U65 - Swashbuckling Rogue

[Zingy]

Hello everyone,

I've had a few people ask me about my build so I figured I would share it here. I made this build to be self sustainable in R10s and raids, while also having fairly decent damage (x5 multiplier, x7 on 19-20).

The nice thing about this build is the amount of CC you have. Guard Breaking is the biggest thing, considering how much you will be critting with a 15-20 crit threat range. You will also have paralyze from the hand axe, knock down from chain attacks and knock down from Adrenaline.

If you want to see how the build performs in an R10 setting, you're welcome to check out the video below:

DISCLAIMER: This build was made with racial completionist in mind.

Character name: Zingy
Classes: 11 Rogue, 10 Epic, 6 Barbarian, 3 Bard, 2 Legendary
Race: Shadar-Kai· · · · · ·Alignment: Chaotic Neutral

· · ·Start Tome Final · · ·Incorp:· · ·0% · · ·Displacement:· ·25%
Str:· · 18· · 8 · 112 · · ·HP:· · · ·4316 · · ·AC:· ·177
Dex:· · 10· · 8 · ·72 · · ·PRR: · · · 218
Con:· · 18· · 8 · ·88 · · ·MRR: · · · ·91 · · ·+Healing Amp:· ·134
Int:· · 12· · 8 · ·68 · · ·Dodge: · 30/30 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · 40
Wis:· · ·8· · 8 · ·58 · · ·Fort:· · ·183% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · 82
Cha:· · ·6· · 8 · ·37 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 21
DR: 4%
Immunities: Magic Missiles, Fear, Freedom of Movement, Death Effects, Falling Damage

Saves:
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Fortitude:· · · · ·87
· vs Poison:· · · ·91
· vs Disease: · · ·88
Will: · · · · · · ·61
· vs Enchantment: ·68
· vs Illusion:· · ·67
· vs Fear:· · · · ·70
· vs Curse: · · · ·61
Reflex: · · · · · ·92
· vs Traps: · · · 103
· vs Spell: · · · ·95
· vs Magic: · · · ·92

Class and Feat Selection
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Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
1 · · Rogue(1)· · · · ·Standard: Single Weapon Fighting
2 · · Bard(1) · · · · ·
3 · · Bard(2) · · · · ·Standard: Dodge
4 · · Bard(3) · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
5 · · Rogue(2)· · · · ·
6 · · Barbarian(1)· · ·Standard: Mobility
7 · · Barbarian(2)· · ·
8 · · Barbarian(3)· · ·Strength: +1 Level up
9 · · Barbarian(4)· · ·Standard: Spring Attack
10· · Barbarian(5)· · ·
11· · Barbarian(6)· · ·
12· · Rogue(3)· · · · ·Standard: Improved Single Weapon Fighting
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
13· · Rogue(4)· · · · ·
14· · Rogue(5)· · · · ·
15· · Rogue(6)· · · · ·Standard: Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
16· · Rogue(7)· · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
17· · Rogue(8)· · · · ·
18· · Rogue(9)· · · · ·Standard: Greater Single Weapon Fighting
19· · Rogue(10) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Opportunist
20· · Rogue(11) · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Overwhelming Critical
22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Shield Mastery
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Doublestrike
26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·
27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Improved Shield Mastery
28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Crush Weakness
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Strength: +1 Level up
29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·
30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Whirlwind Attack
· · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Scion of the Ethereal Plane
31· · Legendary(1)· · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Harbinger of Chaos
32· · Legendary(2)· · ·Strength: +1 Level up

