Proposal - Q&A for coming 64-bit project

Titus Ovid

Titus Ovid

Mover and Shaker
Dear Tolero,

this 64-bit server is a big thing for the game. To counteract the assumptions and misinformation on this project you personally should do a Q&A on this. Someone higher up than Cordo who has more insights into the trials and tribulations should use the overwhelming feedback you get on several platforms to prepare a Q&A. Where you do this is not that important. That you do it, is vital.
Make sure you post a written version on your official forum with the most pressing questions and your answers.

Why you ask? Right now the information is running rampant. Every bit and piece gets commented on and is taken out of context and people are angry and annoyed and are seriously considering quitting the game. I sadly have to say more than in general. This is not a good state, you should prevent these kind of things.
I guess, only you or Steel know the big picture. So sit down, analyse the feedback and comments, filter out the most pressing questions and answer them!
Will you get reactions? Of course you will. Will those be positive ones? Probably not. But it is still the way to go. Because those reactions are heartfelt and passionate and true. And your attempt to diffuse this and react to concerns will be appreciated.

Last point: It should be done in a timely manner. Because the longer assumptions fly around the more they fester.

Thank you for the consideration.

Cheers,
Titus
 
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noddy

noddy

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I wish the devs would’ve kept this under wraps and just surprised us with it. Or announced it like a patch release notes, day prior kind of thing. The general page on the forums is filled with posts abt 64 bit servers and myth drop rates. The new DDO discord is the same.
 
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Cordovan said:
Eventually there will be a full article/landing page for the server, and we'll have a lot more information in the coming weeks. We are currently planning to have Severlin visit me on Twitch on Friday to chat a bit about what's up.
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So just to confirm, there's no feedback that SSG is willing to take on board or implement?
 
Zess

Zess

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Vox said:
So just to confirm, there's no feedback that SSG is willing to take on board or implement?
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I assume this is after first testing, and they are probably looking to test specific things... So maybe? But probably now is not the right time

(Usually the objective is get "thing" running, once thing is running, let's refine,make changes and improve, thing being the 64bit server)
 
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Titus Ovid

Titus Ovid

Mover and Shaker
Cordovan said:
Eventually there will be a full article/landing page for the server, and we'll have a lot more information in the coming weeks. We are currently planning to have Severlin visit me on Twitch on Friday to chat a bit about what's up.
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That is good news. I urge you to NOT make this an idle chat but to prepare. Most folks are worried about procedure and the thinning of the population by yet another server.
And I hope there will be a post on this forum about the facts in that chat from SSG.

Cheers,
Titus
 
Mesmerin

Mesmerin

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Drunken.dx said:
Can't wait for it.
This rumor mongering about 64 bit servers is getting tiresome
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Agreed, the clickbait title on the other thread isn't helping, lot of people reading the first post, not realising that it's explained later on in the thread that it's a test server and more details will be coming, then posting their own rant on the subject.
There's a lot of stuff to be mad at SSG about, this isn't one of them though.
 
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Leumas Reyemreggin

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noddy said:
I wish the devs would’ve kept this under wraps and just surprised us with it. Or announced it like a patch release notes, day prior kind of thing. The general page on the forums is filled with posts abt 64 bit servers and myth drop rates. The new DDO discord is the same.
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the Main problem was the way it was announced tbh
 
Owlbear

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noddy said:
I wish the devs would’ve kept this under wraps and just surprised us with it. Or announced it like a patch release notes, day prior kind of thing. The general page on the forums is filled with posts abt 64 bit servers and myth drop rates. The new DDO discord is the same.
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That was kind of impossible... Already started when LotRO got their 64 bit servers. People were assuming and posting already about the DDO 64 bit servers because of that.
 
Putti

Putti

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Here's the transcipt taken directly from the video if anyone prefers to get it that way. This is the same text as YouTube uses for their closed captions, so don't expect them to be perfect :)

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all right hello everyone welcome to Fridays at 4 on twitch.tv/ stream I'm your community

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manager Kurt oen and I have a special guest with me today we're going to be talking about oh I I don't know

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something like 64 things so let's get our executive producer Severin on uh to

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welcome uh Sev to the live stream and uh uh nice to have you on here this week

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how you doing I'm doing great what's going on well we we started some rumors over

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about the past week or so uh about a little thing called a 64-bit server and

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so we're here today on today's Fridays at 4 at least the start of it here to talk a little bit about what we are

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actually doing so uh so so let's do that huh we have a 64bit Ser first of all

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whoever whoever was talking about that on the Discord you need to talk to them

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because like anybody who just appeared talked about that and then didn't follow up is like I hear they might have even

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said something on Twitter but that's okay yeah so but that's fine that's what

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we're here we're we're we're excited about this project and it's been in the works uh for a little while here and so

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it's really nice to be able to start to talk about it today we'll have a lot more information in the coming weeks but

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we did want to kind of uh peel back the curtain a little a little bit and and let you know what we're working on

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so sure all right so um yeah okay so first of all let's put to rest rumors

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that like this is not a Genesis 64 or Commodore 64 uh Port okay like when we

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say 64 that's not what we mean I'm down by the way I might even be

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able to get us a floppy disc writer or something like that so y I believe if anyone could get a

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flop disc riter would be you sure let's talk about it so

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obviously people have seen who play both games have seen that we've had new servers on the loo side that are 64bit

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and it's not just 64-bit it's that the 64-bit allowed us

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to have a caching technology with our code that has we were hoping would

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improve performance and on the ler side we saw some big changes and the people

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on those servers um did report that it was much better um on our side uh we are

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looking at 64-bit servers on ddl how best to use that

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technology uh so right now we're hoping to have a

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we're in the final throws of getting a server up into our internal

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test that not only is 64-bit on the code side but has uh much larger capacity Hardware wise in

