Would you stop playing if there isn't a Hardcore server ?

Would you stop playing if there isn't a Hardcore server ?

  • Yes

  • No

  • N/A - Does not play Hardcore

  • N/A - In a Permadeath guild on other server

  • N/A - Never would join a random LFG


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Dradle

I'm only here to Help.
There isn't a Hardcore server so... And how does "Never would join a random LFG" factor into this?
A solo player that would play by permadeath rules even if no one is looking or maybe a group of 2 or 6. So you really don't need a whole server to yourself, if you are going to hold yourself and group to the rules.
 
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Weaponalpha

Well-known member
2 or 6? Not 3, 4 or 5? I assume this all means something to you but it is very random unless you explain. Anyway, I would love to have a permanent Hardcore server. No, I won't quit if they don't create one. I have several Permadeath toons including one from the Unofficial Hardcore League that KozyBean thought of. To make the server truly "Hardcore" would mean no DDO store, no shared bank, no auction house, no AS auction house, etc and DDO would make far less money on it so don't see it happening anytime soon but if it does I'll be there.
 

Dradle

I'm only here to Help.
2 or 6? Not 3, 4 or 5? I assume this all means something to you but it is very random unless you explain. Anyway, I would love to have a permanent Hardcore server. No, I won't quit if they don't create one. I have several Permadeath toons including one from the Unofficial Hardcore League that KozyBean thought of. To make the server truly "Hardcore" would mean no DDO store, no shared bank, no auction house, no AS auction house, etc and DDO would make far less money on it so don't see it happening anytime soon but if it does I'll be there.
Ok, that is why in a guild was an option. There will be some people who might not ever play Hardcore again. I'm hoping to hear their voice about the subject.
 

TrinityTurtle

Forum Turtle
I liked the hardcore events, I played most including the repeats (both to get the first two seasons I failed before I learned to make my add issues work in a hardcore setting, then to help friends who failed the other seasons or returned even after I'd already gotten the rewards). It was fun, and it is a lovely little bit of nostalgia from when I started first playing ddo in 2009 when no one has anything and everyone is willing to help out for common survival and goals, and meeting new random people and having interesting conversations. It's a fun moment.

That being said, it's never going to overtake the joy of toons I worked on, and long term friendships I have made. There are friends who have been here for me on my private teamspeak server that i made in the guild who went beyond the game when my life fell apart, and that is irreplaceable. No nostalgia event can ever beat that. if there is never another hardcore, despite it having been fun, I really won't care. I think the reason I'm still playing this game so long is the people, not any playstyle or event.
 

Pilbie

Active member
I don't want a permanent HC server. I just want hardcore back the way it was.
That said, I haven't played in months. I keep checking back to see if they will bring back Hardcore, and if they do, I will return.
That option isn't on your survey, so I didn't take part. But that's my answer.
 

Baconator

Well-known member
#1 I will NEVER reply to your polls.
#2 with 64 bit servers, they will be able to have HCish events like Lantern in the mist. So no more HC dedicated servers. You'll be able to participate or not on your home server
 

Mornyngstar

Ymerawdwr
#1 I will NEVER reply to your polls.
#2 with 64 bit servers, they will be able to have HCish events like Lantern in the mist. So no more HC dedicated servers. You'll be able to participate or not on your home server
Completely wrong. Tolero stated in a Fridays at Four that their plans for going forward is to do Hardcore seasons again next year. They were unable to this year do to the implementation of the 64-bit servers. (The people that would set up the server is the same ones doing fixes on the 64-bit servers, it came down to an either or situation.) Tolero also stated that the hardcore season would be on a 64-bit server.

As to the "Hardcoreish events", that is something that was tested with Lanterns in the Mist and the upcoming Fey Shenanigans. It is a complete separate event that yes was inspired by feedback from Hardcore. There was mention of a possible redux of Lanterns also.
 

Blaster

Well-known member
Completely wrong. Tolero stated in a Fridays at Four that their plans for going forward is to do Hardcore seasons again next year. They were unable to this year do to the implementation of the 64-bit servers. (The people that would set up the server is the same ones doing fixes on the 64-bit servers, it came down to an either or situation.) Tolero also stated that the hardcore season would be on a 64-bit server.

As to the "Hardcoreish events", that is something that was tested with Lanterns in the Mist and the upcoming Fey Shenanigans. It is a complete separate event that yes was inspired by feedback from Hardcore. There was mention of a possible redux of Lanterns also.
This is not what Tolero said.