Skills
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Skill Points· · ·36 ·8· 8 ·8 10 ·6· 7 ·7· 7 ·7· 7 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 12
Skill Name· · · ·01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20· Total Buffed
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Balance · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7.0 · 79.0
Bluff · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 54.0
Concentration · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 73.0
Diplomacy · · · · 4 ·1· 1 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4 ·6· 4 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 75.0
Disable Device· · 4 · · 1 ·1· 2 · · 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·2· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 89.0
Haggle· · · · · · 4 ·1· 1 ·1· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2 ·5· 5 ·4· ·23.0 · 71.0
Heal· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 59.0
Hide· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 67.0
Intimidate· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 50.0
Jump· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 88.0
Listen· · · · · · 3 ·1· 2 ·1· · ·2· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 · · · ·1· 3 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 81.0
Move Silently · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 64.0
Open Lock · · · · 4 · · · · · 1 ·1· · · · · · · · ·6· 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 ·108.0
Perform · · · · · · ·3· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3.0 · 54.0
Repair· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 65.0
Search· · · · · · 4 · · · ·1· 3 · · 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·2· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 ·102.0
Spell Craft · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 0.0 · 73.0
Spot· · · · · · · 4 · · · · · 3 · · · · · · · · · · · 4 ·6· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 ·113.0
Swim· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ·1· · 1.0 · 90.0
Tumble· · · · · · 1 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1.0 · 70.0
Use Magic Device· 4 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· 1 ·1· ·23.0 · 72.0
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Enhancements: 80 APs, Racial 16, Universal 2
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Shadar-Kai - Points spent: 18
Core1 Grit
Tier1 Vicious Chain
Core2 Ability I: Intelligence
Core3 Shadow Phase
Core4 Shadow Jaunt
Core5 Empowered Jaunt
Tier2 Forceful Chain
Tier2 Guile I
Tier3 Ghastly Chain
Tier3 Displacement
Tier3 Guile II
Tier4 Greater Spiked Chain Attack
Tier4 Assassin's Mark
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Frenzied Berserker - Points spent: 34
Core1 Die Hard
Tier1 Extra Rage - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Power Rage - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Cracking Attack - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Athletics - 3 Ranks
Core2 Frenzied Toughness I
Tier2 Body Blow - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Extra Action Boost - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Sprint Boost - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Constitution I
Core3 Frenzy
Tier4 Constitution II
Tier4 Crazy Strike - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Healing or Hurt: Raging Blows
Tier5 Focused Wrath - 2 Ranks
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Swashbuckler - Points spent: 11
Core1 Confidence
Tier1 Limber Up - 3 Ranks
Tier1 On Your Toes - 3 Ranks
Core2 Swashbuckling
Tier2 Fast Movement
Tier3 Swashbuckling Style: Skirmisher
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Vistani Knife Fighter - Points spent: 11
Core1 Knife Expertise
Tier1 Undead Hunter
Tier1 Mist Stalker I
Tier1 Acrobatic - 2 Ranks
Core2 Knife Juggler
Tier2 Haste Boost - 3 Ranks
Core3 Quick Reflexes
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Ravager - Points spent: 1
Core1 Furious Rage
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Harper Agent - Points spent: 10
Core1 Agent of Good I
Tier1 Harper Enchantment
Tier1 Traveller's Toughness - 2 Ranks
Tier2 Know the Angles - 3 Ranks
Core2 Harper Training I: +1 Intelligence
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Assassin - Points spent: 13
Core1 Knife in the Darkness
Tier1 Sneak Attack Training I
Tier1 Venomed Blades - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Sneak Attack Training II
Tier2 Toxin Affinity - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Sneak Attack Training III
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Epic Destinies: 40 APs + 27 permanent Destiny Points
