Optimus Wide

SpartanKiller13

Why do I have 522 ddo build files
Are you tired of switching off your DPS main to a tank alt for raids? Tired of your party members not healing you on a tank? Tired of playing a tank with negative DPS? Wanting to solo some chill raids? Required to play a toaster for meme guild stuff?

This build came from me making a SWF DPS Barb for toaster raids; once I considered Machrotechnic (that part inspired by Tronko's VKF Barb) and Scion of Mechanus, it only took a few design changes to make this DPS/Tank hybrid. It's something like 80% of a DPS crossed with 80% of a tank, and 30% of a healer as long as you only consider toasters. Plenty of flexibility to skew those numbers at your leisure.

Design considerations:
  • For hybrid building your ED split is ~locked - Machro T5 for mantle HP boost, RAmp, Mending Burst, and general melee stuff; Fury for Quick Cutter and Scream/Rage heal; and Draconic for casting while raged and energy sheath.
  • OS is the best Barb tank tree, and it's not a lot worse DPS than FB for SWF (massively worse for THF, but you get much of FB anyway) but you're not locked to it.
  • Weapon is flexible to anything you can use with KT; I used warhammers for novelty (and x10 on 19-20), but just match up with ICrit and you're good.
  • You can easily flex most of the build into tankier or more DPS - max Con instead of Str, take PRR in WF tree, drop FB stuff for tankier choices or drop OS for DPS choices, etc.
  • Gear is flexible based on what you have available, have good boosts on, or how tank/DPS focused you want to be - I did fast/easy on-hand gearing for me (Devil's Infernal Dance + Forbidden Knowledge + Mantle of Suulomades), but it's pretty easy to load whatever direction you want (more PRR/MRR, more Repair stuff, less tank focus, etc).
Self-buffed Reaper stats:
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Leveling order (swap IC:Bludgeoning as applicable, I leveled with VKF T5):
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Enhancements:
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Epic Destinies (swap Draconic type as applicable per raid, mostly Fire/Electric but Acid for DoV):
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Hotbar setup:
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I had a bunch of defensive tools (IUD + hat, Scream, RF pots, Dark Discorp clickies, Sheath + Fire Shield pots, Rage + Blood Feast, heals, etc)
Good heal options (Reconstruct SLA, Mending Burst - competing with QC for epic strike, Scream, Rage, One Spirit)

Pros:
  • Reasonable DPS compared to most melees (incredible when compared with any tank I've seen)
  • Most fun tank I've played by a lot
  • Comfortable quest soloing R4-6
  • Never lost aggro to DPS once I hit - DPS x 6.3 (given 130% standing threat +400% on Intim) plus QC's DoT helps - I lost aggro twice in a month of regular raiding (once to someone hitting Intim, once to burst between my Intim and me hitting the enemy).
  • Anyone that can heal can heal you - I had 270/250 HAmp/RAmp, so everything got decent numbers
  • Shards of Mechanus heals for like a lot in LH/R1 raids
  • You have incredible heals for allied toasters
  • Barb's 14% DR and 100+ SR help a lot for weird stuff
  • You can use clickies and scrolls while raging :D
  • 18ish Rages each giving 1400 temp HP and a solid heal helps a lot for panic spots
Cons:
  • Your in-combat self-healing falls off in mid-Reaper
  • No Quicken Spell means your heals take a while (SLA so they don't get interrupted)
  • Not as much DPS as a full DPS Barb or as much tank as a full tank Barb
  • No shield throw - spread out fights can be hard to grab aggro, although hitting stuff on the way by works pretty well
  • AC being a dump stat means everything hits you, so you eat heals when getting dunked
  • People expect you to be a dedicated tank or dedicated DPS
  • People forget they might need to heal you at bad parts of raids if you're good at surviving the rest of the raid
As far as what it can do:
Solo LN Skellies on first try (incl 27 mins to get past first room; I suspect it could do LH in ~2 hours but that's longer than I want to spend):
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Crush LH LVoD (takes about one heal to get through Orthons; I beat them on R1 but estimate it would take ~an hour for the whole raid which again ugh):
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  • Also soloed LN FoM w/opt (21:32), LN LLoB w/opt (43:16), R1 DoJ (19:43, killed Eudoxia ~entirely during Jibbs after trying to tank Worm spit), got to LH Dryad final boss 3x (raid just wouldn't phase after 4th puzzle, this was about a week before I figured out Bear is mandatory).
  • Can tank both bosses in LH Skellies on-platform during green phase (I usually get ~20% of dino HP off before the party gets there).
  • Tanked three sets of low-mid-skull toaster raids, did about as well as our other (full) tank :)
Anyway, it's definitely not the best hybrid out there but it's pretty accessible and a lot of fun so thought I'd share :)

