Possible build for my wife? 14/4/2 SF/warlock/FVS

[dbik123]

So, my wife plays with me about 20% of the time I play. She likes tabaxi/trailblazer stick builds and she likes to hit things with a stick. However, I need her to help keep me alive while I literally do everything else. We've been trying to come up with something she enjoys playing, while limiting the "effort" required to help contribute doing anything but mindless DPS. We were thinking of a 14/4/2 SF stick build using tier 5 RS tree, Tier 4 ES tree and picking up haste and trance from FVS. Remaining points (not many) in SF. Destiny will probably be Flowers as a main. I know the dps will be "not great" but the healing from RS and the automatic temp hp from 4 levels of lock every 5 seconds from her will be great at a mindless contribution while she hits things. lol What are your thoughts on a build like this? Worthless or worth a shot?

 

[Tera]

My thoughts are:
Do you want your wife to play more or less with you? I started playing DDO with my husband right after it first came out. He made me a cleric (never played a video game before) I hated it and I sucked at it and felt bad when someone died!! If I had remained as a healer I would not be playing the game today!!! I moved on to play other classes and love playing caster build and killing stuff! Maybe you should adjust your build so you can heal yourself and let her play what she loves instead of being forced to keep you alive.
Again just my thoughts..

 

[dbik123]

My thoughts are:
Do you want your wife to play more or less with you? I started playing DDO with my husband right after it first came out. He made me a cleric (never played a video game before) I hated it and I sucked at it and felt bad when someone died!! If I had remained as a healer I would not be playing the game today!!! I moved on to play other classes and love playing caster build and killing stuff! Maybe you should adjust your build so you can heal yourself and let her play what she loves instead of being forced to keep you alive.
Again just my thoughts..

I appreciate your reply. The build is her idea, she asked me to post it. She wouldn't be the main healer (hence no "guilt") and she's been playing the game with me in various roles for the past decade. But thank you for your thoughts. "Forced"...thats a laugh.

 

[norriskwondo]

She should definitely go for the Jessica Rabbit build. lol Rogue Acrobat has rally good quarterstaff enhancements, and if you do two levels of monk, you get extra feats. If you go for robes you can also used the monk stances. Super quick and effective with lock pick too. If you use drow you get shuriken expertise and boost in intelligence and charisma to help with rogue skills

 

[dbik123]

She should definitely go for the Jessica Rabbit build. lol Rogue Acrobat has rally good quarterstaff enhancements, and if you do two levels of monk, you get extra feats. If you go for robes you can also used the monk stances. Super quick and effective with lock pick too. If you use drow you get shuriken expertise and boost in intelligence and charisma to help with rogue skills

If Positive energy aura isn't worth it, she'll probably go something like 15/5 sacred fist dragonlord, picking up qstaffs as favored once we reach epics. Then we'll know dps wont be an issue and she can keep positive energy burst. I know this would be way better dps and CC for her, and I'll work temp hp into my build either via warlock or warchanter. Just kicking ideas around. Thanks very much for your response!

 

[droid327]

If Positive energy aura isn't worth it, she'll probably go something like 15/5 sacred fist dragonlord, picking up qstaffs as favored once we reach epics. Then we'll know dps wont be an issue and she can keep positive energy burst. I know this would be way better dps and CC for her, and I'll work temp hp into my build either via warlock or warchanter. Just kicking ideas around. Thanks very much for your response!

14/5/1 monk gives up zeal but gains stances, 15% staff speed, 3 mp 1 imbue die 10 hamp 10 pos for 5 ap, plus a bonus feat. Think that's definitely worthwhile.

 

[Pilgrim]

However, I need her to help keep me alive while I literally do everything else.

This is the issue. Let her play anything she wants thats fun - there are tuns of intresting and fun stick builds. You should play something that doesn't need her to keep you alive.

 

[dbik123]

This is the issue. Let her play anything she wants thats fun - there are tuns of intresting and fun stick builds. You should play something that doesn't need her to keep you alive.

We're a team, dude. Thanks for the marriage advice, but I was here looking for build tips. We both try to play in ways that compliment the other, like any good duo.

 

[Pardoner]

I'd listen to what the Droid says on this occasion.

 

[dbik123]

I'd listen to what the Droid says on this occasion.

I guess it really comes down to whether or not Healing Aura is worth it? If it isn't, then clearly the dragonborn build is the better option, with positive energy burst being the spot heal for us both. I have cure serious and cure light, mass on my build to keep her topped up.

