What is that for Monk, or are you talking up a story? (Source)Dragon Disciple.
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No one knows. However, the Dragon Disciple name can apply to Sorceror or Monk, where the former was a direct name (3e and 3.5e), and for the latter, is a newer 5e name.What is that for Monk, or are you talking up a story? (Source)
Honestly, I'd not in favor of a new Monk Archetype. My justification is that over the years, Monks have had so many issues from cumulative nerfs that adding something new could require more of the same. Thus possibly hurting other classes in the process. Just with how every Sorc nerf, hurts other casting classes in often unforeseen ways. Such that the dev's are unwilling to roll back after the fact.No one knows. However, the Dragon Disciple name can apply to Sorceror or Monk, where the former was a direct name (3e and 3.5e), and for the latter, is a newer 5e name.
Given how DDO has implemented and dropped content that matches up with the latest (or near latest DnD PnP ruleset), there's a decent chance of it being a Monk Archetype and it's the known one that's availeble next Feb (2025). If there's anything earlier, we certainly wouldn't know about it.
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I was thinking wizards might have more utility value now than sorcs at end game. I mean DPS on most casters is horrible. Sorcs do have better casting speed, but lower DCs than wizards, less overall defenses and limited spell book.Green star adept and make it a wizard archetype. Both classes have no use at end game so they will complement each other nicely.
Also, don't even get me started on Legendary Past Lives.......None... I hope. I'm dreading the day they somehow release Archetype Past Lives Completion.. as I skipped most of them since I'm already 3x Heroic Comp. Also dreading the inevitable Iconic PL Completion feat.. though I only have 4ish more to go of those until being 3x comp.
..and those elemental strikes will bug out and misfire all the time, to keep it inline with other monks.and those element strikes do a bunch of stuff.
My bet is not the removal of the Ninja Spy tree since it does not align with spell like activities. My bet is the removal of the other tree, Henshin Mystic and replace it with Dragon Disciple, and the spell like strikes are all using Ki with any centered weapon, So kamas, handwraps, shurikens, short swords (with Basic Ninja training), longswords (with Whirling Steel Strike), and longbow (with Zen Archery) and quarterstaff. Perhaps dragon disciple contains unarmed claw attacks, tail spins and breath weapon?My bet for Dragon Disciple is a Monk archetype. They'll remove the Ninja Spy tree (and not replace the incorporeal click, so monks will lose a lot of defense), and put in a kind of amped up elemental strike tree where you select a dragon color and those element strikes do a bunch of stuff.
Personally I dislike wild mage being a sorcerer archetype. It took away the sorcerer defenses and HP from EK tree and replaced it with fluff.I was thinking wizards might have more utility value now than sorcs at end game. I mean DPS on most casters is horrible. Sorcs do have better casting speed, but lower DCs than wizards, less overall defenses and limited spell book.
But I do like wild mage, not because it makes sorc better, just a flavor thing.
Nah, not FvS, not alchemist. FvS is not an arcane spellcaster, and alchemist is a caster that needs preparation; I wouldn't consider it arcane though. Rogue? it is doing fine as the highest melee or ranged DPS damage dealer in the game.Also sorc can be eliminated from a possibility since they have an archetype. Monk (most likely) or possibly wizard. Can’t see a dragon disciple fit anywhere else, where an archtype isn’t already assigned to another class. Unless they start working on the premium classes. Then maybe FVS or possibly even an alchemist.
I would personally love to see rogue as the next archetype, but I can’t see dragon disciple fit there.
Hope not I use Henshin I never use ninjaMy bet is not the removal of the Ninja Spy tree since it does not align with spell like activities. My bet is the removal of the other tree, Henshin Mystic and replace it with Dragon Disciple, and the spell like strikes are all using Ki with any centered weapon, So kamas, handwraps, shurikens, short swords (with Basic Ninja training), longswords (with Whirling Steel Strike), and longbow (with Zen Archery) and quarterstaff. Perhaps dragon disciple contains unarmed claw attacks, tail spins and breath weapon?
There's no reason that Ninjas can't be Dragon Disciples.
Look at the recent Wu Kong (PC & PS5) movie, he's using a stick like quarterstaff: Jing Gu Bang; floating on a lightning cloud. Go with the month of August blue dragon wings... hmmmm... very likely Henshin Mystic is gone.
One of the devs posted on the old forums that they are not beholden to "symmetry". They may release archetypes for classes that already have them before they release one for each class. Just look at what they've done with races and their racial reincarnation bonuses.I hate asymmetry so I'm hoping they do one for every class before doing a 2nd archetype for any other. Most likely Dragon Disciple will be Monk but SSG never stops surprising me with random things. That being said we still need Wizard, Rogue, Artificer, Alchemist, Favored Soul, and Barbarian besides Monk.
Honestly, I can see them twisting almost any of those to make some sort of sense. I liked the original pace and am kind of disappointed we only got one this last time. I get not handing them out for free though.