Pure Sorcerer Build

[Greybeard]

So what I should just respec the enhancement tree as well so I'm majoring in force and/or Acid instead? then pick a different dragon line in Draconic?

 

[Hobgoblin]

No. stick with fire

 

[Greybeard]

Ok so it took me a little while to figure out where the change you recommended goes. I guess Epic Mental Toughness then instead of Master of Fire?

(See Edits above.)

 

[Hobgoblin]

I still say 5 percent crit damage is more then a tiny bit of sp and 1 percent crit chance. but you take what you like

 

[Greybeard]

not horrible. master of fire is bad.

warding is only ok. i would go esp force or acid

i like ruin and gruin if going t5 drac

This is where I got confused.
1. Figured ouut what esp force is and where to put it
2. no mention of what to put in place of Master of fire
3. Have no idea what or where I can find Ruin and Gruin.

Instead of using the pro-terms how about giving it to me like I'm someone who's never been this far in the game because I haven't. This is my first ever lvl 20 character. I figured Drac line would boost my fire damage which is my main source of DPS.

 

[Hobgoblin]

ok sorry my bad. ruin is a level 27 feat. it deals 500 damage flat out that scales with force spell power. greater ruin is 30+ and is 1000 damage flat.

in your epic destiny of draconic incarceration, the top tier has an ability called ruin intensified. it deals an equal amount of damage in your element you picked in first core.

I will look over what adjustments to make. might be ruin in place of master of fire and skip gruin (that is slang for greater ruin)

does that help?

 

[Hobgoblin]

looking at it at 30 ruin for epic dr and at 33 gruin for epic mental toughness

 

[Greybeard]

Class and Feat Selection

Level	Class	Feats
1	Sorcerer(1)	Human Bonus Feat: Maximize Spell
		Standard: Spell Focus: Evocation
		Class Skills: Concentration(4), Spellcraft(4)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(4)
2	Sorcerer(2)	Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
3	Sorcerer(3)	Standard: Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
4	Sorcerer(4)	Charisma: +1 Level up
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
5	Sorcerer(5)	Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
6	Sorcerer(6)	Standard: Quicken Spell
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
7	Sorcerer(7)	Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
8	Sorcerer(8)	Charisma: +1 Level up
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
9	Sorcerer(9)	Standard: Empower Spell
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
10	Sorcerer(10)	Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
11	Sorcerer(11)	Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
12	Sorcerer(12)	Standard: Mental Toughness
		Charisma: +1 Level up
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
13	Sorcerer(13)	Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
14	Sorcerer(14)	Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
15	Sorcerer(15)	Standard: Improved Mental Toughness
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
16	Sorcerer(16)	Charisma: +1 Level up
		Class Skills: Concentration(1), Spellcraft(1)
		Cross Class Skills: Use Magic Device(1)
17	Sorcerer(17)
18	Sorcerer(18)	Standard: Spell Focus: Necromancy
19	Sorcerer(19)
20	Sorcerer(20)	Charisma: +1 Level up
21	Epic(1)	Epic Feat: Wellspring of Power
22	Epic(2)	Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Fire
23	Epic(3)
24	Epic(4)	Epic Feat: Epic Spell Focus: Evocation
		Charisma: +1 Level up
25	Epic(5)	Epic Destiny Feat: Crush Weakness
26	Epic(6)
27	Epic(7)	Epic Feat: Embolden Spell
28	Epic(8)	Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Force
		Charisma: +1 Level up
29	Epic(9)
30	Epic(10)	Epic Feat: Ruin
		Legendary Feat: Scion of the Plane of Fire
31	Legendary(1)	Epic Destiny Feat: Spell Specialty: Enchantment
32	Legendary(2)	Charisma: +1 Level up
33	Legendary(3)	Epic Feat: Greater Ruin
34	Legendary(4)	Epic Destiny Feat: Titan's Blood

 

[danzig138]

not horrible. master of fire is bad.

Hobgoblin is correct here. In fact, most of the Master of . . . feats are not great. You can almost always find something better to take in their place.

 

[Hobgoblin]

last build looks solid

 

[Hobgoblin]

Hobgoblin is correct here. In fact, most of the Master of . . . feats are not great. You can almost always find something better to take in their place.

all

 

[unbongwah]

The problem with the Master of (X) feats is that they try to make bad spells good and fail, rather than making good spells better. They don't address the fundamental problem of spells with low maximum caster levels falling off a cliff once you enter epics, they just make those spells a tiny bit more useful for a little while.

 

[Greybeard]

Good to know
Thanks

 

[justin credible]

imo ruin and gruin make some sense on an archmage or maybe a thorn druid (since untyped damage is boosted by force spell power and thats what these guys do), a fire sorc isnt going to be focused on force damage AND you are in no need of yet another dps spell that bypasses resistance, since 20 sorc covers that.

 

[Supot]

I love Bust of glacial wrath, Ruin, Greater Ruin. Those are for lvl 24, 27, and 30.

Ruin and Greater Ruin are Boss and Reaper killers. You dont have high Single target damage spells as most of it is AOE.


Make sure you have Force Spellpowr and Crit (Impulse and Kinetic Lore) for Meteor Swarm and Ruins.

Spellpower Force is a good feat if you can fit it.

 

[Hobgoblin]

glacial wrath is for cc not damage on fire sorc btw

 

[Hobgoblin]

imo ruin and gruin make some sense on an archmage or maybe a thorn druid (since untyped damage is boosted by force spell power and thats what these guys do), a fire sorc isnt going to be focused on force damage AND you are in no need of yet another dps spell that bypasses resistance, since 20 sorc covers that.

tell me you don't play sorc with telling me you don't play sorc

 

[intravenous]

imo ruin and gruin make some sense on an archmage or maybe a thorn druid (since untyped damage is boosted by force spell power and thats what these guys do), a fire sorc isnt going to be focused on force damage AND you are in no need of yet another dps spell that bypasses resistance, since 20 sorc covers that.

ruin is one of the only ways for a dps blaster caster to have passable dps in todays meta. of course a fire sorc would take it since they are already going t5 in draconic. also, the damage is only half force and half fire (just like meteor swarm, so you should be slotting force spellpower anyways) and fire sorc is perfect user for that since it strips fire immunity so you can always get full damage from it.

Ruin and gruin are reaper and boss deleters. they are exceptionally important. also, if you go 41 fire savant and 31 feydark, you get tons of bonus force spell power - same with shadowdancer which you should be going for the cooldown reduction, energy drain immunity. force is normal secondary element for fire sorcs with plenty of synergy

 

[Hobgoblin]

and fire sorcs use MS which takes fire and force.....

 

[justin credible]

youre not speced for it as far as enhancements*, and not really for equipment either. its an afterthough
or do you guys actually have dual spell crit damage items for fire and force?