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order to help with this um with these systems however we don't have the

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capability to know we want to just deploy this to all our servers because we have to see how it works over

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time we have to do a lot of evaluation behind the scenes because these are time and money intensive before we want to

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make the way to do that so like loto we're going to introduce one new server

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uh for now to test it will be VIP only otherwise the cues will just get too large but we're also running a uh an

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event on there that is sort of our answer to hardcore it'll be a special

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event but one of the issues that we had with like a lot of the people ask why

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aren't you doing hardcore anymore right one of the issues with hardcore is that once everybody who likes to make groups

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and stuff goes over to the hardcore server it has an effect of making the normal servers feel

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uh empty and the other thing is that sometimes we do new stuff on the hardcore server but there are people who

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actually want to participate in the content but they don't like the hardcore Vibe and so we have a new event called

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lanterns in the mist and the lanterns in the Mist is cool because when you go over at first

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level you have to claim one or more lanterns and then you equip it there are some lanterns that you can

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equip and if you die you don't lose progress there are other lanterns that once you equip if you ever die all the

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lanterns in your inventory and the and that are equipped are destroyed and so because of that you have to get to a

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certain level or have to get to certain goals much like hardcore in order to in

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order to proceed on that but one of the things that I think will be cool is if

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you're doing the lantern event where it's a oneandone uh a hardcore Lantern event isn't that your character dies

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it's the the Lantern's destroyed so I don't want to call it hardcore but it has the same feel to it your friends who

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aren't participating in that can help and help get you through Dungeons and

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play with you you don't have to go through the tragedy of losing your character and kind of losing uh the the

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Lantern progress if you don't want to in fact they can be working on their own lanterns that aren't destroyed and

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travel with people who have uh the lanterns in case they don't want the the

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uh that kind of play so so this lanterns in the Mist event uh

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it really has two sides to it a a more optin you know kick my butts side and a

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more casual I want to take part and and get some cool things side to it is what we're saying here well the other thing

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too is that uh the lantern is opt in entirely meaning if you want to try this

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new server because it's performant and have a new experience because it will be like any hardcore it will be players

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will start fresh but if you want to just play on that server you don't have to claim a lantern at all yeah but yeah and

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there's multiple lanterns there'll be five lanterns of each kind so as an example one Lantern will be the you have

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to get to level 20 and then that Lantern will be solved and you can kind of get

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some goodies about it and then uh other lanterns will have other things that you

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have to accomplish mostly revolving around while you while you have a lantern on or if a party member does it

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will reveal these Mist Walkers that are dangerous um I'm s I'm sure that people

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who have played in hardcore are no strangers to having dangerous things kind of appear but they can the lanterns

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will reveal them and then as you kill them you'll make progress on your

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lanterns and so uh I think it'll be very cool in terms of that and these enemies are just

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throughout regular Dungeons and your regular questing experience yes but you're going to have

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to progress somewhat going through the game you can't

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just it the progression isn't as simple as just keep killing things until they

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appear does that make sense right you're actually seeing them they're they're kind of invisible in the

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world and you're revealing them with these Special lanterns that you're acquiring yeah right but the exciting

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stuff about that is behind the scenes our games are have

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this proprietary code that has its own virtual engine in

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the game and one of the complex things about working on the games is that code exists in a C++ base which exists on

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Hardware that's also virtualized and so the memory management becomes

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uh complex this new technology caches all of that inner code so that it

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doesn't have to page in and out and before this we couldn't do it because we didn't have the memory space for it and

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we found that it's very performant on motro we expect there to be performance increases on ddl do we think that this

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will like solve all performance no like like many things um you know they DDO is

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a complex game but I think that if you look at the loto Community the those

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servers really are like much better and we have already made some strides in

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performance so I we are hoping uh that that is the case but one of the nice

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things is sometime next week we want to have a big we we want to call upon the community to come in we'll announce it

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probably next week early sometime a night that could be the week after could be the just to put a cave out let me let

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me interrupt my own executive producer and say could be the week after maybe I don't know could be next week though it

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could could be next week it depends on whe whether we find once we get the server up for finding problems um but

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once we make the call we want a whole bunch of people to flood in as many people as they can so the initial call will not be VIP only it will be free

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transfer bring your expensive characters over um you know like the ones that that

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are level high Lev mini trees do raids do the things that are normal really

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help us try to bring down the servers performance and we want to get as many people on there as possible so we're

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asking the community to jump on um yeah it'll be a it'll be a stress

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test and and we really do want too now I don't know if the lanterns in the M event will be available for that first

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test my I had heard some things that maybe it wasn't okay okay nor do we want it to be the first test is about

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stressing out the 64 bet technology so we want people to copy over it's a copy

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not transfer I know I said transfer I apologize for that copy over their High Lev characters kind of Bop through raids

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or do highle content that you would expect to try to see what the what it

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looks like and then we'll do a database wipe later yep before it goes live so for

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this yeah first preview you'll and for the previews for the server you'll probably be using the lania game

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launcher so if you've gone to any of our lamania previews uh and have that

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launcher in place instead of lania which will still be there um there will also

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be then this new server uh when the preview is available and you'll be able to log into that which will be the

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64-bit server one interesting thing if we are able to get this out next week is we're working toward a second raid

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preview on the traditional lonia preview game server as well so there's a chance

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uh if everything falls into place in the coming days that the raid could get a preview on the regular world and then

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you could turn around within say a couple of days or something like that and then run it on the 64-bit side and

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have a real time comparison to some between our our new raid coming here with with before and after yeah yeah MH

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so and that's the kind of thing we'd love to to get feedback on I'm sure so

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sure um yeah like okay so answering more

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questions first we have to get a successful 64-bit server out once this

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server is successful we've had a chance to look at it yes the idea would be we

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would open up new 64-bit ser servers with this new technology with new hardware and open those up to other

