Playable Kobolds?

CellyCharms

CellyCharms

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Alright this is worth sharing, too, though maybe someone else in the thread already has

But there's definitely some weird real animosity towards a fantasy race here, and I'm kinda curious as to where it stems from. I think - and bear with me here - that sometimes it's fun to be annoyed with the little idiot in the party. Let us be the little idiot in the party.

They're irritating as bad guys! But so are a lot of things. I'd take a thousand kobolds over a small handful of incorporeal undead in this game

And as a compromise, I offer to those of you who are angry for some reason a very good kobold-related modern folk song


What's wrong with a little mischief and chaos?
 
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Bjond

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As long as I can kill them, I'm perfectly fine with more kobolds. In fact, spawning random packs of kobolds are a great way to introduce a reason to bring Sorcerers with Meteor Swarm.

Death to vermin!

BTW, I'd find it beyond ironic if they add kobolds with racial features that make them amazing at ranged/thrown combat -- because then I'd make one. This would not stop me from using it to kill other kobolds, though. That's the entire purpose of ranged DPS in DDO.

Oh, and yes, my ranged uses the kobold sentient gem while killing kobolds.
 
ClickFlint

ClickFlint

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Can't believe in the year of our lord 2026 it needs to be said that you can just. Not reply. You can keep your inside thoughts inside.

You don't have to be subtractive or combative at every opportunity. You don't need to inject your venom into every thread.

Kobolds deserve a place among the roster of potential heroes, and you're not being deceived or misled about the reasons why we want to be able to play them. We're not tricking you, we've been honest the entire time.

And you've met that honesty by showing the emptiness of your own heart. Fix your heart, gamer.
 
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dur

dur

Paladin. Disruptor. Since the 1970s
TLDontHaveTheTimeToRead 18 pages.

Kobolds would be ..and interesting choice for playable races.

Aren't they considered vermin? Like, Darwin's Rats? The would have to have envolved some semblance of Intelligence -- more than what it take to speak in basic sentence structure... Rogue is the only class that makes sense, to me.

I'm sorry, has this all been covered before?
 
dur

dur

Paladin. Disruptor. Since the 1970s
Reptiles. Okay, as to INT?
*because the only class that makes sense is rogue.
 
Subtle_Rose

Subtle_Rose

Dances with the daffodils.
ClickFlint said:
As a matter of fact, no!
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Hey, I love them just as much as you, and I would break my 15+ free-to-play-since-day-one streak if they started selling them, but I'm pretty sure that, in-world, a lot of people do think of them as vermin. The only difference being that they're sentient. Even in real life, there are a few hoity toity people who look on other humans as vermin, so people in-world thinking of them as vermin isn't as much of a stretch as it should be.

On a more pleasant note, do you think they could make Kobolds by next year? I was really hoping that they would be added for Year of the Dragon, or Natural 20, but oh well.
 
Bjond

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dur said:
Aren't they considered vermin? Like, Darwin's Rats?
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Yes, they're vermin; they compete for the same ecological niche as the Giant Rat. They're incredibly invasive. Giant Rats are ubiquitous in most MMOs, but are endangered in DDO entirely because some dev's pet Kobold escaped into the sewers.

BTW, contrary to popular belief, Kobolds don't carry diseases that can infect sentient races, which is a plus over giant rats. OTH, giant rats don't kidnap, imprison, torture, and murder people (eg. Arlos & Venn).
 
ClickFlint

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Contessor said:
Thri-Kreen would be preferrable to me over Kobold.
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Not saying it wouldn't be cool to play a weird bug but there's two problems there, one: they're not from Eberron (which wasn't a problem for Tabaxi or Dragonborn but I digress) and the animations and armor would be several times more difficult for the devs than just adding kobolds who are from Eberron and have plenty of player friendly lore via Keith Baker, a point that none of the haters have attempted to address because they only want to throw eggs, not hatch them.
 
ClickFlint

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Not to "um, actually" your "um, actually" but in D&D terms, specifically the 3e-ish rules that spawned DDO's mechanics, vermin is a creature category and it includes more than just rats but, notably, not kobolds, troglodytes or sahuagin.
 
dur

dur

Paladin. Disruptor. Since the 1970s
[OT, but, rats make excellent, if not short-lived pets. Short-lived because the ones you get a pet-store are probably products of ... and they devolop tumors rather quickly] Rats make the best pets. Just gotta get over the tail. and they love to clean your Ears and they don't **** [***#2] or pee or you, like mice, etc.

*they censor **** now?? Dear God, what HAVE we DONE?
 
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Subtle_Rose

Subtle_Rose

Dances with the daffodils.
ClickFlint said:
With a sky full of smoke that smells distinctly like a melange of dozens of homes smoldering, I look up at a starless night sky and think how much improved my experience would be if I could play a little kobold who had never seen a star, and gets to on Korthos.
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That would be beautiful. *sniffles* I hope I get to see that happen in a campaign sometime.
I'll have to work on coming up with a Kobold character next, as soon as I'm done writing down all my other character ideas.
 
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