Quest Preview “Ends and means”

[JTH-QA]

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[convallaria]

There are a few things I am aware of and am in the process of/have already fixed.

Known Bugs:
- there is a hidden room in the mansion that will be moved to a different location in the release version.
- an objective in the caverns erroneously clears with the message “Baron Defeated.”
- a chest in the optional fight drops the wrong loot

This is (I believe) all the known bugs I have for now, but I may edit this post later if there was anything I forgot. Thanks so very much for your help and feedback!

 

[Solarpower]

"Feast and Famine" backwards.
Should I call it "lazy" ? Well, the final boss is quite the unique one.
Also, unless intended, the tile puzzle seems off a little bit

 

[convallaria]

"Feast and Famine" backwards.
Should I call it "lazy" ? Well, the final boss is quite the unique one.
Also, unless intended, the tile puzzle seems off a little bit

This is intended
Was trying to add a small twist to the usual tile puzzle

 

[Flynna]

Great quest, love the concept of coming back in an area we already cleared!
- Like in the first quest going through here, you can clip through both sides of the tile puzzle and get behind it by simply running through the wall on both sides
- The baron is aggro'd through the energy gate while he's still talking, and the gate opens up too soon as he's still talking which makes the DM prompts un-sync'd

 

[mitrito]

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cant play the quest to much lag!

 

[Qubert]

I ran this as a level 10 Blightcaster first life character on elite. Great voice acting and sound effects. Mobs are varied and had respectable HP pools and saves. My only wish is that the base xp of the quest be at least 1.5-2 times more than 3064 as this is a longer quest.

 

[Pandalady]

Please don't change how a puzzle that's very widely used elsewhere works, at least not in a way that's so counter-intuitive. By all means, add something new, or use the existing puzzle in a new way, but keep within what a player would intuitively expect. The light going the opposite way to the direction of the piece isn't that, and it'll be at best irritating, at worst a complete turn-off for newer players.

Plus, you will get endless bug reports about it for the rest of time.

 

[Sturmbb]

This is intended
Was trying to add a small twist to the usual tile puzzle

Ha Ha, i actually love this. I think this is a great little tweak

 

[Matuse]

Please don't change how a puzzle that's very widely used elsewhere works, at least not in a way that's so counter-intuitive. By all means, add something new, or use the existing puzzle in a new way, but keep within what a player would intuitively expect. The light going the opposite way to the direction of the piece isn't that, and it'll be at best irritating, at worst a complete turn-off for newer players.

Plus, you will get endless bug reports about it for the rest of time.

All of this. I appreciate the desire to put a twist on floor tile puzzles, but making it look broken will just make people think it's broken. SSG has burned a lot of goodwill in the last couple of years regarding functional content of quests and items just not working properly. It took what, 5 years before a fix was applied to the mithral chest in Toxic Treatment? And we were told over and over again that it was working and we just weren't smart enough/trying hard enough. There are Myth Drannor items whose listed effects simply don't function, and it's been a year.

Please don't take any steps to make the perception of SSG's competence even marginally worse than it already is.

 

[Elfishski]

(I haven't tried the quest) By all means make a puzzle work a bit differently - which is interesting - but give context cues to expect that it's working differently and not just bugged. E.g. it looks like it has been tampered with, or it's smoking and fizzing, or a note on a table "DIY floor puzzle tile installation for beginners" etc

 

[convallaria]

I appreciate the discourse, but… it’s not supposed to be going the opposite direction of the tile. That’s probably a rotation error on my part. I was talking about another part of that picture when saying I was shaking things up. I’ll take a look at the rotation error.

 

[Christhemiss]

alright feedback time (copypasted from my google doc i updated as i was running the quest)
Ends and Means
I pulled the miners belt, but this isnt the mining quest.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP WITH THE UNSKIPPABLE CUTSCENES

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[Pandalady]

I appreciate the discourse, but… it’s not supposed to be going the opposite direction of the tile. That’s probably a rotation error on my part. I was talking about another part of that picture when saying I was shaking things up. I’ll take a look at the rotation error.

Ah, I was specifically referring to the tile flowing the wrong way. If that's not what you were implying, then aside from my general point about fitting new stuff into sensible expectations, carry on

 

[convallaria]

Ah, I was specifically referring to the tile flowing the wrong way. If that's not what you were implying, then aside from my general point about fitting new stuff into sensible expectations, carry on

Yup, nope, I have no plans to mess with a puzzle in how it fundamentally is supposed to work. Only things that we have generally done in other iterations of the puzzle but that aren't specifically a rule. I aim to subvert expectations, but that would just be malicious.