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    Introducing our VIP Loyalty Reward Program!

    My bad, I did not realise that the goal of the VIPLP was to make non-subs whine like little babies. Under that premise it's a very well designed system!
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    Introducing our VIP Loyalty Reward Program!

    And when they reach the fantastic year 2 stuff the early adoptera have moved on to even more fantastic year 4 stuff etc.
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    Bear Dragon Lord?

    If you ever play solo I recommend 15 druid / 5 dragon lord. Strength based with charisma trance. T5 in dragon lord. T4 in natures protector. 15 druid grants the heal spell. It's very nice to have heal on a high dps, very tanky character that can cc everything that is cc'able
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    Introducing our VIP Loyalty Reward Program!

    What they are calling it is irrelevant. The outcome is what matters. Adding strong/valuable rewards at 5 year sub will not make turn a non-vip to a vip. It will far more likely make them play something else.
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    RXP stones !

    Oh man. Shared grind is desperately needed, the situation for alts is getting worse and worse each year. I just don't think RXP should be a part of it. It's the quintessential endgame-grind that should stay strictly character specific to encourage players to push all their characters and not...
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    Fix Experience point token items

    They specifically don't want you you hoard these things, so don't expect a fix.
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    Well you have not really explained the problem with having to log on to get a reward for logging on. It's a standard practice and not controversial in any way.
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    The problem you describe would not be elivated by what is asked for to any significant degree. An endless reward track will be a disaster even if you don't have to log on to get the reward.
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    No, not really. You are left equally behind regardless if you sub and fail to log in or if you unsub and fail to log in.
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    Well then you might as well tilt at windmills because providing a reward for logging in is not an actual problem. It is in fact perfectly reasonable and a good design. What makes the reward program bad is the endless reward track. That is what causes both the "FOMO" and the "meh" and will make...
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    If you subscribe to Netflix but don't watch anything for a few months you don't get free months added to your account when you finally get back on. What you are gettint at is basically a trade-off between encouraging logging in and encouraging staying subbed when not playing. I would much...
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    Where I am from it would be completely absurd to buy a plane ticket, miss the flight and show up a month later and expect to be able to board. But you don't pay for the items. A part of the transaction to get the items is logging in.
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    You're going to take this VIPLP and you're going to like it.

    The free code was great. It still removed value from VIP. That is the stated reason behind the "VIP Loyalty program" to begin with. The problem is that the VIPLP does not come close to make up for what was lost and structure of the system is inherently bad and will create massive problems over time.
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    If you buy tickets to a show and don't show up, do you expect to get a refund? If you want the reward you failed to earn by not logging in you can still get it by resubbing. If at that point you only sub for a month and miss out on the 12m discount that is, again, on you.
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    Still, encouraging log on is perfectly reasonable. To get the rewards you have to pay for VIP AND log on. It's perfectly clear at the point of purchase that that's whats required. Out of all the problems with this system, requiring players to actually log on to the game is not one of them.
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    Yes but that will be equally true if you unsub for the missed month. To unsub to not miss out on the reward makes just as much sense as unsubing to not miss out on your gold rolls.
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    You're going to take this VIPLP and you're going to like it.

    Accept? Did you mean "make up out of thin air as an excuse"?
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    You're going to take this VIPLP and you're going to like it.

    Here's my theory. The devs don't want players to sub. That their data shows that players who don't sub are more likely to buy DDO-points and that players tend to got for the large high-value point packs and that players are more likely to spend their DDO points the more of them they have. In...
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    You're going to take this VIPLP and you're going to like it.

    Sorry to break it to you but the complaints about this system will never go away. There is too much wrong with it and it gets even worse over time. The insinuation that the devs can't have gotten this system wrong is ironic considering the fact that the last time they tried they messed up so bad...
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    VIP program is going to literally cost SSG money - not a whiny quit post

    So just like the weekly gold dice works. It's not an issue, encouraging players to log on is perfectly reasonable to do.
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