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Legendary Dreadnought - Points spent: 34
Core1 Fearless
Tier1 Push Through The Line - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Dread Mantle
Tier2 Combat Brute
Tier2 Life and Death - 3 Ranks
Core2 Weaponmaster
Tier2 Extra Action Boosts - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Honor or Backstab: Backstab - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Ghost Touch
Core3 Thick Skinned
Tier3 Strike Twice - 3 Ranks
Tier3 Armor of Dusk - 2 Ranks
Core4 Unparalleled Accuracy
Tier4 Strike with Fear
Tier4 Kick While They're Down - 3 Ranks
Tier5 Action Hero
Tier5 Dusk Surge
Tier5 Legendary Rally: Legendary Rally (Melee)
Tier5 Overpower: Lacerator
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Fury of the Wild - Points spent: 32
Core1 Die Hard
Tier1 Epic Strike: Adrenaline - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Enduring - 1 Ranks
Core2 Die Harder
Tier2 Primal Scream
Tier2 I'm Always Angry - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Speed or Strength: Fast and Furious - 3 Ranks
Tier2 Gird against Demons
Core3 Die Hardest
Tier3 Force of Fury: Furious Force - 3 Ranks
Core4 Be the Whirlwind
Tier4 Unquenchable Rage - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Force Selector: Overwhelming Force - 3 Ranks
Tier4 Wade Through: Wade Through - Doublestrike - 3 Ranks
Tier4 The Voice of Fury
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Shadowdancer - Points spent: 9
Core1 Shadow Training
Tier1 Cover of Darkness - 3 Ranks
Tier1 Technician - 1 Ranks
Tier2 Dance in the Dark - 3 Ranks
Core2 Step Through Shadows
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Equipped Gear Set: Standard
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Armor · · · · Legendary University Bulkwark's Reinforced Shirt· ·Drops in: Quest: Grand Theft Aureon, End chest
· · · · · · · +15 Enhancement Bonus
· · · · · · · Physical Sheltering +36
· · · · · · · Fortification +153%
· · · · · · · Parrying +6
· · · · · · · Freedom of Movement
· · · · · · · Lost Purpose: Legendary Devil's Infernal Dance
· · · · · · · Green: +5 Diamond of Insightful Dexterity
· · · · · · · Colorless: +2 Festive Strength
Belt· · · · · Legendary Buckle of Transformation· ·Drops in: Quest: Law and Order, End chest
· · · · · · · Strength +14
· · · · · · · Insightful Doublestrike +7%
· · · · · · · Insightful Deadly +5
· · · · · · · Cannith Combat Infusion
· · · · · · · Green: +48 Sapphire of False Life
· · · · · · · Colorless: Ravil's Book of Legendary Recipes
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Curse of the Shadowed
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Boots · · · · Legendary Steel-Toed Steps· ·Drops in: Quest: Turn the Page (quest), End chest
· · · · · · · Insightful Strength +6
· · · · · · · Quality Combat Mastery +3
· · · · · · · Speed +30%
· · · · · · · Diehard
· · · · · · · Green: +10 Topaz of Melee Power
· · · · · · · Colorless: +14 Diamond of Dexterity
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Curse of Cruelty
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Bracers · · · Bloodbark Bracers · Drops in: U48: Feytwisted Chest
· · · · · · · Raging Strength 3
· · · · · · · Improved Deception
· · · · · · · Speed +30%
· · · · · · · Quality Doublestrike +3%
· · · · · · · Green: +20 Diamond of Spot
· · · · · · · Eminence of Spring
Cloak · · · · Page Regalia: Exiled Tactica· ·Drops in: Raid: Fire Over Morgrave, end chest
· · · · · · · Undying +112
· · · · · · · Profane Combat Mastery +3
· · · · · · · Insightful Armor-Piercing +11%
· · · · · · · Legendary Electric Storm
· · · · · · · Lost Purpose: Legendary Devil's Infernal Dance
· · · · · · · Green: Sapphire of Greater Heroism
· · · · · · · Yellow: +2 Festive Constitution
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Curse of Minor Perception
Gloves· · · · Legendary Absorption Gauntlet · Drops in: Quest: Taken in Hand, End chest
· · · · · · · Competence Elemental Resistance +15
· · · · · · · Insightful Magical Sheltering +17
· · · · · · · Quality Spellsight +5
· · · · · · · Fire Absorption +36%
· · · · · · · Green: Globe of True Imperial Blood
· · · · · · · Colorless: +14 Diamond of Wisdom
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Curse of Butterflies
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Goggles · · · Legendary Raven's Sight · Drops in: Quest: The Last Stand, Base Item plus crafting in the 12
· · · · · · · Insightful Wisdom +6
· · · · · · · Will Save +11
· · · · · · · Accuracy +21
· · · · · · · True Seeing
· · · · · · · Green: +20 Diamond of Open Lock
· · · · · · · Colorless: +5 Diamond of Insightful Intelligence
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Curse of Major Prowess
· · · · · · · Legendary Raven's Eye