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other transfers but that still a ways off because the process to uh prepare one of

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these to set it up to re rework the DAT the data center in order to make room

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for them will be isn't time intensive more time intensive than I'd like and so

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other servers will follow but not you won't see that turn around very quick

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this is not an event server in the sense of Hardcore being a 90day experience or

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something like that the intention is to keep this world open is my understanding yes in fact this is

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actually longer because there are bits about this uh event that will go uh into

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the new year so but the event could kind of come and

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go from the world yeah yeah so I don't want to talk too much

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about the future because I I need to see how this performs because like I said there's a cost the way I Envision it is

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let's say this server is really good and people are going on and they they run raids and they see less lag and it's

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noticeable what we would do is instead of trying to pick what servers to move and what servers not we would open new

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servers and then open free transfer but to do that we would have to have Guild transfer which we don't have now and

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then eventually the people would move from the old servers into these new Consolidated servers um so that we'd

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have mega servers as I talked about a while ago and we'd open it up um so that

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people could go in that way we don't have uh we people can make grouping we

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would never want to do that now because if you are on a smaller server it might be because you like avoiding the lag of

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a larger server if we have performance servers then the consolidation of players is less of an issue in terms of

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performance yeah do we we don't have a name for the

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server yet do I'm sure someone's got a name for it I haven't heard the name of the server yet do you okay the new one

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yes is it still in process no I think I'm pretty sure we're set on Cormier oh okay okay well there

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you go yeah yeah yeah but that's not that I would I wouldn't uh I don't know that I would

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talk about that until it officially is in print but yeah that's what we're

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talking about okay all right sounds good yeah um so the new the new

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um yeah so the idea would be that there would be fewer servers that could hold many

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more players so that you can find groups easier um we've been but to do that

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there's some things that have to happen we have to prove that the performance can handle more players we have to have

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um Guild transfer and there's some character transfer things where Small Things uh small things don't go over

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like monster manual for instance we have to solve those if we're going to expect people to transfer from old 32-bit

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servers onto the 64-bit servers we have to make sure nothing's Left Behind if that makes sense like right now there

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you get most of your stuff on the transfer but there's definitely some things that the players uh would worry about this

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strategy would would you'd have to make sure that everything came over like I think there are times when you lose

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certain amounts in pets that can't happen if we to do yeah creature companion stable would be one there's a bunch I mean there's

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honestly there's a a full checklist I'm sure we could could come up with so

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yeah but these are things that we would solve before that would be a thing we

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would proceed with so we have a solution yeah uh I wanted to go back just a

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little bit we tend to try to separate out the games in our discussions when

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I'm on DDO stream I talk to D and Dragons online when I'm on the other game side I talk about that game and we

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tend not to compare contrast and talk about the games too much and uh

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sometimes when we do people who are into one of the games but maybe less so the other tend to get into our chat and be

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like I can't believe you're talking about lotro or something on the ddl side or vice versa and that but there's a

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reason we're doing it this time in terms of our comparison and that's why I wanted to bring it up as a conversation

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point which is that um part of what we're doing here on the Dungeons and Dragons online site is I think it's safe

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to say a bit of a reaction to the initial work that we've done on the project over on the Lord of the Rings

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Online the success we've seen um since that opened on August 1 and our desire

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to want to bring that to ddias as soon as we can really sure so

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essentially the only reason I bring up lro is the reason I'm excited is that we

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expected we expect in incremental changes in uh performance and players

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see it some players actually say oh this is a little bit better but I'm still seeing these lag spikes and some people

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are like a my high level character is still not getting the performance I want

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but the change in perception of this technology on another game kind of

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proves out that the technology and the caching actually had a big effect and since the underpinnings of the game are

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not the same but somewhat similar we're hoping to get a a a similar effect in

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this game meaning we now have live experience that shows that this could

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make a big impact that's the only reason I'm bringing that up is that like uh

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this this uh the 64bit strategy has shown success and now

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we're bringing it over to this game if that makes sense my understanding about one of the

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pillars that needs additional work before we're able to really just open up

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character transfers to a 64bit world is a issue that I've heard you talk about

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called serialization and I think it's probably worth bringing up that the 64-bit server itself is is meant to

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provide an improved game experience um but there's several pillars that we're tackling right now in terms of game

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performance Improvement and one of those is kind of your character data footprint is that a safe way to describe a

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serialization issue like that yeah serialization is the character data footprint and the ability to move it

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from uh place to place uh so let's talk about that

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usually the character data footprint comes into play in two ways one is I'm

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loading into a new area we want that to be as short as possible but if it takes

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you longer to load into a dungeon um that usually isn't the same thing as having like a spike in the middle uh but

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it could cause it if somebody else is loading into a dungeon on the same executable server code that you're on

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but the second thing is if you get moved from place to place which can sometimes happen everybody has to move off of the

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server and onto a new server for whatever reason both of those things can happen but I think that one of the

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things that happens is when there is once when there is one of these uh

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serializations then um you can be in a position where you

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have a pH you take care of the phone or whatever if you need to it's fine I apologize yeah yeah I just I didn't know

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where I'd put it yeah um so I think that one of the things is

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when you serialize it has to load this code in order to figure out all the things you're you're holding and what

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we're finding on the lowo side what we're suspecting um as we look at the code is

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that we think that when you when you come into a new server there are things in your there there's code it needs for

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your specific character that then has to load and that's already in memory and so

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we're hoping to see uh some changes some some improvements there like we like we

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did and that would that would help because if we if we were to let's just

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say open up this first server to everybody for character transfers of historically veteran characters that

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would potentially degrade The Experience not just for the the gains that you would see with the fresh 64bit server

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but it it could impact other people too sure but we'll see like I think a

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good test will be getting as many people with their big you know highle characters to test on our test one of

