Samurai!
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Smokewolf
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There's always an SnM guy.
Djoe
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I think samurai are cool as much as the next guy, but it seems like a pretty uncreative archetype to implement on its own. Most classes / trees can be interpreted into a variety of playstyles, backstories, roles, etc. If you really want a samurai, you could just run a heavy armor kensei fighter using a bastard-sword and your favorite curved-blade cosmetic.
Thumbed_Servant
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Sam are I!
Marshal_Lannes
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There is the armor of the Shogun from Thernal for your cosmetic. Just go fighter, Kensai, and use Grandmaster of the Flowers tree for some Ki strikes. There are several hairstyles already in the game that could pass for Samurai. I'm not sure what a Samurai archetype would do differently than Dragonlord, the current roar more or less functions like the Ki shout. I am surprised that one katana hasn't made its way into the game. I'd be for that. For Samurai to work thematically you'd need some sort of honor system which goes beyond the scope of the game.
Fulchrum
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The cosmetics of full o-yoroi and a kabuto would go a long way for the aesthetic, preferably with a kara-tur adventure pack or expansion. As for class, Samurai has been done a lot of different ways in PnP. It works as an archetype of Cavalier or Fighter, so maybe if they figure out a way to implement pole weapons and add the Cavalier class, but I'd really like to see Nitojutsu Samurai as an archetype for Fighter that gives it a modified version of the Tempest tree (and the ability to remain centered in up to medium armor, but that' s a pipe dream of mine.)
I'd like a cosmetic set. That should be within the realm of possibility.
Cosmetic Katana would be cool too. Pretty sure SSG would charge 80$ for it though. To big of an opportunity for a cash grab.
Samurai archetype maybe some day. Swf, Armor and ki is the first thing that comes to mind.
Cosmetic Katana would be cool too. Pretty sure SSG would charge 80$ for it though. To big of an opportunity for a cash grab.
Samurai archetype maybe some day. Swf, Armor and ki is the first thing that comes to mind.
saekee
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Well ninja and the while monk class do not exactly fit either.
Ninja needs to gain the whirling SDK chain attack feat somewhere as it is a ninja attack that was adapted to SDK.
For tree, Kensei is really the samurai; the rest is just cosmetic. Check out Orchard of Macabre epic mob called Scourge for the cool flag on the back. Otherwise as someone said above you have the obvious choice of Elocator or Guard of the Shogun. Elocator is kind of striking, honestly.
Helms are kind of meh for it; the facemask for revels is good but it takes up the head spot.
Uska
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Monk has been part of d&d since before 1st edition from the blackmoor supplement I think,1975
saekee
long live ROGUE
fair point but they are styled off of eastern martial arts not western medieval prayer monks
Svirfneblin
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I could see it with an Oriental Adventures Expansion Pack.
Add katana and spear. Boosts to Two weapon fighting with katana and wakizashi.
Add nunchucks and Tortles and pizza for full effect.
Add katana and spear. Boosts to Two weapon fighting with katana and wakizashi.
Add nunchucks and Tortles and pizza for full effect.
Thumbed_Servant
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PIZZA!!!!
Fulchrum
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Kensei fills the flavor of the later period unarmored duelist samurai, but I think what OP and I are talking about is more the Sengoku period full armor soldier samurai aesthetic, which is admittedly very close to Fighter in the first place, which is why I propose it as an archetype that trades Vanguard for a modified Tempest, and replaces Defender with the Samurai tree.
It's true that katanas are not a different weapon type in DnD though. In most editions they are just bastard swords, and we already have graphics for short swords, long swords, and bastard swords that fit both the straight and curved blade aesthetic, save for one detail: the tsuba. But if they did an Oriental Adventures inspired Kara-tur adventure pack or expansions, they could introduce new graphics for the same weapon and armor types we already have.
If they are going to add a new weapon type, I want to see polearms (spears, lances, poll-axes, halberds) which would lend itself to Cavalier/Knight, even if it has to be done like Inquisitive's dual hand crossbows, where the tree transforms a quarterstaff or whatever into said polearms. It's been so long without an addition to weapon types, I fear there may be a coding reason beyond "it's too much work to add new named items across all levels."
Whips would require an even deeper investment in animations and such, but hopium springs eternal that the chain attack can be built upon.
It's true that katanas are not a different weapon type in DnD though. In most editions they are just bastard swords, and we already have graphics for short swords, long swords, and bastard swords that fit both the straight and curved blade aesthetic, save for one detail: the tsuba. But if they did an Oriental Adventures inspired Kara-tur adventure pack or expansions, they could introduce new graphics for the same weapon and armor types we already have.
If they are going to add a new weapon type, I want to see polearms (spears, lances, poll-axes, halberds) which would lend itself to Cavalier/Knight, even if it has to be done like Inquisitive's dual hand crossbows, where the tree transforms a quarterstaff or whatever into said polearms. It's been so long without an addition to weapon types, I fear there may be a coding reason beyond "it's too much work to add new named items across all levels."
Whips would require an even deeper investment in animations and such, but hopium springs eternal that the chain attack can be built upon.
Fisto Mk I
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Eastern medieval prayer monks like Russians Warmonks wear medium and heavy armor and use martial weapon like spears, morgenstern, flails, long- and bastard swords etc etc...
Grimscore_Riffstorm
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I think Samurai would be a great thing to introduce but with like an entire Xpac with new stuff. It doesn't have a place to come from in current game lore meta. Also, I think reach weapons like spears, whips and halberds would be a nice bus to sit on. A spear wielding vanguard sounds so hot right now.
The main question is what niche would the samurai class - or more likely an Archetype for fighter or paladin - fill that can't already be done with existing classes / archetypes. Given that both heavily-armored soldiers and robe-wearing duelists are already possible. What does samurai bring to the table that's unique?