To me the transfer process is confusing and the Devs should spell it out better

[Matuse]

I'd like some kind of assurance that SSG Q&A actually set up three internal servers, 2 32 bit, 1 64 bit, had an account with very full shared and crafting banks, /packed characters on the two starter servers and moved them both to the destination server and EVERYTHING WORKED.

 

[tsotate]

Yes, you will need to run the Pack function on every character you wish to transfer to a new 64-bit game world. Edit: Adding to state that the reason for this is because the Pack function does more then just accumulate your account-level data, it also gets your character ready to transfer.

See, that's the problem. Many of us don't wish to transfer at all, but you're forcing it on us.

Edit: Even if the new servers are magically lag-free, it takes a lot of lag to add up to the amount of play time that we'll instead have to spend prepping accounts for transfer. I don't see why the transfer can't be automatic, with a free transfer window after that (All toons from server X and Y are now on Z. Anyone not happy being on Z can transfer until<date>)

It just seems like you're making the players do the work that should, frankly, be done by the people who are actually employed by the company.

 

[Sarlona Raiding]

very unfortunate wording on that.. maybe something like " the Reincarnation Cache" stays with the character during transfer.. keep it simple humans are stupid.

Agree, I don't think players care about what is packed and moved vs. just moved- we just want to know what's moved and not moved, but I think the reason they mentioned it is because stuff packed will be removed immediately while TR cache will still be there.

It really only matters if you don't move immediately and interact with things not "packed".

 

[Sarlona Raiding]

See, that's the problem. Many of us don't wish to transfer at all, but you're forcing it on us.

Edit: Even if the new servers are magically lag-free, it takes a lot of lag to add up to the amount of play time that we'll instead have to spend prepping accounts for transfer. I don't see why the transfer can't be automatic, with a free transfer window after that (All toons from server X and Y are now on Z. Anyone not happy being on Z can transfer until<date>)

It just seems like you're making the players do the work that should, frankly, be done by the people who are actually employed by the company.

I'm fine moving, but given all the problems we've heard about with LOTRO it's hard to envision this all working well and the 50ish day window from start to finish is a bit troubling. If there are issues, SSG doesn't have the resources to resolve anything complex and time-consuming.

Obviously the short window removes all doubt that this is anything but a long-term cost-saving move - likely mandated.

The worst 3 server issues I encountered in 2025 were all on Cormyr - some not too far away from the end of the event. Hopefully those have been resolved, but it remains to be seen.

 

[Greyhawk5]

It just seems like you're making the players do the work that should, frankly, be done by the people who are actually employed by the company.

This to be honest.

 

[Cordovan]

We'll have more information on the process as we get closer to the launch date, but for many people the process should be quite easy. Pack, move, unpack, and the process on a per character basis can take about maybe 30 seconds or so. Just about everything comes with you and little to no work is necessary on your part to prepare other then engage briefly with the Pack and Unpack function. You'll need to figure out who should go where, and yeah, many of us have a bunch of people on a bunch of servers, but the amount of "work" being required on your part also facilitates choice in a way that to do something else would remove that choice.

 

[Anurakh]

We'll have more information on the process as we get closer to the launch date, but for many people the process should be quite easy. Pack, move, unpack, and the process on a per character basis can take about maybe 30 seconds or so. Just about everything comes with you and little to no work is necessary on your part to prepare other then engage briefly with the Pack and Unpack function. You'll need to figure out who should go where, and yeah, many of us have a bunch of people on a bunch of servers, but the amount of "work" being required on your part also facilitates choice in a way that to do something else would remove that choice.

I'm quite happy with how you've done things, to be honest. If the process turns out to be bug-free, I'll be very satisfied.

My only complaint is that guilds shouldn't lose levels due to a forced transfer, but it's not something I'm too worried about. Of all the losses that can occur, this one is minor.

 

[toaf]

yes, after reading the post, i did feel comfortable with whats about to happen to my toons. i think favor points and flagging is the only thing i dont have information on. thats not bad

 

[Geezer]

If you are that worried, empty your TR cache and shared bank account then pack your toons and transfer.

Its what I will do on all my toons across all the servers.

Yeah but if you put all the tr cache items in your inventory and your inventory is full, then what the heck do you do with it when you unpack in the new server. You wont be able to put in anywhere so when you play there will be no room for anything new in your character inventory.

 

[Jasparius]

Yeah but if you put all the tr cache items in your inventory and your inventory is full, then what the heck do you do with it when you unpack in the new server. You wont be able to put in anywhere so when you play there will be no room for anything new in your character inventory.

I have my TR cache down to around 100 items. And could easily drop another 20. 64bit servers will be great at convincing people to get rid of the huge mount of junk they have accumulated.

 

[Vua]

Yeah but if you put all the tr cache items in your inventory and your inventory is full, then what the heck do you do with it when you unpack in the new server. You wont be able to put in anywhere so when you play there will be no room for anything new in your character inventory.

I've planned to clean out a number of bank toons for quite some time now. While I did clean up a few to make TRing go smoother on 2 characters I'm rotating between, I did not finish. So I think I'm going to finish that project and send a couple fairly empty bank toons through first. This will be my test to make sure the process goes smoothly before risking characters I care about, and also gives me room to empty out my inventories if needed. I don't plan to transfer characters with a TR cache or items in the shared bank. Unlike a lot of other people, I only utilize the shared bank for items, not for ingredients, so I don't have nearly as much to worry about.

 

[Geezer]

I have my TR cache down to around 100 items. And could easily drop another 20. 64bit servers will be great at convincing people to get rid of the huge mount of junk they have accumulated.

Thats not the point, I know people that have the tr cache down to 30 or so, but some people (like me) like to have more stuff. If we can just pack, transfer to a different server, then unpack and everything will be there along with the tr cache then everything will be fine. But with a move like this, you never know whats going to happen until you make the move.

 

[RangerOne]

You pack up and then you go. Kind of like in real life.

Why do people let TR caches hang around forever? My goal is to get that stuff back as soon as possible.

 

[Anurakh]

You pack up and then you go. Kind of like in real life.

Why do people let TR caches hang around forever? My goal is to get that stuff back as soon as possible.

Because there isn't enough space to store the entire cache in the bank xD. The BTC space that DDO provides us is anemic compared to the amount of items and builds (aka, new lives) that each character obtains and uses.

 

[PersonMan]

• Reincarnation Cache (Note: You can transfer through the Transfer Wizard with your Reincarnation Cache intact. You do not need to place your Cache into active inventory or storage prior to transfer.)

I mean this is pretty clear, but they can't really help it if humans are too stupid to read, ultimately they will just not read whatever else they write (I'm not calling you stupid, this was aimed at your humans are stupid comment)

The issue is they put that in a section grouped with the things that do not transfer at all, but actually reading it does help.

 

[tsotate]

Why do people let TR caches hang around forever? My goal is to get that stuff back as soon as possible.

Because items in cache don't influence loading times and getting stuck in load screens, but full personal bank and inventory do.

 

[danzig138]

It just seems like you're making the players do the work that should, frankly, be done by the people who are actually employed by the company.

Indeed! They should handle the entire process including using RNG to determine which server any given character ends up on.