DPS approximation in char planners?

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I am the one who made this website: http://www.mmlddo.com/
It gets some visits but it is kind of expensive to keep up, so i have been thinking. what if the info found on the site was incorporated into the planners? Then maybe i could take down the site and save me some money.

I will be happy to help with anything.
 
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I tried your planner and it seems you already have the damage from each weapon so i guess what you need is the attack speed. When you have that it should be pretty simple for you to calculate a dps.

The thing is data is missing. But the optimal thing would be if i made a function in 2d that takes the BAB and melee alacrity as inputs and outputtet an "attacks per second".

How does that sound?
 
Maetrim of Cannith

Maetrim of Cannith

DDOBuilder Creator
Summoner said:
I tried your planner and it seems you already have the damage from each weapon so i guess what you need is the attack speed. When you have that it should be pretty simple for you to calculate a dps.

The thing is data is missing. But the optimal thing would be if i made a function in 2d that takes the BAB and melee alacrity as inputs and outputtet an "attacks per second".

How does that sound?
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Thats the kind of info I want, but I also want to be able to chain together lists of specific attacks. e.g.

Cleave
Exalted Smite
Regular attack
Regular Attack
Great Cleave

etc
So I will be needing info on how long any specific attack type takes to execute, which may differ by Race or Sex. Once I have all that I should be bale to put together a reasonal DPS calculator, but the what your proposing is a good start.
 
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Maetrim of Cannith said:
Thats the kind of info I want, but I also want to be able to chain together lists of specific attacks. e.g.

Cleave
Exalted Smite
Regular attack
Regular Attack
Great Cleave

etc
So I will be needing info on how long any specific attack type takes to execute, which may differ by Race or Sex. Once I have all that I should be bale to put together a reasonal DPS calculator, but the what your proposing is a good start.
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It seems like it is a big mess with the data and i am not making more tests. I will do a write up of it all and then you can see if you can use it. Mind you data is very old.
 
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Here is what is currently on my website:
var CarponeInq=[134.63, 136.87, 139.11, 141.34, 143.58, 145.82, 148.06, 150.30, 152.53, 154.77, 157.01, 159.25, 161.49, 163.72, 165.96, 168.20, 170.44, 172.68];
var VanshilarUnarmed=[93.2, 99.3, 105.3, 111.3, 117.4, 123.4, 129.4, 135.5, 141.5, 147.5, 153.5, 159.6, 165.6];
var VanshilarTWF=[86.7, 91.8, 97.0, 102.2, 107.4, 112.6, 117.8, 123.0, 128.1, 133.3, 138.5, 143.7, 148.9];
var VanshilarFastTHF=[86.5, 91.0, 95.4, 99.9, 104.4, 108.8, 113.3, 117.8, 122.2, 126.7, 131.2, 135.6, 140.1];
var VanshilarSlowTHF=[86.6, 90.8, 95.0, 99.1, 103.3, 107.5, 111.6, 115.8, 119.9, 124.1, 128.3, 132.4, 136.6];

var MrCowTWF=[87.59, 91.95, 96.77, 102.13, 108.11, 113.21, 118.23, 123.08, 127.66, 133.33];
var MrCowFastTHF=[88.89, 92.31, 96.00, 100.00, 104.35, 109.09, 113.74, 118.23, 121.83, 126.32];
var MrCowSlowTHF=[85.71, 88.89, 92.31, 96.00, 100.00, 104.35, 109.09, 114.29, 120.00, 126.32];
var MrCowUnarmed=[96.00, 100.00, 104.35, 109.09, 114.29, 120.00, 126.32, 133.33, 141.18, 150.00];

var MrCowBow=[53.36, 55.13, 56.89, 58.65, 60.41, 62.17, 63.93, 65.69, 67.45, 69.21, 70.98, 72.74, 74.50];
var MrCowThrown=[53.36, 55.58, 57.79, 60.01, 62.22, 64.44, 66.65, 68.87, 71.08, 73.30, 75.51, 77.73, 79.94];

var TimoteoDeLaniHeavyRepeater=[60*100/55.];

var UltinoobWolf=[114.8, 123.13, 131.46, 139.79, 148.12, 156.45, 164.78, 173.11, 181.44, 189.77, 198.1, 206.43, 214.76];
var UltinoobBear=[72.29, 77.53, 82.77, 88.01, 93.25, 98.49, 103.73, 108.97, 114.21, 119.45, 124.69, 129.93, 135.17, 140.41, 145.65, 150.89, 156.13, 161.37];

All are starting at alacrity 0 and each step is 5 more alacrity. All are tested at BAB 20 except bear form which is at 14 BAB. Heavy repeater is at BAB 19. Carpone inquisitive is at BAB 19.

