Why do beginners give up the game? Why so few players?

[Tyrande]

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You can also farm out rings of spell storing from the sands wilderness and then you can get some mana back any time.. you can make an epic and a legendary one too. So once you get up in levels you’ll have more mana you can give yourself from those rings.

He's not there yet as he's only Level 7. The Sands of Mechnectarun is ML11-15?
Also, that ring of spell storing chest seems to have nerfed the drop rate after the release of Myth Drannor.
The release notes said they up the wilderness chests named table. I don't know the details of that *coughs* fix.
One of my character(s) was using the Saltmarsh VIP pot and looted that chest for about an hour. Nothing drops.

A mysterious bauble can help too

Yeah, see the spell storing ring chest note above.

I know the items may not be useful/usable til later levels but they exist and that’s the main point.

There are numerous ways to help with this.. just ask all of those who have played this game for years

You probably should mention the Torc and the various loot that can get mana while being hit.

I would also mention warlock. That Eldritch Blast does not use mana.

 

[Tyrande]

Yeah, well, sorry for being born and live in a poor country where people make $100 (at best) per month.
Giving all of your monthly salary for DDO VIP and stay hungry, without water/electricity and a fine for failure to pay rent is not fun, you know.
So, excuse me, I'd rather give my money to someone who creates local prices.
Well, SSG doesn't want my money anyway...

I am surprised that DDO is not cheaper in places like Ukraine, Poland, Argentina, Indonesia or Vietnam.

90 minutes to 120 minutes massage in the US costs around $150 to $250. While its only $20->$30 in Vietnam and its much better. In Vietnam they also wash your hair, do your facials, nails and toes.

 

[Tyrande]

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Mana potions, developers...mana potions...

I suggest you roll a dragon lord. They are overpowered right now and can do DPS, CC and instant kills better than the wizard you have and have more hit points, defenses; and can do CC and instant kills without using mana. Yes, they can also self heal.

FYI- The developers right now hate casters...

 

[Coffey]

The only "catch up mechanism" will always be time and money just like it has been for those who others want to catch up to. No one is forcing anyone to "catch up" so it is a choice. Gotta pay your dues otherwise it is meaningless. You can always go play Fortnite or the like where it is all about skill (and luck...).

It is a meaningful trap. And a lucrative one. I have never understood chasing after power in any game. Especially when the parameters are carefully crafted to steal your time and your money.

These catchup mechanics are part of the reason we all have had to put up with laggy servers because they didnt need to rely on keeping a lot of players if they had enough big spenders. Now it seems that they have to try to fix the servers to increase the player base. They apparently have had a lot of success with LOTRO 64 bit servers. If there is success with the test server and the new server then hopefully they can attain investment capitol to complete the other servers in a much faster time period.

 

[Weaponalpha]

Doom. Gloom. DDO is dying (still...) Maybe play more, post less?

 

[Coffey]

Since we are giving out free advice here maybe you should post less and get back to your sit and spin.

 

[Ryiah]

The release notes said they up the wilderness chests named table. I don't know the details of that *coughs* fix.

Myth Drannor only as far as anyone currently knows. According to data miners the chests are now effectively Elite (ie 33%).

 

[Teh_Troll]

I am surprised that DDO is not cheaper in places like Ukraine, Poland, Argentina, Indonesia or Vietnam.

90 minutes to 120 minutes massage in the US costs around $150 to $250. While its only $20->$30 in Vietnam and its much better. In Vietnam they also wash your hair, do your facials, nails and toes.

Search the Trollcast for @Stratiotis Thailand stories. I'd post them here but I enjoy not being banned.

 

[Teh_Troll]

Doom. Gloom. DDO is dying (still...) Maybe play more, post less?

I can't play during the work day. Thanks to the smart phone I can troll 24x7

 

[Jasparius]

Doom. Gloom. DDO is dying (still...) Maybe play more, post less?

Yeah that will fix it !!

The simple truth is a fraction of the number of people who used to play are still playing.

SSG relies on extracting as much money as possible from a small number of those.

Every whale who leaves causes a dent in the profits. So SSG only care about the whales.

Us regular VIP who dont fork out extra are nice but not needed. We could leave and little changes.

New players bring nothing at all.

 

[Indyanna]

He's not there yet as he's only Level 7. The Sands of Mechnectarun is ML11-15?
Also, that ring of spell storing chest seems to have nerfed the drop rate after the release of Myth Drannor.
The release notes said they up the wilderness chests named table. I don't know the details of that *coughs* fix.
One of my character(s) was using the Saltmarsh VIP pot and looted that chest for about an hour. Nothing drops.

Yeah, see the spell storing ring chest note above.


You probably should mention the Torc and the various loot that can get mana while being hit.

I would also mention warlock. That Eldritch Blast does not use mana.

I mean I should hope he’s there now.. it’s been ages since this thread started and I also specified that it may not be useful straight away but sure.

You do know you can also just buy them with antique bronze tokens…

 

[Tyrande]

I mean I should hope he’s there now.. it’s been ages since this thread started and I also specified that it may not be useful straight away but sure.

