Fisto Mk I
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No, same Enhancement bonus from Occultation.
TWF Longsword SF - 14SF/5Rgr/1FvS
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Coffey
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I was thinking that child of faith is only +2 hit / damage and could be made up somewhere else.
Magnus Magister
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Dunno about that. +2 dmg and hit is actually +4 main stat (cha in our case). it seems kinda significant to me. If u need Force of personality so bad, maybe drop toughness?
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Coffey
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If you feel you need the extra will saves more than toughness it is such an easy double dip with CHA paladin.
RayRay Ramone
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Feat selection is weird. Discipline? Seriously? That +1 is worthless. Two weapon defense? Come on.
WielderofGigantus
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Discipline grants +5 PRR and MRR if you pick up the 2nd and 3rd core abilities of Grandmaster of Flowers. Two weapon defense grants +10 MRR Cap, which is very useful for those builds that can't use armor.
What feats would you take instead?
RayRay Ramone
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I would take dodge and mobility instead of discipline and precision. And then wwa at 6 instead of twd. Dodge % can be quite effective if you build for it. And ditch toughness. 34 hp at cap is nothing. Take precision there, since fort bypass isn't really needed in low-mid heroic anyway. And I'm not clear why he's holding off taking the TWF line until epics; isn't this a dps toon?
unbongwah
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Starting DEX 10 with +8 Supreme toon. The +7 doesn't kick in until level 19.
RayRay Ramone
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Seems like a bad call. Giving up 1 point of CHA at creation would help his DPS more.
Magnus Magister
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Seems like you havent done your homework.
CHA is 20 at creation, which is max for drow. What "giving up 1 point of CHA" are you talking about?
It is a DPS toon but made for end-game, not leveling. I am mentioning this at the first post several times.
There is absolutely no point to throw away 2 feats for Dodge and Mobility, since in end-game I reach 34 dodge standing in reaper. This the cap of dodge for this build. Where exactly these two feats would help since they dont increase the dodge cap?
34 dodge standing is great and if you include the dodge from Ellaborate parry (55 in total with 90 sec cooldown) and 330 prr the defences are great for a front line dps.
TWD provides not only PRR but MRR cap which is so much needed in this build.
Discipline provides PRR and MRR from GMoF cores.
The only feat that I missed in that build but I use in my current build is Improved martial arts.
Toughness is not only 34 HP. It is alot more if u count the +25% hp from enhancements etc.
The TWF are so down the line due to DEX restrictions.
But as I said many times, it is not a leveling toon.
Have a good day.
RayRay Ramone
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Whirling Steel Strike feat allows you to stay centered, you just need to have longsword proficiency which you can get with a couple of races or deity. Or take longsword as a feat too.
OK, I just dont see in this build that he takes long sword proficiency or that he takes Whirling Steel Strike as a feat.
Rhunah
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Ranger get it
Magnus Magister
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You can take it as a feat (https://ddowiki.com/page/Whirling_Steel_Strike) or from Grandmaster of Flowers epic destiny tier 2 multiselector (Lotus Blades: Multiselector: Long Sword (https://ddowiki.com/page/Grandmaste...s_Character_Level_20,_5_points_spent_in_tree).
In this particular build I used the one from ED in the end game, since that free me a feat slot. I think I used the feat until epics and swaped it.