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our and we'll do more than one of these tests but we want to try to kind of flood the service for

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that all right so I'm sure we have plenty of questions

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there is an interesting thing that for some of our players may be a slight downside though the new server will not

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be in our current data center the new server is going to be in Las Vegas which will be very

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interesting so what'll happen is not only is a new server but it's a new data

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center which means that if you're on the East Coast I believe your ping will be like slightly higher 15

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maybe that's true

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uh yes the server will still be linked to your live game account and your DDO

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store purchase history now not for this stress test preview that'll be in the lania environment which is different

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from the live game environment but when we actually release this server to the live game worlds and people can start

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logging in and doing it yeah everything that you've purchased that's an account unlock in the DDO store that you

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purchase for your account like expansion purchases and all that kind kind of thing it's all just going to be there uh

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for you the only things that wouldn't would be character specific purchases or things that you would need to purchase

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on every server and same with like your VIP benefits and all that sort of thing you it's VIP access but you will carry

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over all those benefits so yeah so yeah I'm super excited about

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it I I'm super excited to see uh the players playing on new hardware I want to see what happens with the performance

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obviously ly we're all like waiting on that and and working on that like I said

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the the process behind it is complex it requires acquiring new hardware and

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expanding the capabilities of what a single single Surfer can do but in the long term I I would also be excited

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about having a lot of players on you know many fewer performant things slowly

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moving their characters from the existing servers over so they can group so the service will seem alive and that

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like as you're doing your TR Loop or end game you that you can find more people and maybe uh different guilds will be S

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yeah uh it's true that uh uh so Lich wants to know when will our stress test

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be don't say it's a weekday I'm I I think it's going to be a weekday I'm sorry about that but but at night yeah

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we need it to be yeah yeah so uh as for EU right now uh

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we'll we'll see I don't know that I can justify the cost of an EU server right

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now uh when I look at the numbers of it uh for a couple reasons one is I love

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ouru players and I want you to have a good experience too but

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um yeah the the EU data center is you know having an EU option is even more

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expensive so I'd have to look at the numbers again so but let's see how this one does

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I know extra ping is hard on European players but also not having 10sec lag

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spikes is pretty sweet as

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well so yeah so I think I think that's really cool the I was looking at the art

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for the the lanterns so the lantern gets equipped in your trinket slot right mhm and the and

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there's the art for it of these cool like because when we're talking about uh

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lanterns in the Mist the mist of Raven LOF Mists right like we haven't brought

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that part in I wasn't sure if we were ready to say that that this is uh

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associated with ravenloft this event and the lanterns are all like these stained glass horror looking lanterns they look

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really cool yep

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yep I don't know when they're going to see that players aie players may actually be better because won't they be

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coming through California I EU comes across to the east

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coast but aie may come Pacific

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wise yeah I don't know I'm sure Australian players who are

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used to to pinging the servers would know which better than I which direction they go but

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uh okay uh I mean I think we've kind of covered the news of what we can say here

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today we are you know today working to get this server up and running in a preview environment for for that first

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preview so you know as soon as that work gets done we're going to be getting in there ourselves and kicking the tires

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and see how things look and and assuming things stay on track we'll have a lot more to say about this

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uh I would say in the coming weeks but perhaps even first half of next week

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we'll see uh when will the test

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be yeah everybody is like don't say it you'll jinx it so

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yeah so that's cool um yeah uh so hopefully this will be really cool for players I really like the Lyn the Miss

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Thing I think it it solves a lot of the issues that we saw with hardcore and and

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I think that the players who like hardcore will have that vibe to it moving in and and and a fresh you know a

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fresh server experience where they have they have to make sure that they don't die um so it'll be

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scary uh yeah cool uh yes night Rebels will be

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coming uh soonish I think I mean we're pretty close to announcing that I think

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I think that should be set for generally first or maybe second week of

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October I think it depends on when our patches maybe but uh it'll be throughout

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most of October is the answer uh unless we have a few more

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questions more Raven L stuff I I I I am

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reasonably confident that we will you will see more ra more substantial Raven love com content if that's what you like

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I I have nothing to announce now now but like we also like that so we we are

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eager to do some more Raven life stuff I don't want to uh take too much

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of your time here today uh seev so I think I do have a few other things for

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the stream as well we're going to show off the Prismatic Dragon cosmetic armor

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that people are going to get next week with Year of the Dragon here once we're done so and then we'll be heading in

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game and maybe do a little mythr or something as well we'll see we'll see what we end up doing here today kind of

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depends how many questions we get so the reason I'm bringing this up folks is if you're in chat let's get a few let's get

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some more questions going I knew I'd get some oft question yep yep so the first

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one is the idea is that Lantern users can group with Lantern users that's the whole point is that we want people to

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group as much as they're possible if you're a hardcore Lantern user meaning your Lantern is destroyed when you die

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you can group with a non-hardcore lantern user because it's not the content it's not even a server flag it's

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the lantern itself so people who are using lanterns that don't get destroyed

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can help you out and make progress for it while you're doing that or they can mess with you so you want to be careful

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who you group with if you're if you're in the hardcore issue um so that's the answer to that is

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that we want people or if you don't have a lantern at all you can group with people there although it might it might

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reveal a Mist Walker and even if you don't have a lantern you'll have to deal with that uh you want to be careful in

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grouping because it could reveal my each Lantern can reveal myth Walker so you

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want to be uh you want to be careful on

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that so for the lantern question we're not shutting down trading but that's one

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of the reasons that we have a fresh start server for it so that everybody starts on equal footing so you can so it

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would be like a normal server in that we're not restricting uh we're not restricting trading and all of that

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stuff but since you can't transfer you won't be able to move a character over and and add twink items for instance in

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order to power through and the only time that somebody will be able to power through you st through stuff for you

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will be if they've made progress on the server themselves and even then you

