TWF build for End Game

Teh_Troll

Teh_Troll

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Lordpiglet said:
Then what's the current best build and gearing? Human STR Khopesh?
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"Best" is a subjective word that I don't like to use as it is too up to interpretation. I'll just say "strong" instead.

Currently the strongest pure Tempest I know is playing a dex-based Asimar Scimitar build.

I'm currently running a pure shifter dark-hunter. Shifter has a ton of advantages as it's able to rage and get STR very high for a tempest. I'm has a few more DH lives so I'll try something else but so far this is very strong.

Wood elf is good, Horc is good. Seeing a lot of 15/5 pally tempests popping up lately and many of them are horc.

Human STR Khopesh can be okay if you have no racial AP, it might even be the right option if you have none. But Longsword is a better choice as there are better longswords in the game.

You'll want to go through all the races anyway, try them out and see what best fits your style.
 
Thor

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I play a str base WELF Dark Hunter. It's pretty good. I would guess that the 15 pally 5 ranger is probably better. The KOTC tree is just really good, probably one of the strongest melee trees in game, and paladin 15 gets you back most of what you lose by not going pure ranger with spells. Plus you get exalted smite which is just a superior attack to anything that ranger has. Also a nice imbue. Pure paladin TWF might even be better... I just really like DOD and rest of tier 5 tempest. The rest of tempest tree is not particularly exciting though.

Race wise I really like Welf and Aasimar. Welf gets you 8 doublestrike, if you're willing to rage, and +4 damage with longswords... Aasimar +10 melee power, heal amp, and 4 healing hands. A Horc female on screen is just a little more than I can bare.
 
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Stratiotis

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Both Welf and Aasimar can yield 100% standing doublestrike without raging for both STR and DEX tempests. I think Sexy Dexy Aasimar has a small leg up over STR Welf primarily due to better gearing options. Overall, any STR tempest will do a just a little more DPS per hit; BUT if you play aggressively, a Sexy Dexy will keep you alive longer, and still hit exceptionally well. I play both STR Welf and DEX Aasimar, and both have a common baseline of PLs. If I need to get **** done, I go with Sexy Dexy. If I'm casually soloing R4-5, I'll roll with the Welf. I agree with Teh-Troll's comment; "best" is subjective, "Strong" should be what we're all after. ...and maces are a trap
 
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Teh_Troll said:
I'm currently running a pure shifter dark-hunter. Shifter has a ton of advantages as it's able to rage and get STR very high for a tempest.
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Sorry for slight necro, but I need an opinion on this. As a raging tempest, is it possible to get enough fortification bypass for end game, without precission?
 
Serasam

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+30% strikethrough from 5 piece dreadbinger filigree. If I can get over 100 fort bypass with a sentient 2 handed weapon with PA running, you can do it on a one handed weapon and likely easier as a ranger.
 
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Eleazzar said:
Anyone have a build to post an outline of or a complete build to 31 for a TWF Assimar Scourge Ranger build? I am fine with Multi-classing as long as it is better than pure ranger.

Any help on Stats, Feats, etc is appreciated. I have a +8 tome with 8 Racial live, heroic and epic completionist..

Thanks in advance.
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I'm trying this 13rog / 6 rng / 1monk build, but leveling is a pain.

Str based, sun stance for crit multi, longsword via whirling steel, and tier 5 ranger for strikethrough, and tier 4 for dodge clicky.

self heal is kinda bad thou, but maybe on aasimar it's slightly better.
 
Supot

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I Decided to play a Tempest next.
I'm thinking it's definitely going to be a DEX build for the hopefully 15 sec 100% or near 100% dodge ability. Necessary for high reaper.
No one has spoke a lot about the DEX trance of Horizon Walker.
I'm thinking of going Dual Daggers.
Seeking your insight on possible splashes.
Capstone bonuses are things you can get elsewhere so what splash will work?



Thulsadoom said:
I have played over 30 lives of ranger 95% of those were melee, come to think of it, probably more than 30. Most of those were Tempest 41 AP, 31 AP in deepwood. Dex based with Scimitar. Done. The other stuff is trying to make things work that you have an idea for. Look at tier 4 tempest, you can have your dex mod added to your defense with dodge bonus, dex for evasion, armor class......Look at the cores.... fort bypass among other things like double strike. The debuff of deepwood at level 18 is amazing. Debuff on raid boss for whole raid group? It's amazing for team players interested in success and not the kill lead. This past week I have been thinking hard on-going ranger again and doing tempest with vistani knife fighter. In my opinion I think this could be the best currently, with the capstone in vistani and the tier five in tempest. This could let you take two levels in some multiclass because no ranger capstone is used and grab low hanging fruit somewhere.
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Stratiotis

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100% Scimmies. Daggers on a tempest = crapola
If Daggers, go Rogue VKF.
If STR Tempest, go LS
If Sexy Dexy Tempest, go scimmie
This is the way.

Only Tempest splash I know is 15Pal/5Rng...which is not a splash. If you go more than 5 levels of Ranger Tempest, you go pure all the way for the Cap. Anything less is crapola. Splashing a Tempest is self-mutilation; which is frowned upon in western cultures. I will personally point and laugh at you for doing so.
Now...if you decide to go ranged, this conversation is done...but I will continue to point and laugh.
And yes, take 13pts in HW for the double-dip Dex damage. (43T/24DWS/13HW)
 
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Teh_Troll

Teh_Troll

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Dandonk said:
Horizon Walker tier 3: No Step Missed trance. Is my guess.
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Yup

TLDR: A STR Tempest with achievable stats at end game can out DPS a DEX Tempest. This assumes Knights Training Weapons versus Scimitars.

So STR does more damage than DEX . . . by about 1.5%.

1.5% . . . and it's more difficult to gear for and you have to stretch your stat point more.

Go DEX.

I'm an idiot, I'm still STR.
 
Stratiotis

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Mindos said:
How high does your rangers dex have to be to get 100 percent?

What is this, explain like I'm a small child please.
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Referred to as a battle trance; 2 minute active clickie. Several trees have them for various ability stats.
No Missed Step: Battle Trance. Cooldown: 20 Seconds. Antirequisite: Other Trances. Charges: 5. Expend 1 Charge: You gain an Insight bonus to damage and the DC of tactical feats equal to 1/2 of your Dexterity modifier for [30/60/120] seconds. On a Vorpal weapon hit, have a chance to restore 1 Charge.
Other trances include INT, STR, CHA, WIS...above is the DEX version.
In lesser words: Bigger DEX = Bigger whackums
 
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