These are the attacks per minute not including offhand attacks, doublestrike or shield procs.

This is the best i can do for now. Seems like the only data that takes both BAB and alacrity into account is bear and wolf forms... Data for bows are probably obsolete as they redid that some time ago but it is the best we got.

from here: https://forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/275144-Vanshilar-s-Attack-Speed-Index-and-Formulae
Fast THF (greataxe, quarterstaff)
Slow THF (greatsword)

That is what is on my website and the best i can do without going through all the post about attack speed to see if there is some info i forgot.
 
Maetrim of Cannith

Maetrim of Cannith

DDOBuilder Creator
Summoner said:
Here is what is currently on my website:
var CarponeInq=[134.63, 136.87, 139.11, 141.34, 143.58, 145.82, 148.06, 150.30, 152.53, 154.77, 157.01, 159.25, 161.49, 163.72, 165.96, 168.20, 170.44, 172.68];
var VanshilarUnarmed=[93.2, 99.3, 105.3, 111.3, 117.4, 123.4, 129.4, 135.5, 141.5, 147.5, 153.5, 159.6, 165.6];
var VanshilarTWF=[86.7, 91.8, 97.0, 102.2, 107.4, 112.6, 117.8, 123.0, 128.1, 133.3, 138.5, 143.7, 148.9];
var VanshilarFastTHF=[86.5, 91.0, 95.4, 99.9, 104.4, 108.8, 113.3, 117.8, 122.2, 126.7, 131.2, 135.6, 140.1];
var VanshilarSlowTHF=[86.6, 90.8, 95.0, 99.1, 103.3, 107.5, 111.6, 115.8, 119.9, 124.1, 128.3, 132.4, 136.6];

var MrCowTWF=[87.59, 91.95, 96.77, 102.13, 108.11, 113.21, 118.23, 123.08, 127.66, 133.33];
var MrCowFastTHF=[88.89, 92.31, 96.00, 100.00, 104.35, 109.09, 113.74, 118.23, 121.83, 126.32];
var MrCowSlowTHF=[85.71, 88.89, 92.31, 96.00, 100.00, 104.35, 109.09, 114.29, 120.00, 126.32];
var MrCowUnarmed=[96.00, 100.00, 104.35, 109.09, 114.29, 120.00, 126.32, 133.33, 141.18, 150.00];

var MrCowBow=[53.36, 55.13, 56.89, 58.65, 60.41, 62.17, 63.93, 65.69, 67.45, 69.21, 70.98, 72.74, 74.50];
var MrCowThrown=[53.36, 55.58, 57.79, 60.01, 62.22, 64.44, 66.65, 68.87, 71.08, 73.30, 75.51, 77.73, 79.94];

var TimoteoDeLaniHeavyRepeater=[60*100/55.];

var UltinoobWolf=[114.8, 123.13, 131.46, 139.79, 148.12, 156.45, 164.78, 173.11, 181.44, 189.77, 198.1, 206.43, 214.76];
var UltinoobBear=[72.29, 77.53, 82.77, 88.01, 93.25, 98.49, 103.73, 108.97, 114.21, 119.45, 124.69, 129.93, 135.17, 140.41, 145.65, 150.89, 156.13, 161.37];

All are starting at alacrity 0 and each step is 5 more alacrity. All are tested at BAB 20 except bear form which is at 14 BAB. Heavy repeater is at BAB 19. Carpone inquisitive is at BAB 19.

These are the attacks per minute not including offhand attacks, doublestrike or shield procs.

This is the best i can do for now. Seems like the only data that takes both BAB and alacrity into account is bear and wolf forms... Data for bows are probably obsolete as they redid that some time ago but it is the best we got.

from here: https://forums-old.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/275144-Vanshilar-s-Attack-Speed-Index-and-Formulae
Fast THF (greataxe, quarterstaff)
Slow THF (greatsword)

That is what is on my website and the best i can do without going through all the post about attack speed to see if there is some info i forgot.
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Thats a good start. I will see about setting up a data structure that will allow me to look up attack rates for a given attack type and BAB to start with.
 
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