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they're they're the Mist Walkers won't appear to people that are wildly outside the range

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so um I see about all the Rune arm uh lovers I will talk to Steel star and

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mention that people were were putting in for Rune arms more Rune arm love he's a

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big artificer lover as well so I'm sure that he will be super happy with that I

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can answer the question about the mimik hunt it's still on our schedule of events to come up here in the future we

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just need to find the right time and place for it it it'll be coming

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back uh wow you're actually people are loving to ask like specific itemization

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stuff yeah we'll probably have more sun and moon augments um so that will be

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good uh there was another question I see one from uh Johnny asking about um

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what's the new Adventure Pack in the fourth quarter uh I I don't know that we're really interested in getting into

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plot at this point it's really a up to whatever you you know about it really but we do have one coming we we do in

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fact actually have a a quest pack coming here so do I want to do I want to spoil it I don't think I want to spoil it yet

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it's definitely thematic like they all have the same theme so uh and it sounds cool but I don't want to spoil it quite

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yet yeah

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what of the things about the Sun and Moon augment slotting is that uh our first main goal for the Sun and Moon

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slot is so that you weren't locked into uh set bone set bonus

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uh blocks in your gear that didn't allow you to progress your gear unless you

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give it up but the downside is that the Sun and augments kind of reflect that

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and so if you had weaker set bonuses earlier on there are still augments for

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that and I I imagine that in the long term you'll slowly see sun and moon augments that will replace that and that

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way you're you're not locked into these big set bonuses but you still have the ability to kind of build extra stuff on

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gear uh I don't think we have a plan to bring these to the regular game worlds

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this lanterns in The Mists event but um someone is asking you know if we did could they have a enemy mechanic there

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that's different or something like that but yeah I mean I'm not

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saying for now this is only for the single server you want to be careful because this can be disruptive to play

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who players to people who don't want to opt in and so we want to keep it on the single server because we don't want

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people to troll other players by equipping a l when they didn't expect it and have missed Walkers

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be all right let's say uh last chance for questions you're really trying you're

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you're trying to he's so he really wants to show this cool armor well I do well I

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just don't want to you know we're we're we basically said everything that I know that we can say mostly about the 64-bit

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Worlds at this point but at least from what I know

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so uh call Har wants to know you know can we expect this kind of new event

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that are non hardcore on this new server for the future so for example you know

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this is going to have a beginning and it'll get shut off at one point uh could we see events like this in the future

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and uh the reason I wanted to to ask a little bit more about that too is because we had our elth Invasion event

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last year which thematically I think at least in the creative space was somewhere in the same wheelhouse as this

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I think there's a ven diagram there where the two are overlapping a little bit

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right yes um the uh basically This Server will be

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on forever so when this event ends you'll still see all of the normal uh

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mimic events and the uh I'm trying to think of our The

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Cove the name of Cove event Crystal Cove Crystal Cove thank you for some reason I had corsair's Cove stuck in my head I'm

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like I know that's not right Crystal Cove all of those will will come on night Rebels will come on on this server

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and such so yep

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I know I know that there's a a bug on some accounts that like it's hard to get

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your ddl account and your lro account on and we I think we looked and tried to

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fix that and it didn't take so that's something we have to look

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into we obviously got a lot of chatter going about transfers and in that here

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for potential future plans of what we could do after this debut of our 64-bit

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server here so I you know I want to be a little careful I don't want to cause confusion though as well so we're not

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talking about character transfers to This 64bit Server the 64bit server will

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be VIP only and will not have character transfers enabled the discussion from earlier about character transfers is

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about what we might be able to do afterwards

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right and that all predicates on how well this server does for instance if we

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run into this and the tech just doesn't work as well we can't do the same plan because it wouldn't be able to support

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the same amount of people also for the

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test the other thing that I don't want to be confusing tests we want as many players

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on as possible won't be VIP will have character copy you do all of that then

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we wipe it and it's a fresh start server it's VIP

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only we are going to have some kind of rewards for these Lantern events but I don't think we want to talk about that

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today but we have some questions you get stuff yes yes you get stu oh yeah yeah

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absolutely y all right SE thanks for joining me

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here today I really appreciate you taking some time with us here on this live stream we'll I'm sure we'll be seeing you again probably in a few weeks

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as we're rolling out more information about uh the 64 the 64-bit server here

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so thanks for joining me awesome have a great

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one all right I am going to what am I what happened to my text okay there we

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go I'm going to go in game

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there we

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are uh yes this will be a longterm [Music]

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server uh it's not that I ignored your myth our lore question it's just that I don't know the answer answer to it I uh

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severin's Focus was on the 64-bit world and I think really the answer to that question would be best asked to the

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people who did the story work for magic of myth jener so that'll be knockback

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and the quest designers in particular who are going to be able to offer in more insight into the motivations of why

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they selected certain parts of myth drer to focus on over others

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all right so I am in game on an undisclosed

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World in an un in an undisclosed location and uh I am here to show you on

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cordovan uh the new outfit that will be arriving with Year of the Dragon next

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week so before I actually show you the new stuff I need to remind you about the old

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you have through what was our official cut off date here let me double check my cut off

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date you have through September 24th so

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through Tuesday you have through Tuesday to pick up your draconic Raiders reward

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Box by speaking to Zol in the Eon Hall of Heroes this will get you your selection of raid loot once per server

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so only one character on the server is going to get it but you get your own pick of nice raid loot historical for

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free by talking to a person as long as you do it through Tuesday so don't don't show up on Wednesday and be

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like what oh man don't be that person you too can log into the game and get

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your free awesome loot for free and uh make sure you do it in time

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but you do have through Tuesday September 24th to do it because starting on Wednesday once we come up uh from our

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weekly downtime we're going to have a new reward and that's going to be a prismatic Dragon cosmetic outfit uh I

