The Weak Role of Nukers

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Unuys

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We see a melee r10 solo and a nuker r10 solo of the same quest where the COLD druid nuker has a substantial advantage because it's a FIRE monsters only quest basically.
And the Razorclaw Shifter which is supposed to be mainly single target dps clears the FIRE dungeon faster than a COLD druid. Do I need say more.
 
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Unuys

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Marshal_Lannes said:
Now do a melee that isn't a Razorclaw shifter. RS is bugged and allows for unintended melee power. I'm also astonished that you think completing an R10 quest in under 3 minutes proves that a Druid nuker is underpowered. So, yes, I do think you need to say more. Quite a bit more, actually.
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How is it bugged? That is new to me, can you explain?
 
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Ped Xing

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Kill the 3x constructs at the start, open door, drop down, wellspring, sprint boost, reaper spell power boost - ice flowers, BogW, tsunami, ice flowers - lance, comet - next pack, repeat - end fight, reaper boost, null magic, quench, spray boss, magic missle, time stop - dump on boss - dead.

What context do you need?
 
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Unuys

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Ped Xing said:
Kill the 3x constructs at the start, open door, drop down, wellspring, sprint boost, reaper spell power boost - ice flowers, BogW, tsunami, ice flowers - lance, comet - next pack, repeat - end fight, reaper boost, null magic, quench, spray boss, magic missle, time stop - dump on boss - dead.

What context do you need?
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Is it before the nerfs or after lol, that's the most important context. I have seen screenshots of that quest where people did it in 1 min and 7 seconds but the screenshot alone is worth literally nothing without a video in my opinion
 
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Unuys

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I believe you, my point still stands. It's a quest where cold druids have such a big advantage and while you were able to use that and get a good run, this issue is bigger than just the perfect screenshot. While druids don't need more power as you yourself mentioned, this is not a good state we are in right now. There is such a big variety of melee builds right now but the only nukers that are even considering staying at cap are cold druids and alchemists. I don't even see sorc nukers anymore because they fell off so hard.
 
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Ped Xing

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Unuys said:
... this is not a good state we are in right now. There is such a big variety of melee builds right now but the only nukers that are even considering staying at cap are cold druids and alchemists. I don't even see sorc nukers anymore because they fell off so hard.
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I agree with you fully.

All i do is pug r10s at cap on argo - i don't see any DPS sorcs anymore (maybe the odd one who is levelling and just trying to get some reaper XPs, they don't contribute much) I see a few druids and the odd alchemist. By far, my groups fill with melee. The pendulum has swung away from casters.
 
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erethizon1 said:
I absolutely agree that magic users are way behind at end game, but this is probably the worst way to go about proving it. Show how classes perform in legendary raids of all difficulties, and you will have a much better example of how weak magic users are.
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I mean nukers are fine on LH and r1 most of the times which is 99.99% of raiding. It's r10s where the problem lies and not raids in my opinion
 
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