U78 New Event Preview: Sterling's Remnant Rush

[Thumbed_Servant]

1) Do all the rolls have the same reward list?

2) Or, does each successively higher tier of the rolls have an expanded reward list?

3) Or, does each successively higher tier of the rolls have a distinct reward list?

Also, is the reward list(s) the same each month or do the change to some degree every month?

 

[Thumbed_Servant]

The monkey paw wish fix is that they just ban people using the 3rd party application and we still have to manually pick them up.

Why would it be a good thing to keep people from using the auto-pick-up 3rd party software Rabid?

Or; Why is it a bad thing that people use the auto-pick-up 3rd party software?

 

[Oliphant]

Keyword might be monkeypaw.

 

[Contessor]

Can the first trade always be made to collect the card of cleansing? or at least a static number like the third or fifth?

I am ok with some randomness, but seems like a dissappointment to go ten trades and not get the most coveted option that almost everyone will want.

 

[Matuse]

Can the first trade always be made to collect the card of cleansing? or at least a static number like the third or fifth?

I am ok with some randomness, but seems like a dissappointment to go ten trades and not get the most coveted option that almost everyone will want.

Every roll is the same roll except for the cost. Same loot table, same odds on every roll.

 

[Ilvati]

I just took a look at the website section discussing the 20th Anni and clicked on the box for Sterling Remnant Rush (https://www.ddo.com/guides/ddo-sterlings-remnant-rush). Of all the rewards in this event I only really was interested in the dusts. Here's the quote of the text:

Dusts of Mythic and Reaper Power provide a Mythic bonus to specific items as indicated in their name that are minimum level 34 or lower that continues through 3/31/27. The Dusts come in Glove, Boot, and Cloak varieties.

A few thoughts:

1) Limited to level 34 - Great idea, this precludes hoarding and keeps motivation for true endgame players to farm for Mythic/Reaper when new expansions come out. Strongly support this fine print. This makes the idea of this kind of dust something that could be offered in the future.
2) I assume this is supposed to say "Dusts of Mythic and Reaper Power provide [either] a Mythic [or Reaper] bonus [respectively] to specific..." With the brackets being how we should read it?
3) Regarding the "continuing through 3/31/2027". Does this mean either a) the dust disappears after 3/31/27 and cannot be applied after such date or b) the bonuses even if applied disappear after 3/31/27? If the dust disappears after 3/31/27, this fine and probably a good anti-hoarding thing (although the mix/maxer in me dislikes it). No issues. If it means the bonuses already applied disappear then it makes these rewards pointless, at least to me, and turns this event into something I don't care about Can you confirm either way?
4) Having specific dust for a specific slot is interesting. Not entirely what I expected but on balance probably a good addition for the game. It raises the floor as if you have nothing any bonus is good but if you are targeting that one specific specific piece it makes it more difficult. In general, I'm in favor of raising up the floor more easily/accessible than the ceiling although the key to DDO success (in terms of keeping me interested) is raising both at the same time; which, this change does.

(edited because spelling is hard....)

 

[droid327]

And What MR Economy? Wait, dont bother.

Yes! Exactly!

You keep making my point for me lol

 

[Oliphant]

This is Thanos snap levels of naivety, similar to buying yourself one doubling tempo.

 

[Neon Puce]

Some people could be given a free Ottos

OMG FREE OTTOS! WOOOHOOOOO

 

[Matuse]

Dusts of Mythic and Reaper Power provide a Mythic bonus to specific items as indicated in their name that are minimum level 34 or lower that continues through 3/31/27. The Dusts come in Glove, Boot, and Cloak varieties.

3) Regarding the "continuing through 3/31/2027". Does this mean either a) the dust disappears after 3/31/27 and cannot be applied after such date or b) the bonuses even if applied disappear after 3/31/27? If the dust disappears after 3/31/27, this fine and probably a good anti-hoarding thing (although the mix/maxer in me dislikes it). No issues. If it means the bonuses already applied disappear then it makes these rewards pointless, at least to me, and turns this event into something I don't care about Can you confirm either way?

