the defenses against your own element and imbue of your own element while thematic probably don't feel fantastic in practice. Stuff using your element will often be immune to your imbue. Maybe dragonslayer could be a multiselector to let you pick a secondary imbue out of the 5 elements you can toggle on.
Update 66 Preview 1: Dragon Lord Fighter Archetype
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FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted
If you read my posts you have already lost
ok, feedback time so here goes...
- question about the dragons protection, does that apply to allies with the level 18 core? if not, make it!
- make capstone gives +2 imbue dice like other imbue capstones
- give core 4 +5 melee and ranged power so it gives power like the cores around it
- capstone should also give +10 ranged power
- give reckless devotion also give +5% fort bypass +1% per 2 dragon lord levels
- should core 3 and 5 also increase the bonus to dragon auras? it makes sense thematically just wasn't sure if its a typo
- core 5 probably shouldn't give +2 imbue dice as all other imbue trees give 1
- give all the battlefield tactician +1 imbue dice as this is an imbue tree
- give all dragons protection the 5% absorb, not just 3 and 4
- I think dragons roar cooldown is a tad long, maybe lower it to 15
- battlefield tactician 3 should probably do 1d10 damage instead of 1d4 as 1d4 isn't very much
- Battlefield Tactician 4 should probably do 1d12 or 1d14 damage as 1d6 isn't very much given how hard it is to proc
- why doesn't soul of scales also give 15 prr? it makes sense to me
- it would be cool if improved dragons roar also removed the targets immunity to your element if they have it, as you can only ever get 1 imbue
- it would be cool if memories of flight also gave +3 imbue dice for 6 seconds along with the movement speed boost (to be like blightcaster wolf charge)
- I think it would be awesome if when the capstone ability is used and the target is killed, you ragin 1 second wind charge
FatBudScream
Keeper of Kebabs
Ok nowadays every class is asking to earn this rare privilege to remove immune of their elemental specialty, but as it was sometimes given - supposed to be the ultimate skill of a dedicated caster, even at the point some of them can't even do it!
That would be a huge change of damage balance for the class if imbue works on every targets, even if temporary.
Like every player I'm sometimes disappointed to see immunes on my specialties, but it justifies complementing your build with something else, or your group with someone else.
About that sunder DC and use, do we wonder if it can be stacked with other sunder applications like the one offered in Divine Crusader ED ??
Gyuma Bei
Well-known member
Removed the Kensai tree? Why not remove Stalwart Defender instead given that this Archetype does not innately include Shield Proficiency? And Kensai makes more sense with how it a) is focused on DPS/burst damage and b) has multiple Tactical bonuses (Trip, Sunder).
Regardless, it's good that this gives Fighters an imbue option.
Regardless, it's good that this gives Fighters an imbue option.
Sophie The Cat Burglar
Exotic Items Recovery Specialist
Oh whoa. This looks kinda okay. Weird.
People find you compelling so...you do more damage? That makes no sense. I mean, that makes more not sense than the usual things not making sense around here.
People find you compelling so...you do more damage? That makes no sense. I mean, that makes more not sense than the usual things not making sense around here.
FatBudScream
Keeper of Kebabs
+1 Damage with Melee Weapon and +1 Breath DC = Compelling
... still better word than admitting you've been known for bullying and bad breath issues !!!
Nimvind
Dirgesinger Bard of Sarlona
Any chance we can get this in tier 2 or 1? This would allow it to be another option for 1-2 level splashes for warchanter builds besides cleric/fvs. I can personally say I'd be super stoked if I could add this to my build and still keep my 18 level cores as a warchanter.
Monkey_Archer
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Tier 3 is likely intentional to prevent 18 barb builds with strength trance from overshadowing this archetype entirely.
FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted
If you read my posts you have already lost
nothing will overshadow that capstone. id even take that capstone over VKF. that's how good it is ?
It'd be nice to actually have a single archetype that doesn't just wind up being a worse tank than it's base version for once so please no.
But also getting Kensei's cores along with ravager's crit range is a bad combination balancewise.
I'd say tier 3 is a healthy place for it.
If anything it's less abusable than the fvs/clr trances because it's out of reach for 18/1/1 splits and people were just gearswapping a full charisma/wisdom set for trance then swapping back.
By playing dragonlord you are locked out of one of the best dps trees in the game due to it being a fighter archetype that lacks kensei.
Elminster
Sage of Shadowdale
Actually trying to understand what this is exactly....?
I mean it looks to be a tank? But no shield prof? and yet stal def?
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This is a tank right?
SunTzu
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STR trance should be mutually exclusive to barbarian rage.
If not, no one would play non-STR build, because barbarian rage would give astronomical STR + that STR based damage, too.
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