not if they suffer from the same ladder bug as all the other ladders in the game.The assassinate "fix" is just another knife in the Monks back, so once they stick a few more in, you can climb up their back like a ladder.
Then at least, they'll be useful for getting things off the top shelf.
That's scarily accurate, SSG's bug list is so long, the pages of them are referred to as "game features".not if they suffer from the same ladder bug as all the other ladders in the game.
Then this is indeed a huge nerf then to QP. I wish they never changed it to assassinate then. My level 16 monk has 56 wisdom with +23 modifier. With deadly instincts 1/2 of that modifier (+11) would be added to my chance for QP to succeed. I can get a max of +5 assassinate ability with crafting assassinate and insightful assassinate onto equipment. Even if I now spend on the Falconry enhancement "Watch the Center" I only get +3 more on assassinate for a total of +8. That is a nerf. Not to mention that other enhancements and destinies that add to general tactical dcs will likely no longer function either for QP then which they did before. So even more loss. End game QP I fear will be miserable.
assassinate at level 15 is +8, insightful is +3, falconry is +3, for +14 total, more than your +11 from trance. wiki uses old assassinate scaling, not new one, if thats what you're looking at. at cap, can get +16 enhancement +7 insightful +3 quality +3 falconry +6 shadowdancer very easily (can get more with past lives/dino bone artifact), which is +35. that is equal to 80 wisdom of trance. considering the fact that the DC went from /2 monk level to full monk level, aka another +10, would need over 100 wisdom with old DC to equal new DC (and this isnt including ancient tactics or dino bone or artifact). in addition, QP can now use dex OR wis, so QP basically got a buff at all levels unless you had ~110+ wis on a monk at cap (which for most players is impossible). yes, you will need new gear, but at cap assassinate is super easy to gear, slot the vecna assassinate aug and the gloves from raid and there is all the assassinate you need
Yes I was looking at the wiki for the assassinate numbers, so thank you for correcting me. This looks like a wash then (as I did run at about 108 wisdom at cap). But as you said it is not quite equivalent -- because I have to use up gear at all levels from 15+ to stay equal. So giving up say some doublestrike or dodge or something to include 3 buffs -- quality, normal and insightful -- is still a nerf then. Furthermore I lose other tactical boosts I used to have from enhancements as I noted above. I am much more meh about the change since I stand corrected on the numbers -- but I thought the goal was to buff QP not just find a change of effect which makes me have to re-gear and craft ....again.
Would that be true for r10 which I sometimes run? Those numbers are enough?
Really depends on the Mobs. If their best save is a Fort save, in R10 you'll probably need around a 130 DC to be reliable.