Character name: Optimus Wide
Classes: 20 Barbarian, E10, L4
Race: Warforged Alignment: True Neutral

Final HP: 6581 Displacement: 0%
Str: 104 Unc Rng: -600 Incorp: 10%
Dex: 28 PRR: 337 AC: 208
Con: 94 MRR: 207 +Healing Amp: 271
Int: 46 Dodge: 3/3 -Healing Amp: 24
Wis: 27 Fort: 351% Repair Amp: 251
Cha: 53 SR: 94 BAB: 25
DR: 2/Adamantine 14/%
Immunities: Sleep, Energy Drain, Nausea, Sickness, Exhaustion, Paralysis, Magic Missiles, Petrification, Curses, Poison, Fear

EnergyResistanceAbsorbance
Acid:7725%
Cold:7725%
Electric:7756%
Evil:023%
Fire:7752%
Force:010%
Negative:025%
Sonic:7723% (+Song-Chime Locket swap)
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Skill Name Ranks Buffed
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Balance 11.0
Intimidate 23.0 104.0
Repair 11.0 76.0
Tumble 11.0 38.0
UMD 11.0 65.0
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Repair Spellpower: 566 Spell Crit Chance: 5% Spell Crit Multi: 15

Damage Stats:

Melee Power: 272.0
Doublestrike: 72%
Fortification Bypass: 77% (+20% for Cracking Attack +15% for Improved Destruction)

Main Hand: Pestle, the Crucible of Bones
On Hit 5.65[1d8+3]+126
Critical 16-18 (5.65[1d8+3]+151) * 6
Critical 19-20 (5.65[1d8+3]+151) * 10

Equipped Gear Set: Standard
ArmorLegendary University Spellshield's DocentDrops in: Party 101, End chest
Lost Purpose: Legendary Devil's Infernal Dance
Green: Sapphire of Defense
BeltLegendary Bladesworn BandolierDrops in: The Bark and the Blade, End chest
Green: Legendary Undying Sapphire
Colorless: +2 Festive Constitution
Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
BootsLegendary Lightning Railworker's BootsDrops in: Grand Theft Aureon, End chest
Green: Sapphire of False Life
Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
BracersDevilscale BracersDrops in: Legendary Vision of Destruction, End chest
Yellow: Topaz of Melee Power
Blue: Sapphire of Good Luck + 3
Mantle of Suulomades
CloakLegendary University Duelist's CloakDrops in: Taken in Hand, End chest
Lost Purpose: Legendary Devil's Infernal Dance
Green: Legendary Swordcrossed Topaz
Colorless: Diamond of Intelligence
GlovesLegendary Absorption GauntletDrops in: Taken in Hand, End chest
Green: Essence of Ultimatum
Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
GogglesLegendary Precision LensesDrops in: White Plume Mountain, End chest, Burket and Snarla's chest
Blue: Sapphire of Healing Amplification
HelmetLegendary University Champion's HelmDrops in: Party 101, End chest
Lost Purpose: Legendary Devil's Infernal Dance
Green: Diamond of Insightful Strength
Colorless: Diamond of Strength
NecklaceLegendary Amulet of the MakersDrops in: Records of the Past, end chest
Blue: Sapphire of Repair Amplification
Ring1Legendary Celestial Amethyst RingDrops in: House of Pain, End chest
Nearly Finished: +13 Charisma
Green: Diamond of Insightful Charisma
Ring2Circle of MalevolenceDrops in: The Mark of Death, warded chest
Incite +120%
Primary Upgrade: Blue Augment Slot
Secondary Upgrade: Green Augment Slot
Blue: Sapphire of Greater Heroism
Green: Legendary Brightbane Emerald
TrinketThe Heart of SuulomadesDrops in: Legendary Vision of Destruction, end chest
Blue: +2 Festive Strength
Green: Legendary Wraithborn Emerald
Yellow: Globe of True Imperial Blood
Mantle of Suulomades
Filigree 1: Sucker Punch/One Against Many +2 Strength(Rare)
Filigree 2: Shards of Mechanus: +10 Repair Amplification(Rare)
Filigree 3: The Blood Feast/Frozen Wanderer +6 PRR(Rare)
Weapon1Pestle, the Crucible of BonesDrops in: Fire Over Morgrave, end chest
+15 Enhancement Bonus
Planar Searing: Warp the Seared
Purple: Feareater
Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Filigree 1: Sucker Punch/One Against Many +2 Strength(Rare)
Filigree 2: The Blood Feast/Frozen Wanderer +6 PRR(Rare)
Filigree 3: The Blood Feast: +1 Strength(Rare)
Filigree 4: The Blood Feast: +3 Melee Power(Rare)
Filigree 5: The Blood Feast: +3 MRR(Rare)
Filigree 6: Shards of Mechanus: +10 Repair Amplification
Filigree 7: Shards of Mechanus: +1 Constitution
Filigree 8: Shards of Mechanus: +3 MRR(Rare)
Filigree 9: The Long Shadow: +1 Attack and Damage(Rare)
Filigree 10: The Long Shadow: +3 Melee Power
Weapon2The Demon EngineDrops in: Fire Over Morgrave, end chest
Dripping with Magma
Rune Arm Imbue - Fire VI
Green: Emerald of Greater Rage
Yellow: Topaz of Swiftness
Legendary Forbidden Knowledge