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think well we've got the names here I am actually going to be showing it off so

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these are the items uh there's three of them there is a prismatic Dragon

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Helm fashioned after a dragon that shimmers like rainbow in the Sun a prismatic dragon armor bound to

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account these are all cosmetics and the cloak and I'm going to equip them

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here and we'll take a look and see see what we think on the character there

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so here we are this is going to be the free cosmetic set that arrives on Wednesday you can speak to zal to pick

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it up and it'll be available for a month until our next year the dragon gift arrives we're doing monthly

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gifts just for logging into the game celebrating 50 years of dudes and Dragons online this year and uh this is

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our most recent one so so there we go Mr green dragon wings getting in the

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way that's fine I'm not even mad

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but let me uh let me pop into myth

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oops all right there we go I'm just going to put

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keep this up then for a little bit while while I go through some

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questions dance please I don't know what dance is I think I don't know what

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dance there we go we'll do this one

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yeah it's fortunately my it's Darkness here I don't know if I can Let's see we

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may have to kind of just sort of wait till it gets lighter out but let me let me pop somewhere else and see if I can

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uh oh I've got an idea this totally won't crash the game

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world I say famous last words here we go yeah yeah yeah you could see this much better in in some regular kind ofish

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sunlight although this is still kind of not quite right but you can see you can see that it's got more going on here in

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terms of coloration and kind of Shimmer and

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shine so let me uh let me get us into some

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sunlight for

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see can I actually get out here nope nope

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okay oops

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where and what do you pick up before Tuesday what you pick up is uh the

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draconic Raiders reward box and you do that by speaking with Zol and the Eon Hall of Heroes through

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Tuesday September 24th someone and said I just missed what

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what the important thing was what's the important thing well this is the important thing all right well I'm not getting my sunlight that I was hoping I

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might get by swapping to this location but I'll just stay here anyway while I go look for uh look at some

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questions once we claim it will it be like the wings yes uh well I don't think it's like the wings it's a cosmetic so

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uh you'll be able to just claim it in the future by speaking to the claims NPC

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associated with this you're the dragon stuff uh all these Cosmetics are going to be reacquired by speaking to is it

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estas I think it's estras uh whoever that is uh that's also in the Eon Hall

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of Heroes so long term you'll be able to get new copies of these cosmetic items but you do have to claim it during the

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month that it's

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available oh I don't know you know what I don't think I've got the wings on this

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admin character I don't think I gave myself the wings

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yet no I don't sorry I can't uh can't do the wings look

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on this armor because I don't have the wings I can try however to run to get to the other side

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here see if I can pick up some of that sunlight maybe

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uh any reason why the gauntlets of immortality were not offered I don't think there was a specific reason why

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any singular raid item wasn't offered in the draconic Raiders reward box um other

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than we wanted to mix it up some from what we did with the old Raiders reward box we wanted to make sure it was

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different with the exception we kept in the sort of Shadow cuz everyone wanted it um but I think really that's mostly

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what it was is is is it roughly Dragon related and um or could it be sort of

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theoretically lumped enough in to include and is it different enough from

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the other one that we did a few years back and so in terms of gauntlets of immortality I I don't think there was

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any specific reason I can tell you I like those gauntlets they're not too hard to get at least in my experience so

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how did I get it a week early I'm a cheater yes I

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am

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okay are we going to do a community designed Quest again I don't think we were in a rush to do another one we did

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one this last year in 2023 related to the Pax East

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presentation that we did that year and we wanted to offer it as a free dungeon at the end of that year we did uh I

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think I'm sure we might do something like that again but it probably wouldn't be any time too soon I did end up being

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a bunch of work uh to do that making of and it was a good time

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so all right I think I saw something stmt had

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asked a little bit both DD and loto I've had a few games performance issues this

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past week seems to be happening at the same time is there a reason for that uh the answer is yes uh we have had a few

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issues at the data center this week and um sadly that did impact both games at

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the same time

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oh uh my cat is passed out it's a rainy dark day here today and C cooler than

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it's been of late um I think it's been I think I remember like six yeah 64

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degrees right now which is great but it's not 85 so between that and the Wind

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and Rain my cat is just sort of zonked out in a chair as a good cat ought

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so I don't think she's going to want to go on her five o'clock walk because it's all crappy

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out uh let's see stmt name mentioned let's go yeah

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yeah yeah so some of the some of the issues we've been having in

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recent week or so I've been something that has been within our level of control and there have been a couple of

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things that have happened say uh last weekend and and a little bit this week

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that were somewhat less out of our control and uh so we do apologize for that but we have had had a couple issues

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over the past

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week all right I don't know what else should we mention should I just spend the next 10 minutes uh reading over my

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Dungeons and Dragons players handbook the brand new one this thing is sweet loving

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it I think the uh the artwork on the the book is really excellent I've been

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digging it reading through the classes it's been a good thing I think

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you know one of the things that really struck me is that it it they're not kidding when they were saying that it's it's still most the fifth edition and uh

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um it is so organized really nicely though I've been really digging

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it all right no you're wrong you are wrong Bel

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garat I'm sorry but you're just [Laughter] wrong I mean you don't have to like the

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players handbook it's fine but to to say that it's

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like not of quality is incorrect it's clearly of

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quality when is ddl getting its campaign book well it's already got one uh it was made by a player called the storm Reach

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campaign many years ago you had to translate it but you should be able to largely do that that would be sweet

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though wouldn't it I would be down I would be down can't wait for February and Dragon

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Disciple who needs the holidays let's skip it yep I think steel star has talked a little bit about Dragon

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Disciple in recent weeks we don't know if it'll be free transfers or not free transfers so

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typically it it depends on what we would end up doing in the future related to the existing game worlds typically if an

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existing game world uh is going to be continuing on in its