 

[droid327]

I guess it really comes down to whether or not Healing Aura is worth it? If it isn't, then clearly the dragonborn build is the better option, with positive energy burst being the spot heal for us both. I have cure serious and cure light, mass on my build to keep her topped up.

Healing Aura is OK but not great, and definitely not worth going T5 if you're not trying to build a full-on healbot

But if you just want passive group burst heal while you both DPS, and she already likes Trailblazer stick builds, why not just go full Trailblazer and use the Shintao aoe heal strike and healing shield? The AOE does up to 26d4 healing every 9 secs, that's better than Pos Burst and not charge-limited either. The healing shield keeps you both topped off from minor damage. Your Cure Serious should also be enough to keep yourself healed up too, if you're not duoing in high skulls.

 

[dbik123]

Healing Aura is OK but not great, and definitely not worth going T5 if you're not trying to build a full-on healbot

But if you just want passive group burst heal while you both DPS, and she already likes Trailblazer stick builds, why not just go full Trailblazer and use the Shintao aoe heal strike and healing shield? The AOE does up to 26d4 healing every 9 secs, that's better than Pos Burst and not charge-limited either. The healing shield keeps you both topped off from minor damage. Your Cure Serious should also be enough to keep yourself healed up too, if you're not duoing in high skulls.

We'll try that out. She's got a lot of time as a cleric but also likes q-staves, so she is trying to find a build where she wasn't "expected" to heal while we group with others and could kinda just focus on dps and heal passively. Your idea has merit though! She enjoys the support healer role, but also likes qstaff animations. Just trying to blend the two.

 

[dbik123]

Healing Aura is OK but not great, and definitely not worth going T5 if you're not trying to build a full-on healbot

But if you just want passive group burst heal while you both DPS, and she already likes Trailblazer stick builds, why not just go full Trailblazer and use the Shintao aoe heal strike and healing shield? The AOE does up to 26d4 healing every 9 secs, that's better than Pos Burst and not charge-limited either. The healing shield keeps you both topped off from minor damage. Your Cure Serious should also be enough to keep yourself healed up too, if you're not duoing in high skulls.

May I ask what your destiny split is for the 14/5/1 build? The more I delve into that the better it sounds!

 

[droid327]

We'll try that out. She's got a lot of time as a cleric but also likes q-staves, so she is trying to find a build where she wasn't "expected" to heal while we group with others and could kinda just focus on dps and heal passively. Your idea has merit though! She enjoys the support healer role, but also likes qstaff animations. Just trying to blend the two.

May I ask what your destiny split is for the 14/5/1 build? The more I delve into that the better it sounds!

Yeah that's the benefit of Light Monk. You just keep Hands of Healing/Healing Shield in your attack rotation and it will provide a lot of "hands off" healing. And Henshin is a much better tree for Qstaff DPS since the Monk update.

I was just playing around with a 14 Fist/5 Dlord/1 Monk Trailblazer on Lama today, in fact. Its very effective when you get your Roar DC reliable. Kinda squishy otherwise. I went T5 Crusader, Fury for QC, and Angel for mantle and wings. I was thinking for solo, but that would provide two other passive aoe burst heals for a duo too, Ex Smite and Wings, plus auto-Consecration when you fall below 50%, which heals and buffs you both (assuming you're both in melee range). I was soloing L34 R2-3 content with suboptimal gear though, so it should be plenty fine for duo

 

[dbik123]

Yeah that's the benefit of Light Monk. You just keep Hands of Healing/Healing Shield in your attack rotation and it will provide a lot of "hands off" healing. And Henshin is a much better tree for Qstaff DPS since the Monk update.

I was just playing around with a 14 Fist/5 Dlord/1 Monk Trailblazer on Lama today, in fact. Its very effective when you get your Roar DC reliable. Kinda squishy otherwise. I went T5 Crusader, Fury for QC, and Angel for mantle and wings. I was thinking for solo, but that would provide two other passive aoe burst heals for a duo too, Ex Smite and Wings, plus auto-Consecration when you fall below 50%, which heals and buffs you both (assuming you're both in melee range). I was soloing L34 R2-3 content with suboptimal gear though, so it should be plenty fine for duo

Thanks for that write-up! I try to build around intimidate and run tankier dps builds, or ones with some good "oh ****" buttons at least, so she shouldn't be taking too many hits. I appreciate your thoughts on the matter!

 

[unbongwah]

We'll try that out. She's got a lot of time as a cleric but also likes q-staves, so she is trying to find a build where she wasn't "expected" to heal while we group with others and could kinda just focus on dps and heal passively. Your idea has merit though! She enjoys the support healer role, but also likes qstaff animations. Just trying to blend the two.