If you have questions or want more details or anything please ask!
 

Baahb3

Well-known member
I have been messing around with a toaster tank myself. Did not think to go SWF, interesting, or barbarian for that matter. Good write up.
 

Mechgraber

Well-known member
Always been intrigued by the Shards of Mechanus 1d6 heal on hit. With that much repair amp and repair spell power, out of reaper you're getting hit by ~70? Pretty nice even with the 1s cooldown. Vecna gear still holds up very well, and waaaay easier to get ahold of.

And yea runes in skeles are annoying solo, I tend to have my bardbot tank when I run it with mech, also have 3 pew pew accounts that have watchful eye for easy runefinding. Basically just run through, auto-find all the runes, then whichever character doesn't have agro triggers the runes.

BTW I have these the shards repair amp/con in rare if you want, can mail em over. No luck on the long shadow melee power though sadly.
 

SpartanKiller13

Why do I have 522 ddo build files
Always been intrigued by the Shards of Mechanus 1d6 heal on hit. With that much repair amp and repair spell power, out of reaper you're getting hit by ~70? Pretty nice even with the 1s cooldown. Vecna gear still holds up very well, and waaaay easier to get ahold of.

And yea runes in skeles are annoying solo, I tend to have my bardbot tank when I run it with mech, also have 3 pew pew accounts that have watchful eye for easy runefinding. Basically just run through, auto-find all the runes, then whichever character doesn't have agro triggers the runes.

BTW I have these the shards repair amp/con in rare if you want, can mail em over. No luck on the long shadow melee power though sadly.
3.5 x 6.66 x 3.51 = 82 avg which seems about right? But I think it doublestrikes as a weapon proc? It covered my chip heals for a lot of chill raids lol. That and Scion of Mechanus have long been on my list of things to try, just never got around to it... Same with Scion of Shadowfell, but maybe that'll be doable with Dhampir?

100%, also I got +5 MP curse on a Champion's Helm so I bought my first reaper item lol. Not going to give that up for a while...
Yeah I didn't really consider that phase in skellies (or even know where the runes all were) until I was already in, so I learned a bunch about kiting dino and the wall-jumps. Bringing a duo buddy or multibox just to get past that phase seems like huge QoL. Only real hard part was being focused enough for the purple phase, so I think LH should be pretty doable on this build with enough patience; I suspect a ranged build would do a lot better though, so I might try that next time? Or a ranged option on a build similar to this.

