Hey there, sometimes I like to make strange builds and sometimes I like to start with a premise and look where I end up. In fact, I never played Primal Avatar as a main destiny and when the last archetypes dropped, I was almost there to combine it with the obligatory Blightcaster, even though PA certainly wasn't the best fit. Then it hit me... what about combining it with Dark Hunter instead?
Primal Avatar has some good synergies with ranger.
Just remember to get Quick Draw to combine cast and shoot/hit quicker and try it for the ride. My current build went very niche, but even with the pet focus and Dark Hunter as the main tree (both I won't recommend, pet is now a bit tougher with level 24 enhancements), the early epics were easy and fun and now imagine if someone sits down to actually perfect the ranger PA-combo.
Here is the build, but like I said: More the gimmick side by design.
Character name: Pandjed Nemmonis
Classes: 20 Dark Hunter, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary
Race: Halfling· · · · · · ·Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · ·0% · · ·Displacement:· · 0%
Str:· · ·6· · 8 · ·17 · · ·HP:· · · ·1141 · · ·AC:· · 77
Dex:· · 10· · 8 · ·23 · · ·PRR: · · · ·48
Con:· · ·8· · 8 · ·20 · · ·MRR: · · · ·10 · · ·+Healing Amp:· · 25
Int:· · ·8· · 8 · ·22 · · ·Dodge: · ·1/25 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · 15
Wis:· · 18· · 8 · ·40 · · ·Fort:· · · ·0% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 15
Cha:· · ·8· · 8 · ·23 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 25
DR:
Immunities: Magic Missiles
Class and Feat Selection
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Dark Hunter(1)· ·Standard: Augment Summoning
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Human
2 · · Dark Hunter(2)· ·
3 · · Dark Hunter(3)· ·Standard: Quick Draw
4 · · Dark Hunter(4)· ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
5 · · Dark Hunter(5)· ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Elf
6 · · Dark Hunter(6)· ·Standard: Maximize Spell
7 · · Dark Hunter(7)· ·
8 · · Dark Hunter(8)· ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
9 · · Dark Hunter(9)· ·Standard: Empower Spell
10· · Dark Hunter(10) ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Aberration
11· · Dark Hunter(11) ·
12· · Dark Hunter(12) ·Standard: Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
13· · Dark Hunter(13) ·
14· · Dark Hunter(14) ·
15· · Dark Hunter(15) ·Standard: Quicken Spell
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Vermin
16· · Dark Hunter(16) ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
17· · Dark Hunter(17) ·
18· · Dark Hunter(18) ·Standard: Improved Feint
19· · Dark Hunter(19) ·
20· · Dark Hunter(20) ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Monstrous Humanoid
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Acid
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Improved Augment Summoning
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Intensify Spell
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Poison
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Embolden Spell
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of the Plane of Earth
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Positive
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
Enhancements: 80 APs, Racial 15, Universal 1
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Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 23 permanent Destiny Points
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Primal Avatar - Points spent: 39
Core1 This is your Nature: Thorn
Tier1 Epic Strikes: Carrion Swarm
Tier1 Rejuvenation Cocoon
Core2 Now Grow: Heart
Tier2 Mantle of Nature: Thorn - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Primal Choice: Shard Storm
Tier2 Thrive
Tier2 Spirit Boon: Mind - 2 Ranks
Tier3 At it's Core - Upgrade Primal Spell: At Its Core - Thorn
Core3 Weathering the Elements
Tier3 Natural Shielding
Tier3 Shared Mantle
Tier3 Magic of the Old World: Transmutation - 3 Ranks
Core4 Regrowth
Tier4 Nature's Blessing
Tier4 Nature's Reach - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Ancient Wisdom - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Primal Ally: Briar Patch
Tier5 Mass Frog
Tier5 Greater Form: Thorn Cloud
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Shadowdancer - Points spent: 10
Core1 Shadow Training
Tier1 Cover of Darkness - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Assassinate - 3 Ranks
Core2 Step Through Shadows
Tier2 Dance in the Dark - 2 Ranks
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Magus of the Eclipse - Points spent: 22
Core1 Touched by the Moon
Tier1 Grand Summoner
Tier1 Imperceptible Casting - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Impregnable Mind - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Call Upon: Animated Armor
Core2 Deepening Arcana
Tier2 Moonlight: Dark Light of the Moon
Core3 Nullmagic Aura
Tier3 Starlight - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Partial Eclipse: Evocation - 3 Ranks
Core4 Nightwind
Tier4 Nullmagic Protection
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Equipped Gear Set: Standard
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Trinket2· · · Restricted by another item in this gear set
Trinket3· · · Restricted by another item in this gear set
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Will report how it is in endgame, though I don't have high hopes for it and didn't plan to stay long there this time.
Primal Avatar has some good synergies with ranger.
