Thrane event leaderboard

Bliv

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What it also tells me is that you can very quickly see who here has actually looked at the leaderboards in previous seasons.

I can tell right away who is legit and who is not.

And, aside from a very small number, everyone on there is playing by the rules. A simple glance is enough to confirm that.

Now, if you want to discredit the leaderboards because you don’t like this event, you can. Just remember that everyone—aside from those with past lives—is playing under the same rules.
 

Contessor

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I agree that it may be too late to fix it, and a PR nightmare to remove "cheaters" from the leaderboard individually. Might be better to just admit their mistake and take down the leaderboard entirely because it's just plain frustrating to see people exploiting the loophole so blatantly and still continue to let it be "glamourised".
Totally diagree that it is too late and it should be fixed period. As a matter of fact they should remove all vows of glory from any reincarnated characterr and revoke their earned rewards.

To me the rules posted are clear and people exploiting should not earn anything, period. I feel like if they do not fix it, that is a far worse PR nightmare, than explaining or even ignoring why they let it happen.

"You can only acquire a Winter Court Lute with a level 1 character that has received less than 1500 XP. A Reincarnated character with any Past Lives is unable to take up this challenge. When you take a Winter Court Lute you will receive a buff called a “Vow of Glory” that means you may only equip items that have dropped during the event. Nearly all magic items that drop while this event is running will have a special indicator on them so you know they are usable for the event. Anyone can equip these items whether you are taking up the Winter Court challenge or not. These items can be traded or auctioned based on their ability to do so without the Vow of Glory. Equipping an off-event item with a Vow of Glory active gives you a greatly impactful debuff. "

Turn off TRs for vows of glory as well. TR'ing in a HC event should not even be a thing to be honest.
 

Drunken.dx

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reminds me of first timed event in Monster hunter wilds.

leaderboards were FULL of cheaters and while it seemed Capcom won't do anything at first, they dropped ban hammers at anyone with suspicious time (ban in mhw means you can only play solo and can't join others).

that was DELICIOUS
 

Gimp

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Totally diagree that it is too late and it should be fixed period. As a matter of fact they should remove all vows of glory from any reincarnated characterr and revoke their earned rewards.

To me the rules posted are clear and people exploiting should not earn anything, period. I feel like if they do not fix it, that is a far worse PR nightmare, than explaining or even ignoring why they let it happen.

"You can only acquire a Winter Court Lute with a level 1 character that has received less than 1500 XP. A Reincarnated character with any Past Lives is unable to take up this challenge. When you take a Winter Court Lute you will receive a buff called a “Vow of Glory” that means you may only equip items that have dropped during the event. Nearly all magic items that drop while this event is running will have a special indicator on them so you know they are usable for the event. Anyone can equip these items whether you are taking up the Winter Court challenge or not. These items can be traded or auctioned based on their ability to do so without the Vow of Glory. Equipping an off-event item with a Vow of Glory active gives you a greatly impactful debuff. "

Turn off TRs for vows of glory as well. TR'ing in a HC event should not even be a thing to be honest.
Except...when the toon levels up and caps....why should they not be allowed to TR? Ive done this on multiple HC seasons. Maybe make it so the lutes dont survive TR. That would be fair. That way people cant game the system by eating boxes...and tring to get more powerful so they can get their lutes filled. I would be ok with that change.
 

Contessor

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Except...when the toon levels up and caps....why should they not be allowed to TR? Ive done this on multiple HC seasons. Maybe make it so the lutes dont survive TR. That would be fair. That way people cant game the system by eating boxes...and tring to get more powerful so they can get their lutes filled. I would be ok with that change.
I was just saying TR'ing should not be allowed. As a matter of fact spending reaper points should also not be allowed. This is hardcore.

But if you did, then you are a handful at this point.
 

The Narc2

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Totally diagree that it is too late and it should be fixed period. As a matter of fact they should remove all vows of glory from any reincarnated characterr and revoke their earned rewards.

To me the rules posted are clear and people exploiting should not earn anything, period. I feel like if they do not fix it, that is a far worse PR nightmare, than explaining or even ignoring why they let it happen.