Thanks for the offer! I've TR'ed already though, too addicted to the grind; but I think I got full rares on it (and filled my aug slots) but I'm bad at updating my gear planner after the fact, sorry XD
 

Zvdegor

Melee Artificer Freak
Bladedorged with the cheap Reconstruct SLA wud make things even better but need some hearts to do that change.
Great build tho! Love it!
 

Mechgraber

Well-known member
3.5 x 6.66 x 3.51 = 82 avg which seems about right? But I think it doublestrikes as a weapon proc? It covered my chip heals for a lot of chill raids lol. That and Scion of Mechanus have long been on my list of things to try, just never got around to it... Same with Scion of Shadowfell, but maybe that'll be doable with Dhampir?
Yea I usually go Arborea and call it a day but they're all pretty good, I think they balanced those fairly well.
100%, also I got +5 MP curse on a Champion's Helm so I bought my first reaper item lol. Not going to give that up for a while...
Yeah I didn't really consider that phase in skellies (or even know where the runes all were) until I was already in, so I learned a bunch about kiting dino and the wall-jumps.

Same issue the first time I did Skeles, as that part is usually such a breeze in a full raid group. And yea the Devil's Infernal Dance set is great, gets both the doubleshot AND doublestrike as well as the melee AND ranged power so you can use it for a ton of builds.
Bringing a duo buddy or multibox just to get past that phase seems like huge QoL.

Yea, plus can get the optional.
Only real hard part was being focused enough for the purple phase, so I think LH should be pretty doable on this build with enough patience; I suspect a ranged build would do a lot better though, so I might try that next time? Or a ranged option on a build similar to this.
Ranged is nice in a ton of raids yea. Lshroud, LOB/MA especially.
Thanks for the offer! I've TR'ed already though, too addicted to the grind; but I think I got full rares on it (and filled my aug slots) but I'm bad at updating my gear planner after the fact, sorry XD
Ah OK cool, yea just wanted to double check!
 

SpartanKiller13

Why do I have 522 ddo build files
Bladedorged with the cheap Reconstruct SLA wud make things even better but need some hearts to do that change.
Great build tho! Love it!
Huh, apparently the BF Reconstruct SLA is bugged and has MCL20 instead of the usual 15? I just knew they had the same CD/cost so didn't think it was worth considering, but for +5 CL might be worth.

Sorta don't want to give up Scion of Mechanus' RAmp, although if you don't you lose 15 MP via WF tree (vs Arborea). Interesting, probably good for higher Reaper - esp if you gear more Repair/Repair Lore (which I didn't do great at).

NGL clicked on for the title, stayed for the build.
I'll take it!
Yea I usually go Arborea and call it a day but they're all pretty good, I think they balanced those fairly well.

Same issue the first time I did Skeles, as that part is usually such a breeze in a full raid group. And yea the Devil's Infernal Dance set is great, gets both the doubleshot AND doublestrike as well as the melee AND ranged power so you can use it for a ton of builds.

Ah OK cool, yea just wanted to double check!
Same, with the rare Ethereal lol. But the SLA is excellent, so I'm glad I tried.

I thought the dino would tele and give me a window to do stuff, but it does not lol. Also found out the runes unlight over time if you don't lock in a pillar...

Thanks!
Very nice SK. Often thought about dialing back the offence for some tanky goodness on my barb and this helps light the way. 👍
DPS was pretty decent still, give it a shot! Was a lot less of a loss than I was expecting.
 

CrimsonCaiman

New member
I don't know much about Raiding and High Reapers, so I don't know what damage/durability thresholds you're looking out for.

What would be the opportunity cost of going Ravager Capstone (AOE instakill) with T5 Occult? 104 + 1d20 vs Will sounds reasonably consistent to me. I just don't know if it's too big of a hit to boss DPS to be able to clear packs of mobs instantly.
 

Dandonk

Beater of Dead Horses
OK, done with my PLs again on main. Dan is going toaster again!

Though it should've been Jarlen, he used to be my toaster melee. Ah, well, time for the Rise of the Machines!
 

Dandonk

Beater of Dead Horses
Also, love that you're using the Vessel with the Pestle... or maybe the Chalice from the Palace? Never could figure that out :p
 
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