Some item-sourced elemental dots conflict with each other

[Mad]

Bug Report Number:

493091

Lingering Acidic Burn and Acid Attunement conflict with each other (Acid Magma and Meltfang or its equivalent)
Lingering Acidic Burn and Acid Attunement also overwrites other spell DoTs like Burning Blood or Melf's Acid Arrow
Bitter Frostbite and Cold Attunement also conflict with each other (Cold Magma and Icefang or its equivalent)
Bitter Frostbite also overwrites other cold DoTs like Frozen Aether

How this bug works, in detail:

- The (x) fang effect, is always dominant over the (x) magma effect, of the same element.
- This also blocks both the on-hit and the actual dot of the magma, because the magma never even shows up on the mob's examine window (because the meltfang blocks it from ever applying).
- This also griefs other players using the element equivalent magma (i.e you can hit a mob with meltfang, and completely block anyone else from hitting the same mob with acid magma, no matter the application order or item source of effect).

 

[The Blonde]

Lingering Acidic Burn and Acid Attunement overwrite each other (Acid Magma and Meltfang or its equivalent)
Bitter Frostbite and Cold Attunement overwrite each other (Cold Magma and Icefang or its equivalent)

Both confirmed bugs.

 

[The Blonde]

Also:

- Bitter Frostbite also overwrites other cold DoTs like Frozen Aether.

- (not 100% confirmed) Bleed the Weak (Dark Hunter imbue) overwrites Alchemical Earth Attunement (tested with a ranged weapon).

- Rippling Energy (Force version of "Dripping with Magma") does not stack with Arcane Pulse (Destiny feat). Edit: Further tests suggest this is a display bug only.
More information: https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?threads/does-meltfang-stack-with-the-new-acid-dwm.17719/post-342122

@Mad can you check whether Lingering Acidic Burn/Acid Attunement correctly interact with the acid version of Draconic Incarnation mantle?

 

[Fisto Mk I]

Lingering Acidic Burn and Acid Attunement overwrite each other (Acid Magma and Meltfang or its equivalent)
Bitter Frostbite and Cold Attunement overwrite each other (Cold Magma and Icefang or its equivalent)

Again? It not display only bug?

 

[justin credible]

Lingering Acidic Burn and Acid Attunement overwrite each other (Acid Magma and Meltfang or its equivalent)

these also overwrite melfs acid arrow and burning blood, as of last year, dunno if its been fixed because i stopped using them

 

[Mad]

Also:

- Bitter Frostbite also overwrites other cold DoTs like Frozen Aether.

- (not 100% confirmed) Bleed the Weak (Dark Hunter imbue) overwrites Alchemical Earth Attunement (tested with a ranged weapon).

- Rippling Energy (Force version of "Dripping with Magma") does not stack with Arcane Pulse (Destiny feat). Edit: Further tests suggest this is a display bug only.
More information: https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?threads/does-meltfang-stack-with-the-new-acid-dwm.17719/post-342122

@Mad can you check whether Lingering Acidic Burn/Acid Attunement correctly interact with the acid version of Draconic Incarnation mantle?

Tested and confirmed, the lingering acid burn and acid attunement both interact correctly with the acid DI mantle dot. They fixed this semi-recently.

Tested and confirmed, the bitter frostbite overwrites frozen aether still.

Tested and confirmed, Bleed the Weak interacts correctly with Alchemical Earth Attunement (tested with both melee and ranged weapons). Idk when they fixed this, probably when they fixed the DI mantle dot.

 

[Mad]

Again? It not display only bug?

They are not display bugs.

 

[Blaster]

SSG knows about this, but they’re in no rush to fix it. They don’t want players stacking these effects, so this “bug” goes conveniently unfixed. It may get addressed one day, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

 

[Ratatoskr_Mikew]

Not Milf's acid arrow :(

 

[Zerg]

please fix these bugs ssg!!! very annoying bugs, i want to gear my blight caster main with the new juiblex acid sceptre and i thought i could use the acidic burn and an alchemical earth attunement i have on another item... clearly not...

 

[Lichcrak]

Please fix so oozing hunger weapons make sense, thank you!

 

[Ratatoskr_Mikew]

This may be intentional to a degree, just poorly thought through and poorly implemented. I have disregarded advice to build in such a way that ignores this issue as it seems few are aware of it.

Like perhaps they put some of the code in, but removed some of it as well but not all the way.

It makes sense the limit alchemical attunement proc sources, I mean a single person can have dripping with Magma from their weapon, alchemical fire attunement for their glove slot, alchemical acid attunement from their ring 1 slot, alchemical cold attunement from their other ring slot, and alchemical air attunement on their offhand.

Too much power creep potential from that alone........ I do not approve.

I am fine with utility power creep but too much DPS power creep...... nope.

 

[Yamani]

Tested and confirmed, Bleed the Weak interacts correctly with Alchemical Earth Attunement (tested with both melee and ranged weapons). Idk when they fixed this, probably when they fixed the DI mantle dot.

Not sure what testing you did. Cause this does not work correctly with some ranged still. Guaranteed it doesn't work with bow atm. Can only have 1 or the other.

 

[Mad]

Not sure what testing you did. Cause this does not work correctly with some ranged still. Guaranteed it doesn't work with bow atm. Can only have 1 or the other.

I never tested it with bows, perhaps it is broken for them.

 

[Mad]

Bump, would be nice if this was fixed.

 

[The Blonde]

[DRIPPING WITH MAGMA BUGS]

Alchemical Earth Attunement/Meltfang does not stack with the Lingering Acidic Burn (acid version of Dripping with Magma) from weapons like Acrida. This stacking issue also occurs when these effects are combined with other Acid DoTs like Burning Blood or Melf's Acid Arrow.

Alchemical Water Attunement/Icefang does not stack with the Bitter Frostbite (cold version of Dripping with Magma) from weapons like Arctica. This stacking issue also occurs when these effects are combined with other Cold DoTs like Frozen Aether (from Void bow), Storm Catcher, or regular cold spells like Niac's Biting Cold.

Rippling Energy (Force version of "Dripping with Magma") does not stack with Arcane Pulse (Destiny feat). Edit: Further tests suggest this is a display bug only.
More information: https://forums.ddo.com/index.php?threads/does-meltfang-stack-with-the-new-acid-dwm.17719/post-342122

The description of the "Dripping in Magma" effect that's found on the following items needs to be changed to reflect that it also procs via spells.
- Legendary Red Dragonscale armors
- The Demon Engine

Bleed the Weak (Dark Hunter imbue) overwrites Alchemical Earth Attunement WHEN USING A RANGED WEAPON (tested with bow). Presumably also overwrites Lingering Acidic Burn/Meltfang.