FVSHasBeenEvenMoreGutted
Well-known member
but melee is getting buffed, i thought you hated melee???!!?!??!!?!?!!??!?
U62 Preview 2 W Scalar Revamp
- Thread starter Torc
- Start date
- Status
Mordenkainen
Please SSG, no more nerfs. Thank you!
overall, it's not going to be much of a buff (maybe an itty bitty one) especially with what I think they (the devs) are planning in subsequent content releases.
Remember, everything looks good when it's shiny and new ... until it isn't.
fiwabar
Old-timer, mostly an observer
All weapons now are on one copy: xW+y dmg dice and W depending on the base dice for the weapon. Weapons from CitW, sometimes from some quests - Harbinger of Madness, Tome of Untold Legends, the Mindsunder, Black Abbot, the former ones from ToEE and single cases like Epic Antique Greataxe - had a lot of weapons with unusual DMG dice, multiplier, or even damage type.
It is good that you want to equalize some things. Weapons from stormhorns, for example, are very weak for their level precisely because of this W multiplier. It's also good that you don't interfere, from what I understand, with the damage dice of weapons and shields only with their W multiplier, because the uniqueness of the items found in these quests makes them attractive. However, it would be nice if this was repeated more often. By the way, Epic Antique Greataxe has a 2d20 bone, and Legendary Antique Greataxe already has a 5d12 rather than 5d20, aside from other things it's a bit of an inconsistency.
It is good that you want to equalize some things. Weapons from stormhorns, for example, are very weak for their level precisely because of this W multiplier. It's also good that you don't interfere, from what I understand, with the damage dice of weapons and shields only with their W multiplier, because the uniqueness of the items found in these quests makes them attractive. However, it would be nice if this was repeated more often. By the way, Epic Antique Greataxe has a 2d20 bone, and Legendary Antique Greataxe already has a 5d12 rather than 5d20, aside from other things it's a bit of an inconsistency.
Mordenkainen
Please SSG, no more nerfs. Thank you!
Think LegAntiqueGA is supposed to be 5d20. Report on Bug report in the other thread?
Don't worry, it's a bit of a nerf at levels 10-13 and 29 . . .
The Blonde
Catalogues Bugs
It is not intended to be 5d20. All peculiar ML20 profiles are standardized at ML30.
Mordenkainen
Please SSG, no more nerfs. Thank you!
Ah , ok. Understood.
The Blonde
Catalogues Bugs
Admittedly I did not loot new randomgen weapons or craft any weapons on Lamannia. I merely checked the values of a couple randomgen weapons (and a couple of crafted weapons) I had in the inventory of a character I transferred from the live servers. Since the named weapons on that same toon adopted the new formula, I expected that randomgen/crafted weapons would too. It may be the case that only new copies of randomgen/crafted weapons get the new [W] formula. The weapons I checked were ML 30 (crafted back when ML34 was available and then stat-squeezed down to ML30) and still had 4[W] instead of the new 5[W].
Last edited:
nobodynobody1426
Well-known member
Overall the idea is fine, any plans / discussions / talk to fix the raid and schism shard weapons to not get nerfed? A weapon from a level 32 raid having lower stats then one from level 31 quest is kinda ... wrong.
These weapons were made ML28 back in Update 41 as part of the raid tier system with level cap of 30.
Update 41 Release Notes
These are the release notes for Update 41: The Khorvaire Shipment, released on Wednesday, December 5th, 2018.
Then the massive stat squish happened.
Last edited:
fiwabar
Old-timer, mostly an observer
If this is intentional then I consider it a mistake IMO. Doing everything on one hoof, from one stamp. It becomes boring and less attractive when you equalize all the variety, peculiar cases
Ok, well this is better than I thought if that wasn't intentional. I was really starting to think the team had lost their minds ;-)
I agree, Raid items should't be nerf, I would rather have those weapons levels be raise to 30 than loose the 0.4 weapon dmg.Overall the idea is fine, any plans / discussions / talk to fix the raid and schism shard weapons to not get nerfed? A weapon from a level 32 raid having lower stats then one from level 31 quest is kinda ... wrong.
These weapons were made ML28 back in Update 41 as part of the raid tier system with level cap of 30.
Update 41 Release Notes
These are the release notes for Update 41: The Khorvaire Shipment, released on Wednesday, December 5th, 2018.www.ddo.com
Tier 4 was ML29
Then the massive stat squish happened.
Aelonwy
Well-known member
So Cannith Crafted should be following this new progression? Good.
You guys really need to bite the bullet and revisit the loot tables of content dropping N/H/E/EN/EH/EE versions of loot. It was an intriguing loot experiment when you did it, didn't end up being the best idea, however loot currently is pretty awesome so *thumbs up* on progress... But now that means this old style difficulty-tiered loot is a weird anomaly, an inconsistency that needs to stop. So please find some time and erase this blunder from the game. If you need something to pay for it, I suggest doing a small cosmetic bundle for each pack its associated with... but DON'T price it like an expansion... because its NOT an expansion.
Gianthold, Wheloon, Stormhorns, High Road, Druid's Deep. Did I miss any?
Gianthold... heck this could be as easy as putting all the dragon armors as cosmetics in the store, all they need is matching cloaks that look like dragon wings lying down the back. Also Shadow Dragonscale could use a matching helm.
Druid's Deep... I always wanted something like the Livewood Core for a fleshy race, mossy with vines.
High Road... Harper's cosmetic Bundle with visible Harper Pin on the outfit, maybe a Harp shield or Orb. Make the cloak similar in style to the Tiefling Scoundrel one shoulder cloak.
Wheloon... a Shadar-kai-esque style everyone can enjoy?
Stormhorns... something Ranger-like, maybe pull this art file out of wherever its been buried:
Center 4 images
wdhvenrick
Well-known member
Please make schisms weapons not get nerfed. They still need raid +W dice for their level
Mordenkainen
Please SSG, no more nerfs. Thank you!
You guys do realize that it's not that huge of a nerf.
I mean a .2 to .5W loss on the weapon damage only... not really significant.
I mean a .2 to .5W loss on the weapon damage only... not really significant.
The Blonde
Catalogues Bugs
For the raid weapons? Sure, especially given the fact that one obvious goal of this pass is to get us to stop using them.
But for the Schism Shard weapons? It's not about the 0.2 lost [W]. It's about the principle of it.
somenewnoob
Well-known member
Here's your Cowboy hat, welcome to your first rodeo.
Mordenkainen
Please SSG, no more nerfs. Thank you!
Agree with you on schism shard weapons.
In fact, I have to ask, what place do these non-IoD weapons have anymore? I mean why do KT or VoD Sharn Fey or any of the other raids? Why not just "get to the point" and grab yourself the IoD weapons when you hit 30?
Spook
Well-known member
Well because Dino weapons are min level 31
- Status