"You can only acquire a Winter Court Lute with a level 1 character that has received less than 1500 XP. A Reincarnated character with any Past Lives is unable to take up this challenge. When you take a Winter Court Lute you will receive a buff called a “Vow of Glory” that means you may only equip items that have dropped during the event. Nearly all magic items that drop while this event is running will have a special indicator on them so you know they are usable for the event. Anyone can equip these items whether you are taking up the Winter Court challenge or not. These items can be traded or auctioned based on their ability to do so without the Vow of Glory. Equipping an off-event item with a Vow of Glory active gives you a greatly impactful debuff. "

Turn off TRs for vows of glory as well. TR'ing in a HC event should not even be a thing to be honest.
I agree mostly.

Definitely ssg should remove them from the leaderboards as it makes a mockery of everyone that is actually doing the leaderboards.

As for taking away their cosmetics, couldnt care less let them have them, our whole community has taken notes of the names of the cheaters on the board and as well noted the guilds they play in, we will be avoiding them in the future always As not my flavor of person/people to be around.

ban hammer is a little heavy as there is a very very small chance that someone used the exploit accidentally, using the exact actions required to make themselves appear on the leaderboard.

atleast these false leaderboard positions are only appearing on the reaper leaderboard which has always been a pay to win board anyways.


again @Cordovan please have your team remove the top three positions on the shadowdale reaper leaderboard as they were in obvious non hardcore players, with the lowest appearing instantly on the leaderboard with over 700 000 reaper xp.
 

Blueface

Member
Some level 2 just popped up out of nowhere on the Moonsea leaderboard with + 1 million xp. I'm doing the event for the cosmetic and because the death penalty adds a nice challenge and extra element of fear, but I was enjoying trying to keep in the top 10, a distant dream on an old hardcore server. Don't care about the why but can SSG please ensure this TR bug is sorted!
 

Blueface

Member
Totally diagree that it is too late and it should be fixed period. As a matter of fact they should remove all vows of glory from any reincarnated characterr and revoke their earned rewards.

To me the rules posted are clear and people exploiting should not earn anything, period. I feel like if they do not fix it, that is a far worse PR nightmare, than explaining or even ignoring why they let it happen.

"You can only acquire a Winter Court Lute with a level 1 character that has received less than 1500 XP. A Reincarnated character with any Past Lives is unable to take up this challenge. When you take a Winter Court Lute you will receive a buff called a “Vow of Glory” that means you may only equip items that have dropped during the event. Nearly all magic items that drop while this event is running will have a special indicator on them so you know they are usable for the event. Anyone can equip these items whether you are taking up the Winter Court challenge or not. These items can be traded or auctioned based on their ability to do so without the Vow of Glory. Equipping an off-event item with a Vow of Glory active gives you a greatly impactful debuff. "

Turn off TRs for vows of glory as well. TR'ing in a HC event should not even be a thing to be honest.
Why no TR? If you want all five lutes, without just grinding the same endgame quests, you will need multiple lives. In terms of the Reaper board, you are worse off TRing as you will have to grind through a load of low reaper point quests to re level. Max efficiency is just keep at the max level quests. As long as you pick up your lutes with an entirely vanilla character I see no problem with TR. It is the exploit of TRing a non vanilla character and then picking up the lutes which is an issue. A heavenly bolt, insta killing the character seems an appropriate resolution to me ;)
 

Sarlona Raiding

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Some level 2 just popped up out of nowhere on the Moonsea leaderboard with + 1 million xp. I'm doing the event for the cosmetic and because the death penalty adds a nice challenge and extra element of fear, but I was enjoying trying to keep in the top 10, a distant dream on an old hardcore server. Don't care about the why but can SSG please ensure this TR bug is sorted!

The specific bug is that if you tr into an iconic and then reset your xp you can claim exactly 1 lute. It won't let you claim another lute. There seems to be a logic bug - it shouldn't let you reset xp and claim a lute if you have past lifes, but if you are a level 1 iconic with past lifes it treats you like a first lifer if you reset your xp.

I think some people encountered it by accident and others are doing it because the entire event is borked.

Even though I am working on my stuff per the rules, it's frustrating that it will be tainted by the knowledge that it could be done illegitimately.
 
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