Helmet· · · · Legendary University Champion's Helm· ·Drops in: Quest: Party 101, End chest
· · · · · · · Deadly +11
· · · · · · · Accuracy +22
· · · · · · · Armor-Piercing +22%
· · · · · · · Seeker +14
· · · · · · · Lost Purpose: Legendary Devil's Infernal Dance
· · · · · · · Green: Sapphire of Good Luck + 3
· · · · · · · Colorless: +5 Diamond of Insightful Constitution
· · · · · · · Mythic: +1 Mythic Shield Boost
· · · · · · · Reaper: Reaper Ability Boost
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Curse of Divine Fortune
Necklace· · · Legendary Blademark Amulet· ·Drops in: Quest: The Bark and the Blade, End chest
· · · · · · · Fortitude +12
· · · · · · · Profane Lifeforce +48
· · · · · · · Insightful Physical Sheltering +17
· · · · · · · Repair Amplification +57
· · · · · · · Green: +54 Sapphire of Healing Amplification
· · · · · · · Colorless: +14 Diamond of Constitution
· · · · · · · Reaper: +3 Reaper Power Boost
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
Ring1 · · · · Legendary Ring of Unbridled Might· ·Drops in: Quest: Astral Ambush, end chest
· · · · · · · Quality Strength +3
· · · · · · · Insightful Stunning +7
· · · · · · · Insightful Shatter +7
· · · · · · · Insightful Accuracy +10
· · · · · · · Green: Emerald of Greater Rage
· · · · · · · Colorless: Cruel Cut
· · · · · · · This augment will suppress any set bonus this item may have.
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Curse of Minor Warding
Ring2 · · · · Dinosaur Bone Ring· ·Drops in: The Isle of Dread, any legendary chest; or Dread saga legendary end reward
· · · · · · · IoD: Accessory: Artifact Scale Slot: Scale: +15 Strength
· · · · · · · IoD: Accessory: Artifact Fang Slot: Fang: Deception +12
· · · · · · · IoD: Accessory: Artifact Claw Slot: Claw: +38 Magical Resistance Rating
· · · · · · · IoD: Accessory: Artifact Horn Slot: Horn: Relentless Fury
· · · · · · · Blue: The Legendary Book of Defense: Reflexes
· · · · · · · Green: Emerald of Arcane Empowerment
· · · · · · · Yellow: Cruel Cut
· · · · · · · This augment will suppress any set bonus this item may have.
· · · · · · · Filigree 1: Sucker Punch/One Against Many: +2 Strength(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 2: Shattered Device: Strength(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 3: Dreadbringer: Melee Power(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 4: Dreadbringer: Tactics DC(Rare Version)
Trinket · · · Legendary Gem of Many Facets· ·Drops in: Raid: The Chronoscope, Base Item plus crafting in the 12
· · · · · · · Legendary Facets Set Bonus 1: Empty augment slot
· · · · · · · Legendary Facets Set Bonus 2: Legendary Raven's Eye
· · · · · · · Cannith Trinket Prefix: +36 Cold Absorption
· · · · · · · Cannith Trinket Suffix: +36 Electric Absorption
· · · · · · · Cannith Trinket Extra: +6 Insightful Seeker
· · · · · · · Yellow: Legendary Moment to Legendary Moment
· · · · · · · Deck Curse: Empty augment slot
Weapon1 · · · Char, the Hellstorm's Edge· ·Drops in: Raid: Fire Over Morgrave, end chest
· · · · · · · Damage and Type 5[1d6+3] + 15 Slash, Magic
· · · · · · · Critical Threat Range 20 x3
· · · · · · · +15 Enhancement Bonus
· · · · · · · Stormreaver's Thunderclap
· · · · · · · Overwhelming Incineration
· · · · · · · 3rd Degree Burns
· · · · · · · Cursed Maelstrom
· · · · · · · Planar Searing
· · · · · · · Orange: Ruby of Good DR Bypass
· · · · · · · Purple: Feareater
· · · · · · · Legendary Forbidden Knowledge
· · · · · · · Filigree 1: Sucker Punch/One Against Many: +2 Strength(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 2: Shattered Device: Melee Power
· · · · · · · Filigree 3: Shattered Device: Attack and Damage(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 4: Shattered Device: Strength(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 5: Dreadbringer: Melee Power(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 6: Dreadbringer: Strength(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 7: Dreadbringer: Tactics DC(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 8: The Long Shadow: Melee Power(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 9: The Long Shadow: Attack and Damage(Rare Version)
· · · · · · · Filigree 10: Sucker Punch: Melee Power(Rare Version)
Weapon2 · · · Shield of the Hunter· ·Drops in: Raid: Hunt or be Hunted
· · · · · · · Damage and Type 5[1d6+4] + 15 Bludgeon, Magic
· · · · · · · Critical Threat Range 19-20 x3
· · · · · · · +15 Enhancement Bonus
· · · · · · · Impact
· · · · · · · Guardbreaking
· · · · · · · Doublestrike +16%
· · · · · · · Armor-Piercing +22%
· · · · · · · Red: +14 Diamond of Intelligence
· · · · · · · Purple: Cruel Cut
· · · · · · · This augment will suppress any set bonus this item may have.
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[BiggerTrolls]