The dusts will either be deprecated or turned into rotting dust like they do with the Night Revels ingredients each year. There's no way they will remove the bonuses from the items themselves.

4) Having specific dust for a specific slot is interesting. Not entirely what I expected but on balance probably a good addition for the game. It raises the floor as if you have nothing any bonus is good but if you are targeting that one specific specific piece it makes it more difficult. In general, I'm in favor of raising up the floor more easily/accessible than the ceiling although the key to DDO success (in terms of keeping me interested) is raising both at the same time; which, this change does.

When I saw the specific dust codicil, I cringed. It means that the reward table is going to be substantially more diluted than it already was.

Fragment tome of Str
Fragment tome of Dex
Fragment tome of Con
Fragment tome of Int
Fragment tome of Wis
Fragment tome of Cha
Reaper dust of boot
Reaper dust of glove
Reaper dust of cloak
Mythic dust of boot
Mythic dust of glove
Mythic dust of cloak
Curse cleanser card
Myth Drannor box

This means that on each turn-in, you have only a 3.5% chance of getting a specific major reward item. Those are bad odds. And that also assumes that each major reward has equal weighting. If any of those major items have a greater or lesser chance of being picked, then it throws off that 3.5% figure by a lot.

 

[Ilvati]

The dusts will either be deprecated or turned into rotting dust like they do with the Night Revels ingredients each year. There's no way they will remove the bonuses from the items themselves.



When I saw the specific dust codicil, I cringed. It means that the reward table is going to be substantially more diluted than it already was.

Fragment tome of Str
Fragment tome of Dex
Fragment tome of Con
Fragment tome of Int
Fragment tome of Wis
Fragment tome of Cha
Reaper dust of boot
Reaper dust of glove
Reaper dust of cloak
Mythic dust of boot
Mythic dust of glove
Mythic dust of cloak
Curse cleanser card
Myth Drannor box

This means that on each turn-in, you have only a 3.5% chance of getting a specific major reward item. Those are bad odds. And that also assumes that each major reward has equal weighting. If any of those major items have a greater or lesser chance of being picked, then it throws off that 3.5% figure by a lot.

I hope you are correct about the dust. I agree the technology for the depreciation (a la Night Revels) of the dust itself exists. If SSGs intends for this I suggest rewording the text to say:

Dusts of Mythic and Reaper Power [only available through 3/31/27] provide a Mythic bonus to specific items as indicated in their name that are minimum level 34 or lower that continues through 3/31/27. The Dusts come in Glove, Boot, and Cloak varieties.

I hear you about the dilution of the table. This is the issue of raising the floor more quickly than the ceiling -- you only care about a subset of the rewards if you already some tomes and some mythic/reaper items.

 

[YTSESoldier]

Does it seem like MRs are dropping more often now?

no

 

[Psych]

Yes! Exactly!

You keep making my point for me lol

Actually I dont, however you keep quoting me and suggesting I do. To be clear, since I guess its hard, I dont think we need to do work on a MR economy issue, not at all imo, and definitely not for our Anny event, especially since as of recently and beyond this thread, no one cares!

If "they" do care, and are showing up and are feeling like, hey this might straighten out this issue we have with too many remnants, why oh why would they want to be punished for a game design issue, that is not our fault or our job. You said your self, you presume this is the reason for the high costs, however just as likely is that they just over-value the rewards and over estimated the amount we can gather. Either way, the cost imo should represent what we can gather with some effort aka playing the event.

 

[YTSESoldier]

Limited to specific slots: Cloak, Glove and Boots. You can thank data miners for that detail. Same slots apply to the reaper bonus.