If you're referencing THIS appearance Tolero made on Fridays at Four this past February at no point did she explicitly say the plan is to do more traditional hardcore seasons in the future. In terms of the 64-bit discussion, you may be referencing what Tolero is saying at the 30:02 mark until the 31: 20 mark HERE, again Tolero only specifies what is happening in 2024, nothing beyond.

There's no information on what could come of a future true hardcore event at this time. Could there be a traditional hardcore season hosted on a dedicated 64-bit server sometime after 2024, *my guess is* anything is possible, but again, no one officially at SSG has said so. When the time comes to officially comment on such a subject, SSG will do so in an official capacity, anything until then is just conjecture.

Players will often get ideas in their heads based on something they think they heard or read somewhere and take it as gospel and then be disappointed or angry at the devs when what they *think* they knew didn't come to pass because of information they came across on a given subject not 100% official and verified.

The dev team is very careful with what they say because they know anything they say can create this phenomenon. Unless you see something stated in an official capacity, usually by Tolero and/or Severlin, and can show where they said these things, anything is conjecture and should be stated as such.
 

DDO Gaming

Well-known member
100 slots. Committed until SSG finally kills DDO (y) :)

BTW Dradle "Elminster except when I'm not" seeing your love for eureka why are you posting polls discouraging folks from playing DDO?
 
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Mornyngstar

Ymerawdwr
This is not what Tolero said.

If you're referencing THIS appearance Tolero made on Fridays at Four this past February at no point did she explicitly say the plan is to do more traditional hardcore seasons in the future. In terms of the 64-bit discussion, you may be referencing what Tolero is saying at the 30:02 mark until the 31: 20 mark HERE, again Tolero only specifies what is happening in 2024, nothing beyond.

There's no information on what could come of a future true hardcore event at this time. Could there be a traditional hardcore season hosted on a dedicated 64-bit server sometime after 2024, *my guess is* anything is possible, but again, no one officially at SSG has said so. When the time comes to officially comment on such a subject, SSG will do so in an official capacity, anything until then is just conjecture.

Players will often get ideas in their heads based on something they think they heard or read somewhere and take it as gospel and then be disappointed or angry at the devs when what they *think* they knew didn't come to pass because of information they came across on a given subject not 100% official and verified.

The dev team is very careful with what they say because they know anything they say can create this phenomenon. Unless you see something stated in an official capacity, usually by Tolero and/or Severlin, and can show where they said these things, anything is conjecture and should be stated as such.
Thank you for pointing to the relevant section, it made transcribing it easier:

Tolero "We do still like the fresh start aspect of hardcore like when you start on the server right, the auctions are empty, everybody’s banks are empty. That’s much different than when it’s on an existing world where people sort of they have their twinks and they’re able to kind of go in and use existing characters even though you’re characters even though you’re starting at level one, it’s like well I’m starting at level one but I’ve still got this shared bank and ect ect. Uh so those are the things that would still, that’s the piece where we’re like there’s still an advantage to doing a hardcore server. Now the trick is we’re been very focused on the 64-bit server opening this year which means all the resources that go into opening and closing servers, they’re going to be focused on that this year so we knew that we were, there’s no way we were going to be able to fit in a separate hardcore server while we’re in the middle of that. The other trick is our server infrastructure that we normally use for hardcore is 32-bit so we need to facelift that up so there were too many logistical pieces to make that work for this year. We’re like you know what, we still want to do an event and we think based on how the lanterns went we think we can still bring a hardcore element with leaderboards to the broad servers for this year."

Red portion: Why do a facelift if it is not planned?
 

TrinityTurtle

Forum Turtle
The people who quit b/c there's no hardcore server won't ever see this thread.
YOu underestimate the weird obession people who quite the game have with coming to talk on the forums. That's been going on for years, and I don't get it. LOL But it's a thing.
 

vik

Well-known member
YOu underestimate the weird obession people who quite the game have with coming to talk on the forums. That's been going on for years, and I don't get it. LOL But it's a thing.
I used to play Neverwinter Online until Cryptic made too many cash grabs for my taste. Sometimes when you quit a game you invested a lot of time in you hang around for awhile on the forums to see if they change their mind, seek closure, etc. Eventually you get tired of it and leave for good and don't care anymore.
 
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