- The mantle works on spellcast, melee attack, and ranged attacks
- As a ranger, you got several feats you could spend in the metamagics without losing too much of the rest
- Carrions Swarm and Shard Storm doesn't care about DCs and Mass Frog doesn't care about your highest spell level for its DC
- The Thorn spell do pair nicely with both fighting styles, Arcane Archers like to get their acid spellpower high and melees do profit from the bunch of temporary hit points regularily.
- As a Dark Hunter, there are some pet-related bonuses to be found (mantle on pets and summons
- Some imbue dice on the mantle
- Spellpoint bonuses here and there, but SP isn't much of an issue with the cost of most of the stuff
Just remember to get Quick Draw to combine cast and shoot/hit quicker and try it for the ride. My current build went very niche, but even with the pet focus and Dark Hunter as the main tree (both I won't recommend, pet is now a bit tougher with level 24 enhancements), the early epics were easy and fun and now imagine if someone sits down to actually perfect the ranger PA-combo.
Here is the build, but like I said: More the gimmick side by design.
Character name: Pandjed Nemmonis
Classes: 20 Dark Hunter, 10 Epic, 2 Legendary
Race: Halfling· · · · · · ·Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · ·0% · · ·Displacement:· · 0%
Str:· · ·6· · 8 · ·17 · · ·HP:· · · ·1141 · · ·AC:· · 77
Dex:· · 10· · 8 · ·23 · · ·PRR: · · · ·48
Con:· · ·8· · 8 · ·20 · · ·MRR: · · · ·10 · · ·+Healing Amp:· · 25
Int:· · ·8· · 8 · ·22 · · ·Dodge: · ·1/25 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · 15
Wis:· · 18· · 8 · ·40 · · ·Fort:· · · ·0% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 15
Cha:· · ·8· · 8 · ·23 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 25
DR:
Immunities: Magic Missiles
Class and Feat Selection
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Dark Hunter(1)· ·Standard: Augment Summoning
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Human
2 · · Dark Hunter(2)· ·
3 · · Dark Hunter(3)· ·Standard: Quick Draw
4 · · Dark Hunter(4)· ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
5 · · Dark Hunter(5)· ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Elf
6 · · Dark Hunter(6)· ·Standard: Maximize Spell
7 · · Dark Hunter(7)· ·
8 · · Dark Hunter(8)· ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
9 · · Dark Hunter(9)· ·Standard: Empower Spell
10· · Dark Hunter(10) ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Aberration
11· · Dark Hunter(11) ·
12· · Dark Hunter(12) ·Standard: Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
13· · Dark Hunter(13) ·
14· · Dark Hunter(14) ·
15· · Dark Hunter(15) ·Standard: Quicken Spell
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Vermin
16· · Dark Hunter(16) ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
17· · Dark Hunter(17) ·
18· · Dark Hunter(18) ·Standard: Improved Feint
19· · Dark Hunter(19) ·
20· · Dark Hunter(20) ·Favored Enemy: Favored enemy: Monstrous Humanoid
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Acid
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Improved Augment Summoning
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Intensify Spell
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Poison
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Embolden Spell
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of the Plane of Earth
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Epic Spell Power: Positive
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Wisdom: +1 Level up
Enhancements: 80 APs, Racial 15, Universal 1
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Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 23 permanent Destiny Points
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Primal Avatar - Points spent: 39
Core1 This is your Nature: Thorn
Tier1 Epic Strikes: Carrion Swarm
Tier1 Rejuvenation Cocoon
Core2 Now Grow: Heart
Tier2 Mantle of Nature: Thorn - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Primal Choice: Shard Storm
Tier2 Thrive
Tier2 Spirit Boon: Mind - 2 Ranks
Tier3 At it's Core - Upgrade Primal Spell: At Its Core - Thorn
Core3 Weathering the Elements
Tier3 Natural Shielding
Tier3 Shared Mantle
Tier3 Magic of the Old World: Transmutation - 3 Ranks
Core4 Regrowth
Tier4 Nature's Blessing
Tier4 Nature's Reach - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Ancient Wisdom - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Primal Ally: Briar Patch
Tier5 Mass Frog
Tier5 Greater Form: Thorn Cloud
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Shadowdancer - Points spent: 10
Core1 Shadow Training
Tier1 Cover of Darkness - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Assassinate - 3 Ranks
Core2 Step Through Shadows
Tier2 Dance in the Dark - 2 Ranks
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Magus of the Eclipse - Points spent: 22
Core1 Touched by the Moon
Tier1 Grand Summoner
Tier1 Imperceptible Casting - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Impregnable Mind - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Call Upon: Animated Armor
Core2 Deepening Arcana
Tier2 Moonlight: Dark Light of the Moon
Core3 Nullmagic Aura
Tier3 Starlight - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Partial Eclipse: Evocation - 3 Ranks
Core4 Nightwind
Tier4 Nullmagic Protection
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Equipped Gear Set: Standard
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Trinket2· · · Restricted by another item in this gear set
Trinket3· · · Restricted by another item in this gear set
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Will report how it is in endgame, though I don't have high hopes for it and didn't plan to stay long there this time.