The old DDO forums have been successfully archived.

ShoeMaker

DDOwiki Steward
Care to expand on that? I know that some of the editors on DDOwiki have been archiving some pages, but I'm not aware of a way to archive the whole thing in one shot. Do you have a link for the archived forums?
 

Subtle_Rose

Dances with the daffodils.
They were NOT fully archived! I checked myself, and they don't have the forum threads at all! Just a heavily compressed version of the first page, with no pictures or links, and not even all the threads! Now everything will be lost! 😭
 

Xaerxiessia

Lost in Translation
Fully archived?
My experience with Wayback Machine is that only some pages are archived (and part of them are outdated, not getting last final version), but maybe we are lucky with whole old forum.
I was looking directly in the old forum for former replies I posted a long time ago in some threads.

Especially one on topics about the loss of Inherent bonuses after wrecked TRings & their probabilities of occurrences , where I replied to someone not having this problem along more than a hundred TRs and tackling other players on statistical theories:
"Your own sole experience is empirically not holistic !" which received a broad acclamation ^^

No traces of .
It looks like lots of pages were already purged.
 

The Blonde

Catalogues Bugs
The required URL format for directly viewing any old forum thread links that you already have is:

forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/ + 6 digit thread number + complete title, correctly formatted and with dashes (NO direct post number)

Works:

forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242-The-(New-and-Improved)-Hey-Lynnabel-Thread

Doesn't work:
forums.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242-The-(New-and-Improved)-Hey-Lynnabel-Thread
forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242
forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242-The-(New-and-Improved)-Hey-Lynnabel-Threa
forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242_The_(New_and_Improved)_Hey_Lynnabel_Thread
forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242-The-(New-and-Improved)-Hey-Lynnabel-Thread?p=6229042&viewfull=1#post6229042
 
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ShoeMaker

DDOwiki Steward
Works:
forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242-The-(New-and-Improved)-Hey-Lynnabel-Thread

Doesn't work:
forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242
forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499242-The-(New-and-Improved)-Hey-Lynnabel-Thread?p=6229042&viewfull=1#post6229042
Most of the forum threads that are on DDOwiki are these two formats to either take a reader directly to the post being cited OR to just the thread number because it's way shorter. DDOwiki volunteers have been doing their best to archive all of the forums-old links that we have. Hopefully we'll still be able to get SOME information from this particular archive and what we can't, well... we can't. It's just gone.
 

Mobius

I see what you did there
It's been my experience that navigating on the old forum archive is hit or miss i.e. you can't go to a heading and expect a full list of entries to populate under it. Often, it's only one or two posts.

You're much better off if you know the URL for the exact thread that you're looking for. You can search for topics externally & limit the search to the web.archive.org site, or you can start from the archive's own list of old DDO forum pages:

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/*
 

The Blonde

Catalogues Bugs
It's been my experience that navigating on the old forum archive is hit or miss i.e. you can't go to a heading and expect a full list of entries to populate under it. Often, it's only one or two posts.

You're much better off if you know the URL for the exact thread that you're looking for. You can search for topics externally & limit the search to the web.archive.org site, or you can start from the archive's own list of old DDO forum pages:

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/*
@ShoeMaker This is the way to get the correct URL for those cases where you only have a thread number. So there is no danger of anything being lost; it's just slightly inconvenient.

For the cases where the wiki links directly to a post, just trim the URL and add a comment noting the post's number and page.

Directly archiving the wiki's links is preferable of course, and the volunteers' work is commendable - I'm merely providing ways to salvage any links that are not directly archived by the time the old forums go down.
 

Speed

Well-known member
How about releasing old forum database export for community, but without any user data except names?
Someone could create some simple online read only viewer after importing it to own server.
 

ShoeMaker

DDOwiki Steward

Sympl

Well-known member
How would one go about accessing the old forum guide cited in this wiki article about "Killing Time" https://ddowiki.com/page/Killing_Time

The citation link is https://forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/499894, but the Wayback Machine doesn't seem to have saved it.
Is it lost for good?
It's there. You just have to get to it.
I've been playing around a lot with the way-back-machine's DDO forums backups trying to get access to old stuff I didn't self-archive and I've developed a little skill with it. It's not exactly straightforward. And super hard to link directly into for some posts for some reason. This one works:


So far I've had 99% success finding every thread I've wanted with the exception of a couple that returned errors. Apparently those pages got scanned during a moment when the (old forums) website was redirecting to the error splash page.
 

ShoeMaker

DDOwiki Steward
So far I've had 99% success finding every thread I've wanted with the exception of a couple that returned errors. Apparently those pages got scanned during a moment when the (old forums) website was redirecting to the error splash page.
I saw some of those while creating archives for the wiki, I retried some of them up to four or five times on different days with no success. Some of the pages were deleted off of the old forums and didn't exist to be archived for whatever reason (likely either they had some kind of exploit information or were in some way deemed inappropriate per SSG legal standards).
 

Jarlaxle

Member
Link on the wiki has been updated. Feel free to reach out on https://discord.me/DDOwiki if you need help with forums-old links on the wiki. Thanks.
Thanks. Updated link works now, it just takes a looooong time for the wayback machine to retrieve it. Is anyone worried that the wayback machine might not be as stable/long-lasting as we're assuming? Is there a particular limitation with the wiki or another reason why the 'content' of the guide and it's author couldn't be copy-pasted into a small wiki page? Just curious.
 

The Blonde

Catalogues Bugs
Thanks. Updated link works now, it just takes a looooong time for the wayback machine to retrieve it. Is anyone worried that the wayback machine might not be as stable/long-lasting as we're assuming? Is there a particular limitation with the wiki or another reason why the 'content' of the guide and it's author couldn't be copy-pasted into a small wiki page? Just curious.
There'll be wars fought before the Internet Archive is lost.
 

ShoeMaker

DDOwiki Steward
Thanks. Updated link works now, it just takes a looooong time for the wayback machine to retrieve it. Is anyone worried that the wayback machine might not be as stable/long-lasting as we're assuming? Is there a particular limitation with the wiki or another reason why the 'content' of the guide and it's author couldn't be copy-pasted into a small wiki page? Just curious.
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Mindos

CHAOTIC EVIL
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