Thank you for the video and detailed breakdown.

I didnt add up the melee power or doublestrike, but it looked mighty!

I think I have most of the gear, sans shield and a few augments. What are the critical items? Guardbreaking, armor piercing, that kinda stuff?

Thanks for the item details!

 

[Zingy]

Thank you for the video and detailed breakdown.

I didnt add up the melee power or doublestrike, but it looked mighty!

I think I have most of the gear, sans shield and a few augments. What are the critical items? Guardbreaking, armor piercing, that kinda stuff?

Thanks for the item details!

Melee power was sitting at 286 in reaper, a bit low compared to some builds. Could push over 300, but I lacked mythic/reaper bonuses and 1 rare filigree. +50 from Prowess swapping.

Doublestrike was sitting at 97%. 102% when Cannith Combat Infusion procs.

After playing an Offhand Versatility version of the build (great for raids), I really missed the survivability that Guard Breaking provided in R10s. So I'd say the shield is the most critical item in the build for me personally.

As nice as Raven's Eye set is, it's not going to be a huge loss if you don't have it right now. Having the Legendary Devil's Infernal Dance and the 5 piece Legendary Forbidden Knowledge sets are more important, since they will cover most of the bonuses you need for the build to function.

 

[Glargfest]

Do you think dragon lord would be a viable alternative to barb? The roar and tactics dcs bonuses seem real nice. And you probably wouldn’t lose much survivability with the offhand versatility alternative. Obviously it’s not out yet, but it’d be interesting to hear a super player’s thoughts

 

[Zingy]

It's definitely something that I have considered. On paper is seems like it would synergize very well with my current build. It would free up points in Vistani and all of the points in Harper that could be spent elsewhere. There's a lot of potential, though I probably won't do any theory crafting until the archetype has been finalized.

 

[warlock player]

Can this be done on scoundrel Iconic race?

Maybe 11 fvs/clr - 6 brb - 3 brd and cha as main stat? Or stick with str?

Thanks

 

[Fisto Mk I]

Can this be done on scoundrel Iconic race?

Maybe 11 fvs/clr - 6 brb - 3 brd and cha as main stat? Or stick with str?

Thanks

Any 1H-weapon build without SK chain is gimp. Sad but true. 8)

 

[warlock player]

Any 1H-weapon build without SK chain is gimp. Sad but true. 8)

Thanks

 

[Zingy]

Can this be done on scoundrel Iconic race?

