'Trap the Soul' and soul gem drop rate

[Dragnipurake]

According to the ingame description and DDO wiki there should only be a will save when casting 'Trap the Soul'.

Target fails will save > target turns into soul gem (unless it is a construct).

Target saves > target is angry at you.

However, when farming soul gems from earth elementals there is a ratio of 1/5 to 1/6 that the elemental is killed but no soul gem drops.

Why is that?

Another save? Lag?

 

[rabidfox]

Are you running an epic mantle while farming (and the damage proc from that killing them)?

 

[saekee]

Just throwing this out there:

If you grab the level 21 hireling caster with Trap the Soul (I forget his name), you can go to the stone elemental lower room in The Lord of Eyes (https://ddowiki.com/page/The_Lord_of_Eyes) and use him to farm the respawning ellies to your heart’s content.
I did this years ago.

 

[Dragnipurake]

Are you running an epic mantle while farming (and the damage proc from that killing them)?

That seems to have been it.

I was running with the draconic mantle. I turned it off. Since then I actually started seeing successful will saves. But whenever they fail I get a gem drop.

Thanks!

 

[Dragnipurake]

Just throwing this out there:

If you grab the level 21 hireling caster with Trap the Soul (I forget his name), you can go to the stone elemental lower room in The Lord of Eyes (https://ddowiki.com/page/The_Lord_of_Eyes) and use him to farm the respawning ellies to your heart’s content.
I did this years ago.

Good to know.

Though I prefer "A Relic of Sovereign Past" since there I also get adamantine ore.