axel15810
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For my answer to why, see the rest of that post.Why? Seems perfectly reasonable to provide equal appreciation.
It's not perfectly reasonable.
For my answer to why, see the rest of that post.Why? Seems perfectly reasonable to provide equal appreciation.
The rest of your post does not support the thesis that equal compensation is unreasonable, you make the case that it is in fact equal compensation.For my answer to why, see the rest of that post.
It's not perfectly reasonable.
It literally proved the opposite. Free year of the dragon stuff ? Keep forever. Their vip loyalty reward ? At least initially, not keep forever. (Doesn’t matter if they changed it, it’s how they think)Are you confusing "The Year of the Dragon" with the upcoming VIP appreciation coming soon? I think that the VIP appreciation rollout proves that SSG values their paying customer/players.
The problem is the lesson learned. If you wait long enough you can get very valuable items for free, but only if you were smart enough not to pay for them. That isn't the lesson SSG should be wanting to teach their players. If anything, the reward for people that own everything should be slightly better than a free expansion so the lesson is, "I better buy every expansion so I am eligible for the best reward." These events are opportunities to train the player base to behave the way SSG wants and this is training in the wrong direction. At the very least it could have been a stack of 5 of the two best types of elixirs (one to increase drop % chance like the one we got, and one to increase drop quality like on a treasure hunter weekend).
I ignored the immediate perk of buying an expansion because the discussion was whether any of the people that purchased the expansion would second guess their decision because they realize they would have been better off just waiting patiently. The goal is to have no one second guessing themselves. You seem to think if you just tell people that they should be happy then they will be. That doesn't work on wives, and it doesn't work on video game players either. The goal is to actually allow them to feel happy. There have been good suggestions already in this thread that would make people genuinely glad that they did buy all the expansions. There should be no need to convince them to be happy. They should simply naturally feel happy when they see the plan for the event.You mentioned that SSG rewards patience, but I highlighted the immediate perks of purchasing an expansion. It seems you've sidestepped that point. While you discuss the nuances of influencing behavior—a commendable professional focus—this situation is straightforward. It's not about manipulation; it's a straightforward giveaway. When you purchase an expansion, you receive the promised content, and any additional giveaways are just a bonus, a token of goodwill from SSG. There's no need to overthink it; it's a simple act of appreciation.
You've willingly ignored my points and haven't provided a rebuttal. It's futile to continue this discussion if my arguments are disregarded without consideration. It seems unlikely that we'll reach an agreement, given our differing perspectives. I believe that free is a sign of good will, and you believe in Well uhhh ... I am not really sure what you believe in. I've been going back and forth in this thread explaining the difference between being free and being entitled, and I think it would be presumptuous if I started quoting myself. Therefore, I'm withdrawing myself from this debate. ByeI ignored the immediate perk of buying an expansion because the discussion was whether any of the people that purchased the expansion would second guess their decision because they realize they would have been better off just waiting patiently. The goal is to have no one second guessing themselves. You seem to think if you just tell people that they should be happy then they will be. That doesn't work on wives, and it doesn't work on video game players either. The goal is to actually allow them to feel happy. There have been good suggestions already in this thread that would make people genuinely glad that they did buy all the expansions. There should be no need to convince them to be happy. They should simply naturally feel happy when they see the plan for the event.
Giving away an expansion for a prize in the month of the Dragon is an excellent idea. However, giving those who have all the expansions an elixir of discovery that lasts one hour is not commiserate value. DDO continually struggles to reward its most loyal customers. Consider the players who have purchased ultimate editions of each expansion, spending over $1000 on content. This is the revenue that drives the game. Giving people a 60-minute potion for their loyalty feels hollow.
Perhaps there is some sort of disconnect on what these elixirs are worth? The 10% named item boost is fairly worthless. Especially when compared to +10 treasure hunter weekends where named items (often with reaper attributes) drop all over the place. How many quests are you getting done in an hour? How many chests will you even open with a mere 10% boost?
Players that have all the expansions should have been given something valuable, like an unbound Otto's Box, Wish of Inheritance, or a Card Cleanser that they could use or sell for astral shards. The price of these items is about what an expansion costs in the DDO store. We have supported the game for years (decade) buying each expansion. It would be nice if we got something other than a 60-minute Big Mac.
I don't know how many times I have run the Morgrave expansion on r10 without seeing drops let alone a reaper boosted or mythic Item.Or flag your account to grant a boost for 24 hours (or whatever time span) when you choose to claim it.
And yes, an increased percentage is also needed.
I'm not ignoring your points. Yes, people that buy the expansion early get access to the expansion early. For some people that is enough. Those people are not here on the thread complaining. This thread is about those that are complaining and you seem to reference getting the expansion early as though that will persuade them to no longer have a problem. I'm not saying anyone deserves anything or is entitled to anything. The world is not fair, and you don't get what you deserve.You've willingly ignored my points and haven't provided a rebuttal. It's futile to continue this discussion if my arguments are disregarded without consideration. It seems unlikely that we'll reach an agreement, given our differing perspectives. I believe that free is a sign of good will, and you believe in Well uhhh ... I am not really sure what you believe in. I've been going back and forth in this thread explaining the difference between being free and being entitled, and I think it would be presumptuous if I started quoting myself. Therefore, I'm withdrawing myself from this debate. Bye
Everyone who didn't buy season tickets got free tickets to the next gameI got season tickets for hockey once, and at some of the games they gave us hotdogs and a drink.... shame on them! you know what I paid for those tickets???? a hotdog and a stinky beverage! really??
Sure. I'd be happy for them as well.Everyone who didn't buy season tickets got free tickets to the next game
Still happy about that hot dog and drink?
Nah.I got season tickets for hockey once, and at some of the games they gave us hotdogs and a drink.... shame on them! you know what I paid for those tickets???? a hotdog and a stinky beverage! really??
Yes.Do elixirs work in raids?