Does it have to be a paladin / Sacred Fist? Starting to sound like she'd be better off with a clonk like cleric 17 / monk 3 with tier-5 Radiant Servant and War domain for Holy Sword. Or possibly a drunk: monk 6 / druid 14 with T5 Henshin running in elemental form, dark path with Shadows Cannot Exist Without Light.

 

[dbik123]

Yeah that's the benefit of Light Monk. You just keep Hands of Healing/Healing Shield in your attack rotation and it will provide a lot of "hands off" healing. And Henshin is a much better tree for Qstaff DPS since the Monk update.

I was just playing around with a 14 Fist/5 Dlord/1 Monk Trailblazer on Lama today, in fact. Its very effective when you get your Roar DC reliable. Kinda squishy otherwise. I went T5 Crusader, Fury for QC, and Angel for mantle and wings. I was thinking for solo, but that would provide two other passive aoe burst heals for a duo too, Ex Smite and Wings, plus auto-Consecration when you fall below 50%, which heals and buffs you both (assuming you're both in melee range). I was soloing L34 R2-3 content with suboptimal gear though, so it should be plenty fine for duo

So, I hadn't read up on the changes to monk. Its not a class I ever enjoyed playing, but with the semi-recent rework, I think we're gonna try 14/6 monk/warlock (ES) for her, q-staff, wis-based trailblazer. Pretty sure this will check all the boxes on what she's looking for. Thanks very much for the help and I'll update on how it goes if the game ever starts working again!

 

[dbik123]

Does it have to be a paladin / Sacred Fist? Starting to sound like she'd be better off with a clonk like cleric 17 / monk 3 with tier-5 Radiant Servant and War domain for Holy Sword. Or possibly a drunk: monk 6 / druid 14 with T5 Henshin running in elemental form, dark path with Shadows Cannot Exist Without Light.

No it doesn't have to be sacred fist. We were looking for a way to reach passive heals with qstaff while still primarily doing dps. Going through it the past week or so, she wants to try 14/6 monk/ES warlock with divine crusader as a destiny with me doing a 13/5/2 bard/DL/rogue build. Gonna be lots of temp hp flying around!

 

[dbik123]

Yeah that's the benefit of Light Monk. You just keep Hands of Healing/Healing Shield in your attack rotation and it will provide a lot of "hands off" healing. And Henshin is a much better tree for Qstaff DPS since the Monk update.

I was just playing around with a 14 Fist/5 Dlord/1 Monk Trailblazer on Lama today, in fact. Its very effective when you get your Roar DC reliable. Kinda squishy otherwise. I went T5 Crusader, Fury for QC, and Angel for mantle and wings. I was thinking for solo, but that would provide two other passive aoe burst heals for a duo too, Ex Smite and Wings, plus auto-Consecration when you fall below 50%, which heals and buffs you both (assuming you're both in melee range). I was soloing L34 R2-3 content with suboptimal gear though, so it should be plenty fine for duo

Hello Droid!

My wife and I have played 3 (me 2, her 1) versions of the idea we have for her to be for a while at cap. We have settled on at least 15 sacred fist with T5 in radiant aura. Its also important she has 13 points in sacred defender to get the 25% bonus to HP. The warlock 4 splash is a total dud...we tried it, it sucked pretty bad.

My question for you, if you're kind enough to help us out, is how do we squeeze the most dps out of the rest of the 5 levels and roughly 36ap? No reason to go with DL since we're T5 in radiant servant I think?

Appreciate your input so far and hopefully you can guide us to victory over ddo once and for all!

Thinking maybe 4 monk 1 cleric? Trying to get a CHA based Trance as well as haste at a minimum. 18/1/1 might also be an option, picking up haste from VKF...but that's 8ap just to pick up haste. CHA based, qstaff, probably Trailblazer race. She has racial 5AP available. Ki has been an issue for us both on the builds we've tried...but incinerating wave with the light portion add-on is pretty nice.

Also note to everyone thinking I'm "making" my wife heal, this is HER build thoughts, I'm just the one posting them!

 

[droid327]

Yeah 15/ is pointless if you're not using the other 5 levels to get access to premium T5s like DLord

The problem is you just dont have any AP left to augment the build concept. ~35 RS, ~23 SF, 13 SD only leaves you 9 points, so yeah 18/1 monk/1 fvs seems like the play there. 4 warsoul for trance, 4 henshin for core and 15% speed, 1 shintao for the hamp/pos, and just accept that haste boost is the odd piece out.