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state long term then we wouldn't want to only offer free transfers off we would

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typically do that if we were ultimately going to be moving people from One World to another but typically in a case where

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we are moving people from One World to another we will offer those transfers for free there's no expectation that

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everyone is going to have to pay their accounts on to move say from like when we did uh

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I don't whenever we did that one a while back that's the way it works on Hardcore

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as well so I wouldn't expect any major changes between the way we do it for

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hardcore and the way we would do it for any world because it's it's a pretty basic basic setup we have which is that

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if you know if it's optional it's optional and if it's not optional then we're not going to make you pay for it

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so

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can we get some more information about the next 69.3 lania preview and Patch planned

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release date perhaps go take a look see what I can uh dig up for

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you when I look at our current schedule it looks like so like we said we're on

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it's likely that next week we will at the very least have a lania preview our second preview for the new raid so

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regardless of what ends up happening in the coming days with the 64-bit server testing that we're doing it's likely

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that there will be a lamania next week and it'll be the raid at the very least the addition could be that in

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addition to a lania preview we're going to have a Cormier preview using the lania game

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launcher and that would be something that we'll announce if if we can next week but at the very least we'll be

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having a raid preview for 69.3 and that will be next week on the

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monia so then if next week goes well in terms of the raid preview and things there is a

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potential that we could release 69.3 sometime in early October uh it is

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likely that there's some night dils work in there as well so depending on the timing of that 69.3 patch is I think

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going to determine partially the timing of night Revels so uh I would expect

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early October for 69.3 and and I don't want to get more specific than that but it'll be one of the first Wednesdays in

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October do the math look at the calendar but next week we've got our

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lania preview our next year of the dragon uh giveaway that we're doing and

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Crystal Cove is underway as well that's the other bit that I haven't had a chance to talk about yet but you could

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see right here uh euphonia challenge Treasure of Crystal Cove arrived this

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Thursday yesterday and it runs through September 29th just something to do we

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know that some people have been asking for it back we thought it would be a fun thing to do get you a chance to do some

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loot celebrate yesterday's Talk Like a Pirate Day and uh just generally have

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fun um and and enjoy so that's what we've been up to uh in terms of in terms

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of uh this week let me get back in

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there there we are quite sure what happened something happened with my uh my game client

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source

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just now I lost it on xsplit it froze up and I

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couldn't couldn't unfroze it it's frozen and a would n Furs

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so that's fine I'll just do it live on the air you don't see CNN doing this all

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right so uh more information then otherwise about 69.3 my expectation

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would be it would be any final polish needed on new night Revels because we have a I I think something in the range

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of a couple of new items and a new Quest that'll be happening here with night Revels uh it'll be the new raid and uh

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probably a few bugs and polish that didn't get into either

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69.1 or 69.2 and then at that point I think with

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the release of 69.3 will'll be closing the door hopefully fingers crossed on

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the update 69 release cycle and begin looking at update 70 which will be our

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Quest pack that'll be happening here to round out the year independent really of this 64 bit

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server

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we need a new quester we help strag the Cobalt woo a female Cobalt that wishes she were a human and even wears a wig

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with pigtails coming out okay oh I I don't know where you're going uh do we

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need to help we I need a qu like the main thing is we need a dating quest to help scrag find a date I I could be down

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for that I could be down for that

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or perhaps Scag has even better found a date and need somebody to watch his

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dogs while he does because although they were not scrags

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dogs as anyone who knows will know that they were you know Intruders uh the experience of having so

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many dogs in his residence was enough that he has become a dog fan and now he

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has lots of dogs who need to be kep while he goes out on

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his romantic date and so you have to basically her 10

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dogs legendary raid best raid MMO

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good the bonus for the weekend is the return of Crystal Cove uh we call call

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it D bonus days but it it's really a a mix of bonuses and events and in this

1:00:02
case it's on the event side rather than the booster

1:00:07
side and I'm just killing some time here because we it's already 5 o' there was no point kind of starting a new quest in

1:00:13
that so uh I thought I would just do

1:00:24
that he man ghost gang is missing the pink one you're right there it's just the three ghosts in the in the Pac-Man

1:00:33
yeah yeah I don't think Severin picks winners there nend I'm sorry I just or cozy I I

1:00:42
I don't think Severin wants to engage in in picking who's the best live streamer

1:00:49
besides we all know it's cozy Bean I'm kidding I'm kidding you can clip that

1:00:59
if you want to lose audience it's like a reverse promo thing

1:01:04
right instead of actually helping your channel I heard

1:01:16
it yep protect the puffers scrag is obviously a cat person

1:01:24
uh you probably are right I could see scrag being more of a cat person but you know like I said the experience changed

1:01:31
changed scrag so so there you go

1:01:38
yeah you know who Scag State could be milicia anyway okay so thank you for

1:01:46
watching Fridays at 4 on twitch.tv/ DDO stream this show gets up

1:01:51
on YouTube a few hours afterwards and uh thanks very much being here in chat I

1:01:57
will have a lot more information in the coming weeks as we do our first preview of the 64-bit server and Beyond so hope

1:02:05
you're having a good time in Dungeons and Dragons online I will see you in myth drer and Beyond have a great

1:02:10
weekend everyone talk to you again soon bye-bye
 
Titus Ovid

Titus Ovid

Mover and Shaker
We got 2pretty good summaries in other threat. I would have liked something official but I guess that is too much to ask.

