The Vistani Mach R-O-B-O-T - The Machine for R8+ questing
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Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
Only if nothing in offhand
Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
Added an Endgame variant Spoiler tab (scroll down in the build guide and click on it to expand).
I did not thought that cahinz are so much fun on this build. I believed there is no more space to grow for this build but with SDK chainz the build has been completed. Found the missing puzzle piece. Soloing R8 is easy now at all content packs. Will add a video later.
Plan is to re-gear the build without setbonus on the weapon so it will free up some nice and useful swap availability for the different ingame situations.
I did not thought that cahinz are so much fun on this build. I believed there is no more space to grow for this build but with SDK chainz the build has been completed. Found the missing puzzle piece. Soloing R8 is easy now at all content packs. Will add a video later.
Plan is to re-gear the build without setbonus on the weapon so it will free up some nice and useful swap availability for the different ingame situations.
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kmoustakas
Scourge of Xaos
Been telling you about chains for years! (Well, since they changed chains)
Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
Ye but needed to have at least 12 Racial points
With the new raid kukri will be entertaining!
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Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
The aura is only for the +20 MP and could freeze mobs and reapers and a little dot damage proc. The build works without it I just love the extra freezes which helps surviveability in questing.
You can take any other class, like barb for +10% run speed or whatever you prefer.
ChilledMage
Well-known member
Whats your strikethrough chance?
ChilledMage
Well-known member
What do think about using Shattered Device filigrees + Sparkhorn or Melthorn on dino weapon for vulnerability or additional PRR debuffs instead of Icehorn?
Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
Zero. I use kukri ans Vistani tree. Got 5 different aoe melee strikes. Dont need strikethrough.
Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
You can swap prowess set to Shattered but in that case you need a swap weapon for the prowess 5p boost.
I have 1 weapon for trash with freeze and a 2nd for rednames and bosses with vulnerability.
ChilledMage
Well-known member
I don't have enough runes for two Attuned bone weapons so I'll stick with Prowess. Also I wanted to ask you, do you have any Bastard Sword arti builds?
Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
IMO B-sword is cool but the BE tree isn't good enough. If you wanna try a B-sword version just move that 41p from Vistani into BE and you need to take B-sword feat somewhere (maybe at lvl 13 and take quicken at 18 and Extend later at 30 instead of Epic Fortitude).
Yo also need minimum 13 str for Bsword and have to change Epic Destiny trees and filigrees for more strikethrough. I am not sure you can build a decent amount of strikethrough but I have never went deep in it.
kmoustakas
Scourge of Xaos
You can but you don't go shadar-kai (obviously). You go dwarf and daxes or warforged and bastard sword to grab their racial bonuses.
To make the most out of warforged you have to take two handed fighting (swf specialty) to open up the strikethrough in the racial tree so leveling is worse and you gotta invest in STR to get it to 17 for the feats. That's assuming you have racial points! WIth dwarf you don't even need the proficiency feat, just cast master's touch alongside your deadlies and your insightfuls. However being a warforged (or bladeforged) in r10s is not ideal.
Dwarf is way tankier (+dragonmark) while warforged is more dps. Can also go aasimar or human (dragonmark of making or even sentinel) or even half-elf for dragonmark of storm and dili.
It sucks that epic chimera's fang no longer gets +10 enhancement.
Zvdegor
Melee Artificer Freak
Ty for the detailed answer
I like the Vistani + RMM combo, because the Vistani tree offers not only offensive capability, but has got defensive synergy to the RMM tree at the same time.
Giving up Vistani means less tankyness and utility and even melee power.
I believe using D-axe or B-sword would start a changeover avalanche at every part of the build which would lead to a totally different setup and build.
But this is the way DDO evolvs!
ChilledMage
Well-known member
In my original build I was experimenting with Bastard Sword and I didn't like it, then I used a lesser heart of wood to try out this build instead. I'm at cap right now and I'm enjoying it! I was missing some of the gear so I had to use a different gearset though, as I don't have enough dino mats to be able to afford Dread Stalker set on dino Helm. I've used vecna docent, champions helm and duelist's cloak with Devil's Infernal Dance set bonus instead. Also missing some augment sets as well. But still I'm having fun with this build and I am looking forward to playing it again in the future once I get the proper gear. Thank you
TriggerHappy
Member
This build is the sole reason I’m still playing this game. I used to play hyper high end Wow and FFXIV (like too 5% in the world) as life progressed and real life happened I couldn’t devote 40+ hours a week to daily and weekly quests, not to mention raiding hours. DDO was a cute time sync, but then, oh man I tried your build. It clicked immediately, it made so much sense to my brain and it covered all of my bases. I’ve always played atypical builds, and pushed them hard like feral Druid in wow.
I certainly don't have the most past lives, I think maybe 18 or 20? So I'm not pushing this build to it's extremes but it's durable enough, and versatile enough that I feel like I can hop into any quest buff up and take off like a bat out of hell. The only downside is now I'm dreading doing my last handful of heroic lives to finish completionist because I can run this build. Also going to finally try hardcore next time, and will absolutely give this a try there as well. Thanks for everything Zvdegor.
I certainly don't have the most past lives, I think maybe 18 or 20? So I'm not pushing this build to it's extremes but it's durable enough, and versatile enough that I feel like I can hop into any quest buff up and take off like a bat out of hell. The only downside is now I'm dreading doing my last handful of heroic lives to finish completionist because I can run this build. Also going to finally try hardcore next time, and will absolutely give this a try there as well. Thanks for everything Zvdegor.
TriggerHappy
Member
Quick update for anyone considering this build, getting your weapon swap for enhanced bloodrage seems like a chore, but is absolutely worth it. I have my Goldcursed bound to Q and my swap to Alt+Q, just swap once it procs or needs to proc, super ez, extra damage for almost no work.
Shear-buckler
Master of reactions
Combined with all the other maintainance busywork we have to do it does become a chore, IMO.