Honestly this limitation will limit my expenditures. I am sitting on 300k+ rems and was planning on 7-8 rolls monthly, however only being able to upgrade these 3 slots (verified on https://www.ddo.com/guides/ddo-sterlings-remnant-rush) will likely limit my expenditures to 5x per month or so and less if get a few of each early. I thought at first that it was only the reaper bonus limited to these slots but if its both and if they each drop with specific slots, (i.e. reaper dust of gloves), I am definitely far less excited about this than initially. Add in the rng gods where you are likely to pull multiple mythic dusts of cloak before 1 of boots, sorry no. SSG didn't seem to learn from the overall negative response to the worst crafting system in the game, the curse cards. I have gone through thousands of each card cursing items and there are still curses I have never seen. This system is almost as bad as rare loot.

One set of Greaves of seasons warding for tanking, 1 cloak for monking/tanking around are all I would really care much about. It's like they picked the slots whose bonuses will have the least actual beneficial effect for endgame where endgame players are the ones most likely to have a large amount of remnants. Im still waiting to be able to craft reaper bonuses on trinkets and weapons. And how hard would it be to let us spend threads on myhtic bonuses like we can for the KT/schism upgrade items.

It seems to me the more I look at this is really is just an attempt to sink the remnant pool with very little chance of gaining any significant benefit no matter how many you spend. The tomes are mostly a waste also...most players who have been playing a while have a suite of +8 tomes and crunching them for purified shards is a waste as there has been no mention of updating cannith crafting so when the expansion comes out this summer random loot and cannith will be 4 levels behind end game.

 

[pirotessa]

The dusts will either be deprecated or turned into rotting dust like they do with the Night Revels ingredients each year. There's no way they will remove the bonuses from the items themselves.



When I saw the specific dust codicil, I cringed. It means that the reward table is going to be substantially more diluted than it already was.

Fragment tome of Str
Fragment tome of Dex
Fragment tome of Con
Fragment tome of Int
Fragment tome of Wis
Fragment tome of Cha
Reaper dust of boot
Reaper dust of glove
Reaper dust of cloak
Mythic dust of boot
Mythic dust of glove
Mythic dust of cloak
Curse cleanser card
Myth Drannor box

This means that on each turn-in, you have only a 3.5% chance of getting a specific major reward item. Those are bad odds. And that also assumes that each major reward has equal weighting. If any of those major items have a greater or lesser chance of being picked, then it throws off that 3.5% figure by a lot.

Oh really?

The benefit persists through March 31st, 2027, and expires after that time. - Per Cordovan in official discord when I asked.

 

[Contessor]

Reward the hoarders....

 

[pirotessa]

Honestly this limitation will limit my expenditures. I am sitting on 300k+ rems and was planning on 7-8 rolls monthly, however only being able to upgrade these 3 slots (verified on https://www.ddo.com/guides/ddo-sterlings-remnant-rush) will likely limit my expenditures to 5x per month or so and less once I get a few of each. I set of Greaves of seasons warding for tanginess, 1 cloak for monking around, and quite frankly the glove reaper bonus is meh so unless we can craft reaper power instead of the slot specific stuff then, well, meh.

Bonuses expire after a year currently. Dont plan gear around keeping them. Whoops, why would they do that?!

 

[thejaerleclan]

Bonuses expire after a year currently. Dont plan gear around keeping them. Whoops, why would they do that?!

Quite possibly the stupidest SSG idea in a long time. And that is saying something.

 

[YTSESoldier]

Bonuses expire after a year currently. Dont plan gear around keeping them. Whoops, why would they do that?!

I read that to mean that the dusts expire on that date, not bonuses that were placed using them. Quite frankly I don't think SSG has the coding know how to add bonuses to items then have them expire, I more expect the dusts to expire Ala Night revels ingredients. If the bonuses themselves expire and SSG confirms this then I really will not be spending a lot of remnants. Blowing thousands of remnants for a temporary bonus to 3 of the least desirable slots for most builds is actually more garbage than card curses, I didn't think it was possible, but they did it...good job SSG, way to take something that I was super excited for and suck th life right out of it before it even goes live.

 

[Matuse]

If the effect of the dusts expire, then the dusts themselves will just get trashed. I won't even bother wasting the time it takes to open the window and apply them.

What a stupid plan.

Edit: Apparently it's only the dusts and not the bonuses applied, which is a sensible way to do it.