Wisefreelancer said:
For those who only play DDO: everything discussed on Fridays@4 is basically the same as Lotro's recent 64-bit servers. What we know:

  1. There will be a new 64-bit server in a new West coast data centre. It will be VIP-only, persistent and fresh-start (no transfers)
  2. The new server comes with an event which is a spin on hardcore - some hardcore-like elements (death can permanently kill event progress but no toon erasure. Event sounds fixed-term but server will remain when it is finished
  3. There will be stress-tests of the new server before launch. These are not VIP-only and allow character copy. Accessed through Lamannia client but on the real new server
  4. Assuming this all goes well, the plan is to launch new 64-bit servers, with full transfer options, to allow players to migrate existing characters and guilds to 64-bit. That is a long-term goal and no promises. Sounds like they want fewer larger servers in that plan, so higher pop for all (without the lag, hopefully)
1 is the same as Lotro, which has Angmar (plus Mordor, the new EU one, but Sev was pretty honest that's not happening with DDO due to lower EU pop. Lotro has a special wraith event, which is kind of like (2). The stress testing was exactly the same - Mordor launched for stress tests and then was wiped for the full launch. Anyone could copy for stress testing. I haven't followed the long-term plan as much for Lotro as I wanted to start permanently on Mordor but they have spoken about moving to 64 bit for all there too.

So the sky isn't falling. This is a first, hardcore-like step. My hope is the barrier to restart will prevent players flocking out the old servers until transfers are a thing, but a limited-time hardcore-like event should get people interested initially (I will probably check it out).
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Kobay said:
Keep in mind, some of the topics were a bit all over the place so it was kind of hard to keep track of when they were talking about what, so there may be some incorrect things here. But I did my best to organize all the bits of info I could pull from watching the stream. More Information about a lot of this should be coming in the weeks ahead. But hopefully this will help some of you get an idea of what's ahead and what exactly got said during the stream.

Standard 64-Bit Server Information

  • First and foremost, Severlin lets us know that this is NOT a Commodore 64 OR N64 Port. (Little bit of Humor there)
  • They are still trying to figure out how exactly they want to use the technology and integrate it into DDO.
  • Do not have the capability nor do they want to just deploy this to all the servers cause they want to see how this works over time and keep an eye on it
  • New 64-Bit Servers will be hosted on New Datacenter in Las Vegas, so it’s not only a new server, but a new Data Center. Ping will be slightly higher on East Coast then.
  • EU Server not likely to happen. Can’t justify the cost. It would be even more expensive. Will see how things go though.
  • DDO Store Account Purchases will carry over to new servers. (Just not Character or Server Specific purchases that you would typically have to purchase on a new server anyways.)
  • Uses Cache of backend processes to optimize memory.

First Test Server

Next Week or week after: Test of 64-Bit Server that allows Free "Character Copies" (Similar to it is currently done on Lammania) for all players to flood the server and stress test the server. Free to all players
  • Lammania Game Launcher
  • New Server, not Lamannia.
  • Future Stress Test Servers expected as well.
  • Event won’t be previewed on this server

First LIVE 64-Bit Server:
  • Cormyr is the name of the Server
  • VIP Only Server No Character Transfers
  • Server will stay up long term. Not limited to like a 90 day period like a traditional hardcore server, but the event could come and go.
  • Normal Server so doesn’t have the restrictions that a normal hardcore server does.
  • Launch of Server will include the Lanterns in the Mist Event: (Associated with Mist of Ravenloft)
  • Server will stay up long term. Not limited to like a 90 day period like a traditional hardcore server, but the event could come and go.
Lanterns of The Mist

Associated with Mist of Ravenloft, so can except things to take on this theme.

Lanterns:
  • Claim 1 or more lanterns at first level. 5 in Total Available
  • You equip it to your trinket slot.
  • One Lantern Allows you to See Mistwalkers, but it can’t be destroyed. (Thus not earning rewards? Like participating in the event but not being forced to worry about the “Hardcore Aspect”
  • One Lantern you equip and if you die it is destroyed and it destroys any other lanterns you have. “Hardcore-Esque where you earn rewards”
  • Have to get to certain level or goals in order to proceed. I.E. Level 20 and earn Lanterns that give you rewards?
  • Can use Lantern that is not destroyed and still play with players that are using Lanterns that can be destroyed. To encourage people to stick around and play even if you aren’t participating in the hardcore aspect of the event.
  • Lantern is Opt In
Mist-Walkers
  • Similar to Hounds from Previous Hardcore Event. A mob that spawns during the event.
  • Mistwalkers won’t appear to people outside level range of quest.
  • Can only appear if someone in group has a lantern.


The Future of 64-Bit

This is all speculation for the most part because it depends entirely on how all the future server tests go down the line. But it establishes kind of what they are hoping to do.

They would like to set up New 64-Bit Servers that allow for transfers and free to all players, but have to first establish a successful 64-bit Server. Still a ways off. Will require:

  • Setting up and Reworking the data Center to make room for them, which is more time intensive than they’d like.
  • Needs to see how it performs because there is a cost.
  • Wants to open new server and allow transfer, which eventually people will move from old server to these new consolidated servers (Mega Servers). This doesn’t happen now because of performance of servers. Many people are on smaller servers now cause less performance issues associated with lower number of players playing on that server. A consolidated server however on better performing servers will make that less of an issue. The idea is to have fewer servers to hold more players.
  • Need to work on issues with Guild Transfers, Monster Manual Transfers and other things that currently don’t transfer before asking players to transfer from 34 bit to 64 bit.
  • Need to work on serialization of characters (your character footprint per say) that would help so that bringing over these characters with all this preexisting memory would not degrade not only your game and the performance of the new 64 bit server but also how it might affect other people. (A good test will be getting as many people with their big high level characters in on these server stress test)

Other News:

  • Night Revels coming 1st or 2nd week of October
  • Mimic Hunt Still on schedule of events for the future.
  • Will have more Sun/Moon Augments in the future
  • Goal is eventually get to the point where players aren’t locked into big set bonuses.
  • Expecting to see more Ravenloft content in the undetermined future.
  • New Adventure pack for 4th Quarter still coming. No news on that yet.
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Thanks Wise and Kobay

Cheers,
Titus
 
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