U78: Sterling's Remnant Rush

[Zavina]

Tolero's post

It was suggested by my TR partner, Lurea, that I should look at doing a "how the remnants trade-in works". She had already done 10 rolls on her account, and said "it'd be good to show a comparison".

I loaded up with remnants

As stated, you get 10 bites of the strawberry before it blocks you.

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(10, and final)

How it can appear on screen

It does appear in the chatlog under Dungeon Master, not Loot. However, I would request that if you get nothing there should be some quip from the mimic reflecting the "oh well, better luck next time" or something similar, than just having it as nothing. (Additional edit: As seen below, @Hakoist had said, "Mythic reaper upgrade box is not released yet, people get nothing from that roll")

And the overall result...

Rewards

If trying to trade beyond the max

And how many remnants left over from this visit to the mimic..?

 

[Zavina]

As stated above, Lurea had been on yesterday, and did some rolling.. She had a lot better pulls in ten draws than I did. Didn't get a single zero.

So these are from her draws from the mimic chest, which were different and included the clickable reward categories.

Fragmented Constitution Tome

Error: When you highlight over the Tome of Bodily Health, as shown in the last image, it's actually for a Tome of Gainful Exercise (Strength +1) and not a Constitution tome.
Also, by the definition of using 'plural' ie: "list of Constitution Tomes", are we meant to see a list of direct to stat tomes rather than a singular tome - because the wording on the token differentiates between the two types.

Request: Can you upgrade the trade-in for purified eberron dragonshards in the Cannith Crafting Hall, so it encompasses higher grade tomes, going to +8.

Fragmented Treasure of Myth Drannor: This goes through into the legendary items of Myth Drannor, and the Legendary Golden Age weapons/shields too. I didn't capture them all, just enough to give the reader the overall concept.

 

[seph1roth5]

Uh....why is there a chance to get nothing?

 

[Hakoist]

Uh....why is there a chance to get nothing?

Mythic reaper upgrade box is not released yet, people get nothing from that roll

 

[Titus Ovid]

Uff, I am fine with paying a high value for rare items but a chance of nothing? The chance should be higher the more you pay!
The loot table looks good with a Card of Cleansing on it. More information about the items would be nice, SSG.

Cheers,
Titus

 

[l_remmie]

There is NO chance for nothing. Just 2 slots that are w.i.p. read the dev post.

 

[saekee]

wow thx for sharing. Well I do not have that many rems—maybe 7500 as I burned some recently—looks like Rems are in high demand

 

[Zavina]

Edited the document. Included citation from @Hakoist.

 

[Celestrata Bloodsong]

Yeah, just to hammer the point back home, there are no "0s" on Sterling's tables - just items that are works in progress so they won't be awarded during this testing. Sterling is intended to always deliver a reward for each trade made.

 

[Zavina]

Yeah, just to hammer the point back home, there are no "0s" on Sterling's tables - just items that are works in progress so they won't be awarded during this testing. Sterling is intended to always deliver a reward for each trade made.

Can we also see an update for the Cannith Crafting trade in for purified eberron dragonshards implemented (as i described above), where they can accept tomes of up to +8?

 

[Fhrek]

Yeah, just to hammer the point back home, there are no "0s" on Sterling's tables - just items that are works in progress so they won't be awarded during this testing. Sterling is intended to always deliver a reward for each trade made.

Why Minor Artifacts are not included in the Myth Drannor Boxes? Any logical reasonable explanation by this exclusion?

 

[Dom]

I wonder if there is any consideration to reduce the cost of the trade in for the remnants. As it is, you will need 2,332,800 remnants to do 10x trade in for all 12 months. I can almost guarantee the majority of the player base doesn't have, and will not have, that many remnants within the year.

 

[droid327]

Also, by the definition of using 'plural' ie: "list of Constitution Tomes", are we meant to see a list of direct to stat tomes rather than a singular tome - because the wording on the token differentiates between the two types.

Well it wouldn't make sense to offer more than one base tome since you'd always just take the highest one

However, since +5 tomes are fairly accessible for favor, and +2 to +5 fairly easy to achieve with just a bit of ASAH shopping (done it for a few alts), I don't see why the rewards shouldn't start with +5 and then just include three tiers of upgrades to +8. The individual +1 through +4 upgrade tomes are nothing but a noob trap, and that's bad form for an event reward design.

I wonder if there is any consideration to reduce the cost of the trade in for the remnants. As it is, you will need 2,332,800 remnants to do 10x trade in for all 12 months. I can almost guarantee the majority of the player base doesn't have, and will not have, that many remnants within the year.

I expect that's the whole point. The event isn't meant to give everyone 120 draws, it's meant to drain excess rems from the economy, possibly so they can add new permanent rem rewards next year and not have them immediately sell out.

 

[Dom]

I expect that's the whole point. The event isn't meant to give everyone 120 draws, it's meant to drain excess rems from the economy, possibly so they can add new permanent rem rewards next year and not have them immediately sell out.

They could achieve this even if they reduce the cost by half. Rolling out a new "benefit" that isn't gonna be able to be fully used/tested by the majority of players seems pointless.

 

[cdbd3rd]

Excellent preview, Z!

Much appreciated.

 

[droid327]

They could achieve this even if they reduce the cost by half. Rolling out a new "benefit" that isn't gonna be able to be fully used/tested by the majority of players seems pointless.

If they made it cheap enough that every schmuck could get 120 rolls, then they aren't going to make a dent in the Rem Whale's supply. There really is no entitlement for everyone to get 120 rolls. Everyone will get something though, that's all fairness requires. And the somethings are all really good.

Also everyone will be able to access most of the event. Here's a table breaking down the annual cost at each level of draws per month, so people can approximate how many rolls they can expect. Even casual grinders and newer players should easily be able to make 5-6 rolls per month. Vets and hardcores can probably hit 8:

Rolls per month	12-month cost
1	1200
2	4800
3	10,800
4	22,800
5	52,800
6	112,800
7	232,800
8	532,800
9	1,132,800
10	2,332,800

 

[cdbd3rd]

Looking at the costs as one of the dirty casuals, I'm okay with the cost progression - even if those top numbers look insanely high to me.

Don't want to spend one's entire hoard in the first round anyhow.


Budgeting.

Do you really want that 1 next roll for 50K now, or 4-5-6 rolls next cycle. Etc.

 

[Dom]

Also everyone will be able to access most of the event. Here's a table breaking down the annual cost at each level of draws per month, so people can approximate how many rolls they can expect. Even casual grinders and newer players should easily be able to make 5-6 rolls per month. Vets and hardcores can probably hit 8:

If the top end of players can hit 8 rolls every month (totaling 532,800), then cutting the overall cost in half means the top end get to maybe 9 rolls still aren't hitting the ceiling, and still making a dent in their stash. It just also allows more of the casuals to get access to more rolls per month.

 

[glass_jaws]

Maybe I am just way under the number of remnants compared to others, but I was checking last night and I have about 160k remnants (which I considered a lot). I guess I shouldn't have bought so many augments over the years.

 

[Fhrek]

If the top end of players can hit 8 rolls every month (totaling 532,800), then cutting the overall cost in half means the top end get to maybe 9 rolls still aren't hitting the ceiling, and still making a dent in their stash. It just also allows more of the casuals to get access to more rolls per month.

If the costs don't come down after the Lamannia feedback, it is a signal SSG knows a chunk of players are hoarding astronomical amounts of remnants... the ones that don't come to forum saying what they have or have not.