Someone Please Explain Why My Dragonmark Broke the Laws of Crafting Physics

[Sook]

Alright, I’ve been staring at the Dragonmark of Making… mostly because I enjoy gimping my toons for science.


Anyway.....trying to make sense of this madness:

Least Dragonmark of Making – Repair +2, SLA: Repair Light Damage, +3 Crafting Skills
Lesser Dragonmark of Making – SLA: Repair Serious Damage, another +3 Crafting Skills (+6 total)
Greater Dragonmark of Making – SLA: Reconstruct, another +4 Crafting Skills (+10 total)

Here’s where my brain starts melting:
Why plural on “Crafting Skills”? Which ones exactly? If a crafter’s already sitting at 400, does this thing bump you to 410? Or are we just flexing imaginary numbers here?

Someone please restore world order. I’m one failed repair roll away from spiraling into the multiverse.

 

[Yulrem]

Alright, I’ve been staring at the Dragonmark of Making… mostly because I enjoy gimping my toons for science.


Anyway.....trying to make sense of this madness:

Least Dragonmark of Making – Repair +2, SLA: Repair Light Damage, +3 Crafting Skills
Lesser Dragonmark of Making – SLA: Repair Serious Damage, another +3 Crafting Skills (+6 total)
Greater Dragonmark of Making – SLA: Reconstruct, another +4 Crafting Skills (+10 total)

Here’s where my brain starts melting:
Why plural on “Crafting Skills”? Which ones exactly? If a crafter’s already sitting at 400, does this thing bump you to 410? Or are we just flexing imaginary numbers here?

Someone please restore world order. I’m one failed repair roll away from spiraling into the multiverse.

I barely have any idea what you are talking about but spiraling into the multiverse sounds exciting. Please do.

 

[Sook]

I barely have any idea what you are talking about but spiraling into the multiverse sounds exciting. Please do.

Those crafting skill bonuses in the dragon mark listed. Isn’t the max 400 fo Cannith crafting or am I mistaken? What advantages if any does this bonus offer? *shrugs*

 

[Lotoc]

Alright, I’ve been staring at the Dragonmark of Making… mostly because I enjoy gimping my toons for science.


Anyway.....trying to make sense of this madness:

Least Dragonmark of Making – Repair +2, SLA: Repair Light Damage, +3 Crafting Skills
Lesser Dragonmark of Making – SLA: Repair Serious Damage, another +3 Crafting Skills (+6 total)
Greater Dragonmark of Making – SLA: Reconstruct, another +4 Crafting Skills (+10 total)

Here’s where my brain starts melting:
Why plural on “Crafting Skills”? Which ones exactly? If a crafter’s already sitting at 400, does this thing bump you to 410? Or are we just flexing imaginary numbers here?

Someone please restore world order. I’m one failed repair roll away from spiraling into the multiverse.

cannith crafting used to be split up into multiple categories, it was consolidated into a singular crafting skill and I guess it was left saying 'skills' on the bonus as to leave it open in case they introduced another form of crafting that needed a leveling system.

 

[Yulrem]

Those crafting skill bonuses in the dragon mark listed. Isn’t the max 400 fo Cannith crafting or am I mistaken? What advantages if any does this bonus offer? *shrugs*

No, really. I mean it. I have no clue. I don't do crafting.

But please spiral into the multiverse and tell everything about it to all of me.

 

[magaiti]

Why plural on “Crafting Skills”? Which ones exactly? If a crafter’s already sitting at 400, does this thing bump you to 410? Or are we just flexing imaginary numbers here?

Yes, currently the only skill is cannith crafting. Still, "skills" is technically not wrong. That's all of them, the whole one.
If the crafter does not sit at 400 then extra skills do help with crafting (and thus also leveling the skill).
I have no idea if 400 is hard cap or not, but many things in the game work in this or similar way (BAB increases, caster level/MCL etc), where they are useful while leveling and become useless later.

 

[Sook]

Yes, currently the only skill is cannith crafting. Still, "skills" is technically not wrong. That's all of them, the whole one.
If the crafter does not sit at 400 then extra skills do help with crafting (and thus also leveling the skill).
I have no idea if 400 is hard cap or not, but many things in the game work in this or similar way (BAB increases, caster level/MCL etc), where they are useful while leveling and become useless later.

Appreciate the input. Kinda what I was thinking.

 

[TrappedSoulstone]

You can train up to crafting level 400 but crafting requirements goes up to lvl 425 so this should help with success ratio. I would like to hear from someone who know for sure.

 

[kmoustakas]

Doesn't matter unless we get more high level recipies

 

[Sook]

Doesn't matter unless we get more high level recipies

Are there any high recipes that would benefit even remotely from this high a crafting skill?

 

[Mornyngstar]

Are there any high recipes that would benefit even remotely from this high a crafting skill?

Cannith Crafting Scroll down to the table Scaling Enhancement Groups and look at group 3 of the table. When that group is crafted as Unbound Insight (for those that can be) then they are Crafting Level 425.

I hope that clarifies everything.

As a note: Do not think about using those to get you level up higher. I did this when it was possible but my crafter is also my main so when I TRed I lost all the extra. You can do the recipes repeatedly to gain proficiency until 100% chance but I would only do that on a crafting toon that WILL NEVER TR! You are warned.

 

[Sympl]

Are there any high recipes that would benefit even remotely from this high a crafting skill?

Yes.

 

[Sook]

As a note: Do not think about using those to get you level up higher. I did this when it was possible but my crafter is also my main so when I TRed I lost all the extra. You can do the recipes repeatedly to gain proficiency until 100% chance but I would only do that on a crafting toon that WILL NEVER TR! You are warned.

Wait, you saying I'll lose my crafting skills if I TR?

 

[Buddha5440]

Wait, you saying I'll lose my crafting skills if I TR?

No, you don't lose your crafting skill.

You do lose the benefit you get from successfully crafting something that is not 100% (ie. if you craft something below 100%, it's success rate goes up even when your crafting level does not). When you TR you lose that bonus so something that was 100% will drop a bit until you craft it a few times.

 

[Sook]

No, you don't lose your crafting skill.

You do lose the benefit you get from successfully crafting something that is not 100% (ie. if you craft something below 100%, it's success rate goes up even when your crafting level does not). When you TR you lose that bonus so something that was 100% will drop a bit until you craft it a few times.

Oh! I didn’t know that. Good to know. Appreciate the clarification.

 

[Buddha5440]

Oh! I didn’t know that. Good to know. Appreciate the clarification.

Glad to help. Basically what it comes down to, IIRC, is that each time you craft an item successfully, it lowers the Base crafting lv by 1 so, after crafting a Lv 425 item 25 times it will put you at 100% success if you have a Crafting Level of 400. That bonus (or decrease) to the crafting lv of the shard is what you lose on TR...Your Crafting level and experience will remain.

 

[Mornyngstar]

Glad to help. Basically what it comes down to, IIRC, is that each time you craft an item successfully, it lowers the Base crafting lv by 1 so, after crafting a Lv 425 item 25 times it will put you at 100% success if you have a Crafting Level of 400. That bonus (or decrease) to the crafting lv of the shard is what you lose on TR...Your Crafting level and experience will remain.

Almost right. The level doesn't change but you get a 5% increase in your chance to craft that shard again for each success.