Maybe 11 fvs/clr - 6 brb - 3 brd and cha as main stat? Or stick with str?

Thanks

If you're doing it for a past life it would work fine, but would fall short at endgame due to the lack of AoE (chains) and damage via SA that the rogue levels provide. Personally, I would choose STR as the main stat and have CHA as secondary for a trance. STR has a lot more stacking bonuses (rage, etc.) and melee based filigree sets are more suited for those trying to maximize STR or DEX while also netting the benefit of the filigree sets (MP, doublestrike, fort bypass). Hope this info helps.

 

[unbongwah]

Can this be done on scoundrel Iconic race?

If you switch away from SDK, you lose the racial chain attacks which are great AoE damage for this sort of SWF build. So the immediate question is: what do you replace them with? Cleaves and/or Whirlwind Attack? Adds a feat tax to a feat-starved build; you can see OP's build doesn't take WWA until level 30. Supreme Cleave and En Pointe? Free from Swashbuckler and Frenzied Berserker trees so any bardbarian gets them.

Dragon Lord is about to add an alternative to barbarian since either class can get +2 crit multiplier from its Tier-5s. Switching to fighter will give some bonus feats to help out if you want WWA sooner, as well as the STR Battle Trance if you decide to combine with Strength-domain cleric. But now you're talking about a build which is less focused on DPS and maybe more focused on self-sufficiency, e.g., bard 3 / Dragon Lord 6 / cleric 11 (Heal spell).

 

[warlock player]

If you're doing it for a past life it would work fine, but would fall short at endgame due to the lack of AoE (chains) and damage via SA that the rogue levels provide. Personally, I would choose STR as the main stat and have CHA as secondary for a trance. STR has a lot more stacking bonuses (rage, etc.) and melee based filigree sets are more suited for those trying to maximize STR or DEX while also netting the benefit of the filigree sets (MP, doublestrike, fort bypass). Hope this info helps.

It helped. I think I'll stick with STR, as also my items are mostly geared toward str builds.

So if I just copy your build on a scoundrel.. with rogue and all is it going to be better? I do like the SA and opportunist and stuff, but not sure if having self heal / trance would be nicer..

Also, what do you have in terms of CC? Do you use dire charge?

 

[Zingy]

It helped. I think I'll stick with STR, as also my items are mostly geared toward str builds.

So if I just copy your build on a scoundrel.. with rogue and all is it going to be better? I do like the SA and opportunist and stuff, but not sure if having self heal / trance would be nicer..

Also, what do you have in terms of CC? Do you use dire charge?

More self healing is always nice, but I self healed just fine using rage charges via Unquenchable Rage. I believe I had 13 rage charges to work with for healing + Primal Scream applying the same heal on a 30 second CD.

My main source of CC was guard breaking but also had chains knock down, adrenaline knock down, and paralyze from the hand-axe proc (~5% chance on hit). I did mess around with Dire Charge, but it wasn't very reliable. The tactical DC's were there, but the targeting was very wonky.

Copying the build as a scoundrel will be fine for single target DPS, but unless you change up the enhancements a bit to include Supreme Cleave, your AoE will be severely lacking and even then it likely won't perform the same.

 

[EinarMal]

I mostly play casters but I'm looking to switch when the latest update goes live. This build is really close to what I was thinking, thanks for posting!

Is there a reason you don't take shield mastery specialty at 31 instead of the two feats? Maybe the stacking combat style bonus or something else?

I think for the DL lord version this is what I came up with.

Progression:
1-Rogue
2 thru 4-Bard
5 thru 9 - Dragonlord
11 thru 20 - Rogue

I debated DL5 or DL6 I went Rogue 12 to take the epic sneak attack feat.

Enhancements (98)
Dragonlord 40
Racial 18
Assassin 23
Swashbuckler 14
Thief Acrobat 3

Not certain about the cost of T5 Dragonlord, assuming 10 points for all of them.

