What are the tech benefits from server change?

[Ned_Ellis]

A major part of choosing the new server for me is the 'better performance' that is implied but can anyone explain (to someone who still has a phone with buttons!) what the advantages are of :
- a 64bit server
- having a server closer to home

And how noticable would they really be? Where - on a range of 'it's gonna be one less ladder bug a session' to 'it'll seem like VR' - is this tech upgrade gonna be?
It would really help me out, thank you in advance!

 

[danzig138]

Increased per character platinum cap?

 

[PersonMan]

My ping will more than double on the 64 bit move.
Latency related issues will get worse, but lag related issues will improve.
Essentially any "server is busy" problems should diminish after the initial migration; if things go like they did for Cormyr the servers will be excessively busy for the first weeks.

 

[rabidfox]

7m48s in is Sev talking about the 64-bit tech. He expains things in pretty basic terms.

 

[Sarlona Raiding]

Realistically the #1 driver is cost, even if other benefits are also listed. This is likely why this suddenly became priority #1 and why the 8/31 deadline remains firm even as they adjust the start date backwards.

To the extent you run old tech and/or require a more unique/custom setup it significantly increases the cost of using a shared data center - and the year-over-year cost will keep rising faster than inflation as more migrate to something newer. At some point a data center may even refuse to support outdated tech if unsupported software with security vulnerabilities is involved.

For comparison purposes this is something alot of companies (including where I worked) dealt with 20 years ago. So SSG is definitely late to the party.

 

[Elminster]

Why not just hop on Cormyr and see for yourself?

 

[Alternative]

if you compare the numbers, 64 is more than 32

 

[songswrath]

More friends, new friends. Unless you solo everything than don't matter. But who plays a mmo to solo

 

[Drunken.dx]

More friends, new friends. Unless you solo everything than don't matter. But who plays a mmo to solo

Me.

I like some MMO elements (for example in DDO i like getting past lives) and so far no single player game delivered on that.

As a bonus I can jump into raids if I feel like it.

 

[Hobgoblin]

the main advantage is that you get to keep playing the game.... as 32 goes bye bye

 

[TedSandyman]

Lets ask AI.

The main difference between 32-bit and 64-bit servers lies in the amount of memory they can address and the size of data they can process at once. 64-bit servers can handle significantly more memory and larger data chunks, leading to better performance for memory-intensive applications and larger datasets.


Here's a more detailed breakdown:
32-bit Servers:

• Memory Limitation: Limited to addressing a maximum of 4GB of RAM.

• Data Processing: Processes data in 32-bit chunks.
  
  
• 
  
• Suitable for: Smaller applications and datasets where memory usage is not a major concern.

64-bit Servers:

• Memory Capacity:
  Can address significantly more memory than 32-bit systems, potentially up to 16 exabytes (16 billion gigabytes).
• 
  
• Data Processing:
  Processes data in 64-bit chunks, allowing for faster and more efficient processing of larger datasets.
  
  
• 
  
• Suitable for:
  Memory-intensive applications, large databases, and situations where performance is critical.

Key Advantages of 64-bit Servers:

• More Memory:
  Allows for larger datasets to be loaded into memory, reducing the need to access slower storage (like hard drives).
• 
  
• Improved Performance:
  Can execute instructions faster and handle more complex calculations due to the larger data chunks.
  
  
• 
  
• Future-Proofing:
  As software and applications become more complex, 64-bit systems are better equipped to handle the increased demands.

In essence, 64-bit servers offer superior performance and capacity compared to 32-bit servers, especially for demanding applications and large datasets.



HOWEVER


To determine if moving a 32-bit software to a 64-bit server will improve performance, consider the following points:

• Memory Access: 64-bit servers can access more RAM, which can enhance performance for memory-intensive applications.
• Processing Power: 64-bit architecture can handle more data per clock cycle, potentially speeding up processing tasks.
• Compatibility: Ensure the software is compatible with 64-bit systems; otherwise, it may not run or perform well.
• Optimization: Some applications are optimized for 64-bit environments, leading to better performance.
• Overhead: 32-bit software may not fully utilize the capabilities of a 64-bit server, limiting performance gains.
• Testing: Conduct performance tests to measure any improvements after migration.

So, unless the game is rewritten to take advantage of the 64-bit servers, your mileage may vary.

 

[Elminster]

Or you know just play on Cormyr and see if things change?

 

[Phungki]

More friends, new friends. Unless you solo everything than don't matter. But who plays a mmo to solo

Me

 

[Ethril]

Me

Same. My main solos nearly everything except wildernesses, some raids, and high reaper.

 

[FaceDancer]

Mee too! Well 90% of the time that is..

 

[Ned_Ellis]

Thanks to those who took the time to inform (or bring the laughs!). Trying Cormyr is to be done even though it doesn't address the location of the servers (ping?) element. The consolidation and grouping benefits are great but true for all servers; the performance gain vs. losing the guild is my main problem.

 

[Geezer]

Lets ask AI.

The main difference between 32-bit and 64-bit servers lies in the amount of memory they can address and the size of data they can process at once. 64-bit servers can handle significantly more memory and larger data chunks, leading to better performance for memory-intensive applications and larger datasets.


Here's a more detailed breakdown:
32-bit Servers:

• Memory Limitation: Limited to addressing a maximum of 4GB of RAM.

• Data Processing: Processes data in 32-bit chunks.
  
  
• 
  
• Suitable for: Smaller applications and datasets where memory usage is not a major concern.

64-bit Servers:

• Memory Capacity:
  Can address significantly more memory than 32-bit systems, potentially up to 16 exabytes (16 billion gigabytes).
• 
  
• Data Processing:
  Processes data in 64-bit chunks, allowing for faster and more efficient processing of larger datasets.
  
  
• 
  
• Suitable for:
  Memory-intensive applications, large databases, and situations where performance is critical.

Key Advantages of 64-bit Servers:

• More Memory:
  Allows for larger datasets to be loaded into memory, reducing the need to access slower storage (like hard drives).
• 
  
• Improved Performance:
  Can execute instructions faster and handle more complex calculations due to the larger data chunks.
  
  
• 
  
• Future-Proofing:
  As software and applications become more complex, 64-bit systems are better equipped to handle the increased demands.

In essence, 64-bit servers offer superior performance and capacity compared to 32-bit servers, especially for demanding applications and large datasets.



HOWEVER


To determine if moving a 32-bit software to a 64-bit server will improve performance, consider the following points:

• Memory Access: 64-bit servers can access more RAM, which can enhance performance for memory-intensive applications.
• Processing Power: 64-bit architecture can handle more data per clock cycle, potentially speeding up processing tasks.
• Compatibility: Ensure the software is compatible with 64-bit systems; otherwise, it may not run or perform well.
• Optimization: Some applications are optimized for 64-bit environments, leading to better performance.
• Overhead: 32-bit software may not fully utilize the capabilities of a 64-bit server, limiting performance gains.
• Testing: Conduct performance tests to measure any improvements after migration.

So, unless the game is rewritten to take advantage of the 64-bit servers, your mileage may vary.

But when the game (DDO), is on a 32 bit platform, will the lag performance be reduced that much??? . Especially when a server has 800 or more players on it. Thats what I would like to know. I can see some improvement, but with the increased player load, IDK. But I am hoping for the best

 

[danzig138]

But when the game (DDO), is on a 32 bit platform, will the lag performance be reduced that much??? . Especially when a server has 800 or more players on it. Thats what I would like to know. I can see some improvement, but with the increased player load, IDK. But I am hoping for the best

Hope for the best, expect the worst, and watch the mayhem on the first few days of the transfer with some soda and popcorn.