U74 Preview 2: Iconic Dhampir Dark Bargainer Warlock

[Ethril]

12 pages now have they stated what the pl is going to be

If so, it wasn't announced in the comments.

 

[Bobbryan2]

If so, it wasn't announced in the comments.

But they did tease than the early preview of Dhampir is soon soon... so we'll probably all see what it is shortly.

+1 to saves vs spells sounds about right.

Almost none of the passive Iconic PLs are ever worth it

 

[DBZ]

Anything but 9 usp

 

[Bobbryan2]

Anything but 9 usp

(That's one of the rare good ones... can you imagine them giving the melee equivalent of +2MP or something for a PL feat?)

 

[Anurakh]

(That's one of the rare good ones... can you imagine them giving the melee equivalent of +2MP or something for a PL feat?)

Melees already have enough damage xD. They don't need more. But there are past lives that give bonuses to attack and damage, and that's amplified by the melee/ranged power they have. And there's no shortage of what they can gain from past lives.

 

[Bobbryan2]

Melees already have enough damage xD. They don't need more. But there are past lives that give bonuses to attack and damage, and that's amplified by the melee/ranged power they have. And there's no shortage of what they can gain from past lives.

Unless I'm crazy... all of the iconic PLs are defensive (and mostly bad) in nature, and the only offensive one is the +9 USP.
There's no + to attack or damage or anything like that. The biggest benefit is the ACTIVE +6 Doublestrike from Aasimar Scourge.

This was a question for the Dhampir Iconic PL. The regular race is known... +1 hide, +1 str, +1 rap.

 

[Cordovan]

• Iconic Past Life Stance: +1 to Necromancy DCs and +5 Negative Spell Power per stack of this Past Life. Passive Bonus: +1 Saving Throw vs. Enchantments per stack of this Past Life. This feat can be stacked up to three times.

 

[Ethril]

• Iconic Past Life Stance: +1 to Necromancy DCs and +5 Negative Spell Power per stack of this Past Life. Passive Bonus: +1 Saving Throw vs. Enchantments per stack of this Past Life. This feat can be stacked up to three times.

Thanks for the info.

 

[rabidfox]

• Iconic Past Life Stance: +1 to Necromancy DCs and +5 Negative Spell Power per stack of this Past Life. Passive Bonus: +1 Saving Throw vs. Enchantments per stack of this Past Life. This feat can be stacked up to three times.

That's pretty nice and worth doing 3x times for me.

 

[Bobbryan2]

+1 to saves vs spells sounds about right.

• Iconic Past Life Stance: +1 to Necromancy DCs and +5 Negative Spell Power per stack of this Past Life. Passive Bonus: +1 Saving Throw vs. Enchantments per stack of this Past Life. This feat can be stacked up to three times.

Sounds
about
right

 

[glass_jaws]

Unless I'm crazy... all of the iconic PLs are defensive (and mostly bad) in nature, and the only offensive one is the +9 USP.
There's no + to attack or damage or anything like that. The biggest benefit is the ACTIVE +6 Doublestrike from Aasimar Scourge.

This was a question for the Dhampir Iconic PL. The regular race is known... +1 hide, +1 str, +1 rap.

Razorclaw is +3 hit/damage for it's stance.

 

[Bobbryan2]

Razorclaw is +3 hit/damage for it's stance.

But doesn't work with +6% double.... which is almost always superior... unless you're getting capped easily without it some other way that doesn't cost you +3 hit/damage.

 

[Ptalon]

• Iconic Past Life Stance: +1 to Necromancy DCs and +5 Negative Spell Power per stack of this Past Life. Passive Bonus: +1 Saving Throw vs. Enchantments per stack of this Past Life. This feat can be stacked up to three times.

So, uhm,,,
When is the preorder going to be available?

Sitting on a Reincarnation... was expecting it real soon.....

 

[Exolus]

So, uhm,,,
When is the preorder going to be available?

Sitting on a Reincarnation... was expecting it real soon.....

might be tomorrow

 

[Rosze]

So we ignored every suggestion given here right? Don’t get me wrong excited for the new race, but there were definitely some good points made here i was hoping to get changed before going live like one of the feats being more negative than positive cost

 

[Bobbryan2]

So we ignored every suggestion given here right? Don’t get me wrong excited for the new race, but there were definitely some good points made here i was hoping to get changed before going live like one of the feats being more negative than positive cost

First time?

 

[Rosze]

First time?

Oh I’m not surprised, just disappointed.

 

[Bobbryan2]

Oh I’m not surprised, just disappointed.

I mean... I give them a hard time, but they at least did listen on the bat swarm and the bites having a set number of uses.
So... it's not nothing... but I do wonder if we could have a much better game if we had a more robust back-and-forth in the preview.

 

[VinoeWhines]

The thing is, is that when they come out with a new Race/Class/Iconic. they seem to put the best options for them available and unfortunately the previous class' get shafted in abilities that they were suppose to shine in.

Look how many Sneak Attack Dice and Defensive/Evasion and defensive assistance that all the new Class/Race/Iconics get.
Warlocks could be improved upon in this update.

Rogues lost Mechanical Dog/Self Rez(Cheat Death)/ Throwing viles damage never fixed(but improved with Alchemist).
They removed Shortbow( could you at least put Throwing Daggers in and INT/DEX to use for Hit/Damage not just DEX).

Give every class the balance to be able to sustain themselves in Epic Destinies.
A form of Healing.
A form of Crowd Control.(Stuns or Holds are better than 4 second Blinds...)
Focus on Attack types.

Extended Clip (only Artificers?!)
Weird(only based off illusion DC in an Assassinate DC tree? Should be both, like the other new Tree )

Fearsome Countenance: Target enemy must save or be Cowered (Will save vs. DC 10 + Highest of STR/CON/CHA Mod + Stunning bonuses + Enchantment DC Bonuses )