Feats: (7 +2 FB +1 RB + 1DL Aura)
1-SWF
3-Dodge
5-(DL Aura) Thraxata's Instinct
6-Mobility
6-(FB) Spring Attack
8-(FB) ISWF
9-Whirlwind Attack
12-IC Slashing
15-GSWF
18-Power Attack
18-(RB) Opportunist
21-OC
22-PSWF
24-Doublestrike
25-Crush Weakness
27-Improved Sneak Attack
28-Harbringer of Chaos
30-Epic Damage Reduction
30-Scion of Arborea
31-Shield Mastery Specialty

 

[Mesmerin]

If you're doing it for a past life it would work fine, but would fall short at endgame due to the lack of AoE (chains) and damage via SA that the rogue levels provide. Personally, I would choose STR as the main stat and have CHA as secondary for a trance. STR has a lot more stacking bonuses (rage, etc.) and melee based filigree sets are more suited for those trying to maximize STR or DEX while also netting the benefit of the filigree sets (MP, doublestrike, fort bypass). Hope this info helps.

I found the annoying thing was having to dismiss rage whenever I needed to trap. Not a problem for raids, but questing it's a pita.

 

[Zingy]

Is there a reason you don't take shield mastery specialty at 31 instead of the two feats? Maybe the stacking combat style bonus or something else?

This is just one of many variations that I've tested when theory crafting the build. I spent 3-4 months play testing different splits with various feat choices.

Since I wasn't 12 rogue I couldn't make use of Improved Sneak Attack as a feat option and I didn't really need the additional doublestrike from Shield Mastery Specialty because I was already close to hard-capping doublestrike (over-capped with Cannith Combat Infusion). I chose to take 6 Barb for the secondary imbue to give the build more options when dealing with enemies that are immune to poison. The ideal split would be 12/5/3, taking Improved Sneak Attack and Shield Mastery Specialty if you're wanting to min-max your damage output.

There are numerous ways this can be built, even more so now with DL. Hope you have fun with your DL version.

 

[Zingy]

I found the annoying thing was having to dismiss rage whenever I needed to trap. Not a problem for raids, but questing it's a pita.

I didn't care much for dismissing rage to trap either (unless it was absolutely necessary), so I would just say "I'm not that kind of rogue", and would usually get a free pass. ?

 

[EinarMal]

This is just one of many variations that I've tested when theory crafting the build. I spent 3-4 months play testing different splits with various feat choices.

Since I wasn't 12 rogue I couldn't make use of Improved Sneak Attack as a feat option and I didn't really need the additional doublestrike from Shield Mastery Specialty because I was already close to hard-capping doublestrike (over-capped with Cannith Combat Infusion). I chose to take 6 Barb for the secondary imbue to give the build more options when dealing with enemies that are immune to poison. The ideal split would be 12/5/3, taking Improved Sneak Attack and Shield Mastery Specialty if you're wanting to min-max your damage output.

There are numerous ways this can be built, even more so now with DL. Hope you have fun with your DL version.

Awesome thank you for posting the build and the extra info!

 

[unbongwah]

I chose to take 6 Barb for the secondary imbue to give the build more options when dealing with enemies that are immune to poison.

Maybe I missed something but why didn't you use Resonant Arms (Sonic Imbue) instead?

 

[FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted]

i remember doing this build back in ye olden days when SDK had just been revamped. while I never got credit for "making" the build (as I didn't share it), I do like to see how far its come from those days when I was still figuring out how to do the endgame. glad to see this great build carrying over to a better player than me. cant wait to see what happens with dragonlord and this build

 

[Zingy]

Maybe I missed something but why didn't you use Resonant Arms (Sonic Imbue) instead?

I have to admit, after a certain point (months of staring at multiple build files) I started to get tunnel vision when trying to optimize the build. This would be better than Frenzy if you can squeeze in a decent amount of sonic spell power (assuming it scales off 100% spell power) which would free up the 1 level of Barbarian to do the 12/5/3 split for Improved Sneak Attack in epics. This is my first real attempt at a multi-class melee build, so there is definitely room for improvement. Thanks for the feedback.