You do know you can also just buy them with antique bronze tokens…

Right, 625 of those bronze tokens. One of the major complaints of Myth Drannor is that there is no sense of progression. i.e. no bones like in the Isle of Dread or no bronze tokens currency here like in the desert of Mechnectarun.

I certainly hope he is > level 10 by now. But who knows. Remember it took us months to go from level 7 to level 16 back then; and raiding the Demon Queen and Velah was just once a week; and people were saying where are the Bloodstone...

 

[Br4d]

I suggest you roll a dragon lord. They are overpowered right now and can do DPS, CC and instant kills better than the wizard you have and have more hit points, defenses; and can do CC and instant kills without using mana. Yes, they can also self heal.

FYI- The developers right now hate casters...

Best thing to do when frustration about power levels peaks is to roll up a powerful alt using the current OP whatever that is.

Warlock probably saved my DDO life back in the day after I got frustrated with a dual shortsword build in the late teens that just could not handle some quests.

 

[Deadalot]

I've been playing for 5 weeks and, honestly, like most of those who come to know this game, I've given up playing.

An RPG where the Wizard is always out of mana and has no way to buy mana potions, nor is there any way to even drain mana, is not an RPG.

I remember this frustration when I was new and playing casters for the first time. Now, I know that the answers are out there, but many new players don't even know what search terms to use. I don't know the solution. DDO is a great, old game and I suspect many new players need more hand-holding than the game can reasonably provide.

 

[Weazlelips]

The games premise is great, its all the bs that comes after.. every new expansion has a different crafting scheme, there are so many. Unless you pay for each expansion and give 3 years to get 1 set done.. its not viable for new players. This really needs to be streamlined.

 

[Br4d]

The games premise is great, its all the bs that comes after.. every new expansion has a different crafting scheme, there are so many. Unless you pay for each expansion and give 3 years to get 1 set done.. its not viable for new players. This really needs to be streamlined.

SSG really should make the basic version of all x-pacs free when you buy the latest one. They also should not retire the ultimate and collectors versions for any x-pac in which they did not expressly lay that in the terms.

No need to bundle x-pacs any more in a lower tier. Just let them all back out in their pre-order glory. That would get people (old and new) spending money on x-pacs as previously lost bonus items became available.

 

[dur]

If you already purchased all the content it is one of the cheapest. Getting there is kind of expensive.

"Getting there" is part of the FOMO, IMO. SSG has given away content for 2 years now.

Besides, isn't the whole argument for not fixing bugs is they need to push MOAR paid content ,etc, so they (SSG) don't kill the game?

"Streamlining" is easy imHo. Don't buy the expansions that push a new crafting system.

 

[dur]

Yeah, well, sorry for being born and live in a poor country where people make $100 (at best) per month.
Giving all of your monthly salary for DDO VIP and stay hungry, without water/electricity and a fine for failure to pay rent is not fun, you know.
So, excuse me, I'd rather give my money to someone who creates local prices.
Well, SSG doesn't want my money anyway...

W T F ?

So how are you able to get online? I mean, are you at an internet cafe? How did you get there? Did you walk 5 miles or did you drive? And why aren't you working? And I am disappointed to see the likes to your pitiful attempt at shaming me.

It's your choice to give that money. It is a game, aka Leisure. Good thing you don't PLAY loTRO

 

[Weazlelips]

Sorry for your plight..but if ya only make 100 a month..maybe you shud spend your money on groceries instead of a game.

 

[Archaic]

I've been playing for 5 weeks and, honestly, like most of those who come to know this game, I've given up playing.

An RPG where the Wizard is always out of mana and has no way to buy mana potions, nor is there any way to even drain mana, is not an RPG.

Every RPG I've ever played has never had problems with mana. And in every RPG I've ever played, I only play Wizard.

If this game requires a Wizard to act like a Gandalf, swinging swords to save mana for the final boss of each stage, then make the Wizard as strong as a Gandalf. And even if they did this, it still wouldn't be an RPG Wizard, but at least this would be helpful.

This game has no wizards. Real wizards use mana, but if this game doesn't have easily accessible mana potions, then this is not an RPG, but rather a slot game, where we have to pay real money to at least have the basics to do the basics, which is that the Wizard has mana!

Can someone please tell the developers that Wizard needs mana?

I'm not even going to list the other thousand defects of this game so as not to run out of mana.

This explains why games like Tibia have had 32 thousand players online for two decades, while this one, if it has 1,600, is a lot. And look, Tibia didn't even have sound until two years ago...

Mana potions, developers...mana potions...

Arcane casters are not really the best to start with if you are new to the game. You want something with a lot of hp or healing capability right at the get go and unless you are running with other people you don't want to push the difficulty level beyond what you can handle until you learn/experience more. DDO takes a lot of patience, and it kind of forces you to do a lot of "homework" on all it's mechanics.
There are things that can generate spell points when hit for example... you would want to get/craft those as a caster.
How almost everyone started is playing the most easiest to play classes first and they did grinds for gear they would need for the next class they would be taking.
The best advice though for a new player...ASK TO JOIN A GUILD.
There is too much to be said, you need veteran players to help you...