Sarlona Raiding
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- Chaos Control II: If you would get a Very Bad or Bad Wild Magic Surge, you get a Neutral one instead. (requires Chaos Control I).
U68 Preview 1: Wild Magic & Surges General Info
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Except that is only available to Wild Mages (which are pretty bad to be honest). So other casters will risk getting a very bad effect when in a dark magic zone.
Overall the Wild Magic Surges looks very much like a nerf to casters because the bad stuff is really bad and the good stuff is only nice. Meanwhile the Wild Mage looks weaker than a regular sorc with no real end game potential.
Choose your own wild magic path in core1
1st path for summons
2nd path for DPS
3d path for buffing your party
4th path debuffing enemies
Increase frequency of wild magic surges and increase variety to include but not limited to: vampirism, ender, flat HP buff, night revels buffs, attack speed buff (stacking), attack speed debuff(works on red named), 10% chance for chaos hammer or some other shizzle on spellcast/melee/ranged attack, more confusion, daze, cower, perma charm, perma dominate and don’t make the effects useless have all the effects scale properly and don’t make them ridiculously OP but it is alright if there are a few very nice effects.
Also leave out all the bad/very bad/ neutral stuff that just sucks. Include good effects only.
Tier5 will allow you to select a 2nd path so able to toggle when needed.
Wild surge is way too random and if this goes live without major tweaking this is gonna drive players mad.
This needs at least 3 more months to get ready.
1st path for summons
2nd path for DPS
3d path for buffing your party
4th path debuffing enemies
Increase frequency of wild magic surges and increase variety to include but not limited to: vampirism, ender, flat HP buff, night revels buffs, attack speed buff (stacking), attack speed debuff(works on red named), 10% chance for chaos hammer or some other shizzle on spellcast/melee/ranged attack, more confusion, daze, cower, perma charm, perma dominate and don’t make the effects useless have all the effects scale properly and don’t make them ridiculously OP but it is alright if there are a few very nice effects.
Also leave out all the bad/very bad/ neutral stuff that just sucks. Include good effects only.
Tier5 will allow you to select a 2nd path so able to toggle when needed.
Wild surge is way too random and if this goes live without major tweaking this is gonna drive players mad.
This needs at least 3 more months to get ready.
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woq
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I'd highly reconsider putting something as rough as -50% spell fail to not be in the "neutral" category. That looks like a rather bad one for anyone actually affected by spell fail (so... people casting spells). Bad Weather also looks like an instagib on r10, which is... potentially pretty damn unfun. Guess better have absorb swaps on the ready at all times, and not play high reaper in early heroics in wild magic areas.
Stuff:
Very Good Surge:
Target is affected by a (visible) bomb, that after 3 seconds explodes and inflicts a miniature Timestop: targets in a small area are disabled for 8 seconds, or in case of a redname or immune target, takes 30% more damage for 8 seconds.
Good:
+5d200 temp Spell Points to everyone in group that last 90 seconds.
Neutral:
You either create a stationary wild magic area around you, or create a stationary sphere that dispels the existing wild magic area in it for 30 seconds (visible: maybe a similar gfx to the Starlight zone, only.. primal, wild, chaotic).
Very Bad:
You get the "Dance, dance!" thing from Feywild Dryad raid
You summon a hostile Doomsphere (ok maybe something more tame would be more appropriate, but im evil)
I actually like random concepts, but they often are hard to pull off in video games people gotta play a lot ./ with plenty of repetition. I hope you don't go overboard with the presence and odds of these and/or in Myth Drannor. There need to be absolutely stellar good/very good effects for this system to make sense (Edit: seeing as how debilitating some of the bad ones can be).
Stuff:
Very Good Surge:
Target is affected by a (visible) bomb, that after 3 seconds explodes and inflicts a miniature Timestop: targets in a small area are disabled for 8 seconds, or in case of a redname or immune target, takes 30% more damage for 8 seconds.
Good:
+5d200 temp Spell Points to everyone in group that last 90 seconds.
Neutral:
You either create a stationary wild magic area around you, or create a stationary sphere that dispels the existing wild magic area in it for 30 seconds (visible: maybe a similar gfx to the Starlight zone, only.. primal, wild, chaotic).
Very Bad:
You get the "Dance, dance!" thing from Feywild Dryad raid
You summon a hostile Doomsphere (ok maybe something more tame would be more appropriate, but im evil)
I actually like random concepts, but they often are hard to pull off in video games people gotta play a lot ./ with plenty of repetition. I hope you don't go overboard with the presence and odds of these and/or in Myth Drannor. There need to be absolutely stellar good/very good effects for this system to make sense (Edit: seeing as how debilitating some of the bad ones can be).
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Ahpuch
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I for one would like to see what the player council saw that made them say this was a great idea.
Generally, random swings are a problem. If the upside is not significantly better than the downside then no wants to play with it and if the upside is too good then it can just become a random win chance. In this case the wild mage can gauge whether the next cast will be positive or negative so that mitigates the downside, I guess, maybe?
Generally, random swings are a problem. If the upside is not significantly better than the downside then no wants to play with it and if the upside is too good then it can just become a random win chance. In this case the wild mage can gauge whether the next cast will be positive or negative so that mitigates the downside, I guess, maybe?
Jack Jarvis Esquire
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Not sure about this whole unicorn thing. Combined with a cyclops, they're just an accident waiting to happen... ?
You realize that not every caster is going to be a wild mage lol.... this is going to be an environmental effect all casters have to deal with.
I don't think you read, wild magic areas are going to impact ALL CASTERS.
rabidfox
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Yes.
Jack Jarvis Esquire
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Will these surge effects hit all casters including scroll users on every cast? ?
Coz if so, quest-start buffing is going to be bloody interesting - perhaps literally! ?
Coz if so, quest-start buffing is going to be bloody interesting - perhaps literally! ?
Jack Jarvis Esquire
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Steps into R10.
Buffs party.
Everyone dies.
?
Buffs party.
Everyone dies.
?
Jack Jarvis Esquire
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Have to say, I get why you're irked. The whole name change thing was the final straw for me. Now Mordenkainen or whatever is on my ignore list. That's some going given some of the heated debates I've had on here with some folks who still didn't make that bar. Just too much like hard work wading through the BS. ?
The Nameless One
What can change the nature of a man ?
WHAT IS MYTH DRANNOR ? (DIRECT FROM THE SOURCE MATERIAL)
Myth Drannor is a death trap. Having your magic go out of control most times you cast it only serves to heighten the death trap atmosphere. No one's forcing characters to go to the city, so if they do go, they deserve everything they get.
--Random Adventurer from Internet
Myth Drannor is a death trap. Having your magic go out of control most times you cast it only serves to heighten the death trap atmosphere. No one's forcing characters to go to the city, so if they do go, they deserve everything they get.
--Random Adventurer from Internet
Sarlona Raiding
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This is what I read
- Bad or Very Bad negative effects ONLY affect the caster but Good/Very Good effects will sometimes apply to allies/party members
Jack Jarvis Esquire
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Will this put the kybosh on auras - surge per tick? ?
The Nameless One
What can change the nature of a man ?
Yea correct and it's a good thing!
Buddha5440
Trainer of those who beat dead horses
Wait a sec...Do you mean that it is wrong to have situations in D&D and DDO that can actually kill you?
If I ever had a DM that told me 'Everyone will survive this adventure, although it may be challenging'. I would leave said group immediately.
If there is no chance of death (even if from a wild surge); WHY are you playing this game?
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