Racial Completionist, MD and Lamordia...

Gimp-1

Well-known member
If you are VIP you can play Dhampir now. Which is one more benefit of VIP not having to buy the expansion out the gate but still getting the race on day one. And yes completionist goes away upon release of new class or race. Its like you all cannot read that to have completionist you need all, in this case racials x3. Why would it let you still be a completionist when you dont meet the criteria anymore?
 

GrizzlyOso

Well-known member
If you are VIP you can play Dhampir now. Which is one more benefit of VIP not having to buy the expansion out the gate but still getting the race on day one. And yes completionist goes away upon release of new class or race. Its like you all cannot read that to have completionist you need all, in this case racials x3. Why would it let you still be a completionist when you dont meet the criteria anymore?
It didn't used to be like that during pre-order. But you do you.
 

erethizon1

Well-known member
Except it didn’t previously. It was intentionally changed to make it worse for the customer. Spite.
I wouldn't assume spite. I would assume testing to see what causes the most racial completionist FOMO presales. Is it better to give people a one month grace period where they better preorder the expansion and hurry through their 3 racial lives before they lose their racial completionist? Or is it better to immediately take away racial completionist so people pre-order to get it back as quickly as possible? One of these two options should be the most effective and that is the one I assume they will do most of the time.

For me, I just treat racial completionist as a temporary buff. You get it, then a short while later they drop another race. Then you wait 7 or 8 months for the race to be released in the DDO store. Then you spend 3 months getting the 3 past lives. Then a month or 2 later the next race drops and you lose racial completionist.

I am fine with this system since the good part about races is racial AP. I'd much rather they continuously drop new races, as they have been, than have them stop and make it easier to keep racial completionist. That said, the best solution would probably be what they are doing with archetypes. Have new racial variants (like wood elf) that can be used in place of regular elf for racial completionist. However, unlike wood elf, all new racial variants should give the full 3 racial past lives (since I want to see enough racial AP to completely fill racial trees). Racial variants that work just like archetypes (meaning they give unique past lives but are not necessary for completionist) is the ideal solution.
 

DaFalk

Member
The tome was broken as well. This is really simple stuff.
They did comment rather fast saying it was an oversight.

However no eta has been given afaik, yet they still continue to sell bundles technically not containing what was promised.
If I was SSG I would make this priority 1 since I'm sure this is close to breaking a bunch of consumer rights, at least for the EU.
 

5 Other People

all the voices in my head are my own
Not sure why they did this, haven't seen any comment on it either.
This one is clear to me, they did it to encourage pre-order sales or VIP, but they are specifically targeting racial completionist.

Before they left it on as a courtesy b/c everyone was buying the expansion and it was nice to let people keep the bonus of racial completionist through the new lives. But now some folks are holding back on buying the latest & they want people thinking about what they've lost by not continuing to buy.

It's not incompetence or malice, it's simple marketing.
 
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