrade is a cover to hide a server merge from players.", is pure nonsense. Some of you are crazy muffins.

If I recall correctly, perhaps two years ago, the people at Standing Stone Games explored updating the user interface for much higher resolutions. They discovered the cost was higher than expected. The people at Standing Stone Games tend to embrace very long term goals. Therefore, I am of the opinion that a user interface upgrade may still happen, but if so, it will not happen soon.

For me, the server merge is a very hopeful event because it will allow me to meet up with guilds and players from various Hardcore seasons. It will also allow me to consolidate a ton of junk. The merge will be much harder on players who already belong to an active community. There will be significant disruption and friends will part ways. However, all players will encounter many new people. There will be many opportunities to make new friends. Further, players can distribute characters across multiple servers and potentially have the very best of all worlds. I highly recommend thinking long and hard on that then planning accordingly.

Some people are worried they will end up on the wrong world. Please recall the following paragraph from the 64 bit World Announcement:

Additionally, we intend to offer a limited period of time where characters on a 64-bit game world can transfer for free to a different 64-bit game world. This will allow players who accidentally find themselves on the “wrong world” the ability to correct their mistake. We are not yet ready to announce when these transfers will become available. These transfers will also allow players to transfer from Cormyr to Moonsea for a limited period of time.

If your first server choice does not work out, you will have at least one second chance opportunity to pick another server. Pick carefully, but try all the servers and forge a backup plan. Try not to approach this as a burden. Treat it as a great opportunity.

We are only a few days past the announcement. We will get clarification. Players will make transfer guides. Brave players who go first will offer insights on the process. Try to remain patient and keep up with the forums.

"Go forth", they said, "And embrace all possibility!"

 

[Jack Jarvis Esquire]

I'm looking forward to the possibility of the low ping enabling the majority of adrenaline and boulder combos to actually work for a change!

 

[Buddha5440]

I'm looking forward to the possibility of the low ping enabling the majority of adrenaline and boulder combos to actually work for a change!

Sadly, I doubt it will fix your MM. :(

I do love all these pages upon pages of negative B. S. (I think one thread is up to 30+ pages) about how bad something is that hasn't even happened yet.